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    Post  Scorpius Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:30 am

    https://t.me/margaritasimonyan/13854

    https://t.me/srochnow/55065

    video of the initial interrogation. Briefly: a certain "helper of the righteous" contacted via telegram, who offered money for killing people.

    This is not typical for ISIS - they recruit based on ideological beliefs.

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    Post  sepheronx Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:31 am

    Sorry Eugenio, had to place you on ignore list as your posts is just flooding the thread.  You mean well but it is annoying.  Not nearly as bad though as Karl's crap.

    I remember the dickhead Russian who owned Telegram refused to give keys to Russian government in the past to telegram posters, but gave it no problem to Germany under Merkel. Wonder if now they will comply otherwise be subjected to prison for assisting terrorism?

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    Post  LMFS Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:40 am

    sepheronx wrote:But I wouldn't doubt Ukraine uses these men to do such attacks.

    Ukraine means the West, means every nutcase out there could be used, depending on the circumstances.

    All this done in hopes of getting Putin out of his mind and do something stupid, which he never did, despite much worse terror attacks? Or just as a present for wining the elections with almost a 90% of the votes? Anglos are getting increasingly clumsy, even at their core competence as patrons of international terrorism...

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    Post  Isos Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:41 am

    It's hard to believe anyone would do such attrocity for money knowing he is a dead man after such attacks.

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    Post  sepheronx Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:42 am

    Their biggest mistake was claiming it was ISIS right off the bat.  It then opened a lot of questions against US.  Then Ukraine trying to claim its a provocation masterminded by Putin to pin blame on Ukraine.

    They opened their big mouths too quickly and now have stumbled on their own lie.

    They will never admit it mind you. And the liberal filth of western countries will believe it of course.

    Isos wrote:It's hard to believe anyone would do such attrocity for money knowing he is a dead man after such attacks.

    Tajiks aren't known for their grand intelligence.


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    Post  Karl Haushofer Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:43 am

    sepheronx wrote:Terrorist said that they were hired via telegram and was offered a million rubles to do this attack.

    Who did the hiring?
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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:46 am

    Scorpius wrote:https://t.me/margaritasimonyan/13854

    https://t.me/srochnow/55065

    video of the initial interrogation. Briefly: a certain "helper of the righteous" contacted via telegram, who offered money for killing people.

    This is not typical for ISIS - they recruit based on ideological beliefs.

    Shariy points fingers at Zelensky and Budanov.

    The suicide bombing of the Crimean bridge was a similarly devious operation that Ukraine initially denied, only to admit to it much later. Just saying.


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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:49 am

    Apparently, all the terrorists involved in the attack were detained alive.
    And furthermore, they are making statements immediately.
    In a few hours, we will be able to have reliable information about the ideologues of this attack.

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:50 am

    A FRENCH car, the same one! as the one they arrived in. So maybe not organised enough to split into two groups or have a different getaway car. Doing it on the cheap.

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    The special forces officers worked clearly and competently with the car, firing at the wheels in order to take terrorists alive.

    These were not fanatics, but professional terrorists; they did not intend to commit suicide.

    They knew the route, where to go, where to run, where to hide and where they were supposed to be met.

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    This is very unusual. By the roadside at the site of capture with many filming it (with caring SF putting the prisoner on a board so protected from wet ground).

    So a very open interview technique, avoids the West saying any words were extracted under torture.



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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:53 am

    The main thing is that the American authorities do not forget how their information and political environment linked the terrorists who shot people in Crocus City Hall with the banned terrorist organization ISIS, Russian FM spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said.

    Now we know in which country these bloody bastards planned to hide from persecution - Ukraine, Zakharova added.

    The same country that, through the hands of Western liberal regimes, for ten years was turned into the center of the spread of terrorism in Europe, surpassing even Kosovo in extremist frenzy, the spokeswoman said.


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    Post  JohninMK Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:00 am

    Probably had to refuel on the way.

    Looks like the 3 that did a runner may have 'run into trees' during capture. With the one who didn't being the one being interviewed by all those people at the site. Who are they, how were they there at the right place and time? Other road users?

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    The State Traffic Inspectorate of the Bryansk Region reported a restriction of traffic on a section of the M-3 "Ukraine" highway in the Bryansk Region

    Russian media write that the Renault of the terrorists was discovered near the village of Khatsun, Karachinsky district, Bryansk region.  The car did not stop when requested and tried to escape.  During the shooting arrest, the car overturned.  One terrorist was detained on the spot, the rest fled.  A second suspect was arrested later that night.

    The border with Ukraine is about 100 kilometers from this place.

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    The car they were using (white Renault Symbol) was bought for cash on January 4, 2024.


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    Post  JohninMK Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:02 am

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    An ambulance doctor discovered an explosive device on one of the corpses after the terrorist attack in Crocus - source 112.

    A device similar to a medical heart monitor fell out from under the clothes of one of the deceased when the body was carried into the hall for examination and identification. The doctor immediately noticed that the device looked strange and was installed incorrectly. The bomb was wrapped in tape, and a belt filled with something was wrapped around the deceased's torso.

    The security forces created a safe zone and called in sappers. They determined that it was an explosive device.

    The IED was taken. The identity of the deceased is being established. It is possible that it was one of the terrorists.



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    Post  Karl Haushofer Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:02 am

    The most frustrating thing about this terrorist attack is that the planners and financiers in Ukraine and West will never be punished.

    Over 100 Russians died for nothing.

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:06 am

    Karl Haushofer wrote:The most frustrating thing about this terrorist attack is that the planners and financiers in Ukraine and West will never be punished.

    Over 100 Russians died for nothing.
    How are you so sure of that?
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    Post  Karl Haushofer Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:09 am

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:
    Karl Haushofer wrote:The most frustrating thing about this terrorist attack is that the planners and financiers in Ukraine and West will never be punished.

    Over 100 Russians died for nothing.
    How are you so sure of that?

    I hope Russia proves me wrong. But their track record is horrible in these kind of matters.

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:24 am

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    Based on warnings from the US and Britain, terrorists were initially preparing to attack spectators at the Shaman concert, which took place at Crocus on March 9. This coincides with the dates given by the US and UK embassies. But for some reason, they were unable to do this at that moment.

    Meanwhile Shaman has come forward with an offer

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:29 am

    Looks like they captured

    ◽Makhmadrasul Nasridinov, 37 yo
    ◽Rivozhidin Ismonov, 51 yo
    ◽Shokhinjonn Safolzoda, 21 yo
    ◽Rustam Nazarov, 29 yo

    And have caught number 5 in the woods

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:41 am

    This is a brilliant strategy by Russia, no torture and confessions on the spot in public. Just imagine what would have happened in the West, no-one allowed within 50m.


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    ⚡During interrogation, the terrorist stated that he was promised 500 thousand rubles for participating in the terrorist attack and was given 250 in advance. Some anonymous people found the Tajik through social networks, who quite easily recruited the militant. The criminal was shaking with fear because he could not escape.

    Interestingly, one of the scoundrels, 19-year-old Muhammadsobir Fayzov (the one with the eye gouged out during arrest), worked in a barbershop and went to an ethnic MMA club.

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    Post  kvs Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:55 am

    Even if this was an ISIS terror attack, it is still managed by NATzO. ISIS is a total condom for the US and its minions. Why ISIS and not some Central Asian
    Islamic group? ISIS waited a few years to "revenge" for its ass whooping in Syria? GTFO. They would have been staging such attacks inside Russia as often and as
    soon as they could. Clearly it is very easy since they can hire the terrorists via social media (not really). That ISIS did not stage such attacks is more evidence that
    it is a tool of NATzO.

    This was an organized operation conducted by NATzO and using its Ukr proxies.

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    Post  Karl Haushofer Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:07 am

    Lots and lots of jeering and gloating over in Twitter, like this one: https://twitter.com/RealAndyMerc/status/1771248256040747383
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    Post  Karl Haushofer Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:08 am

    kvs wrote:Even if this was an ISIS terror attack, it is still managed by NATzO.   ISIS is a total condom for the US and its minions.   Why ISIS and not some Central Asian
    Islamic group?   ISIS waited a few years to "revenge" for its ass whooping in Syria?   GTFO.   They would have been staging such attacks inside Russia as often and as
    soon as they could.   Clearly it is very easy since they can hire the terrorists via social media (not really).   That ISIS did not stage such attacks is more evidence that
    it is a tool of NATzO.  

    This was an organized operation conducted by NATzO and using its Ukr proxies.  

    That is correct. And what should the Russia do as a retaliation?

    I know what you will say. Russia should not "take the bait" but continue its special military operation as before.

    But let's say there is another terrorist attack like this in Russia. And then another. And one more. Dozens more. Hundreds more.

    Is there a red line for Russia at all when Russia will actually take an eye for an eye?

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    Post  Karl Haushofer Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:20 am

    I have said it before and will say it again: at some point Russia MUST directly hit the West. Russia has taken too many direct hits from the West so far without throwing one hit back in response.

    The sooner it happens the better for Russia - and for the West.

    The longer Russia delays the more West will escalate and the more dangerous the situation gets.

    And if Russia chooses not to hit back, then Russia will be destroyed and the West wins a total victory.

    Wars of god never forgive a sin of not standing up for himself. Loser countries are destined to fall off the map.

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    Post  Tolstoy Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:28 am

    Isos wrote:With all 4 arrested and everything foubd on them, it will be easy to really figure out who they are working for.
    The attackers are Muslims from Tajikistan, but this clearly is an attack organized by the U.S.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:34 am

    LIVE NOW: Putin's address regarding the terrorist attack in Crocus City Hall in Moscow

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:37 am

    Putin is speaking to Russia:


    The 4 attackers were arrested while moving towards Ukraine, and we have intelligence that suggests they were about to be received on the territory of Ukraine

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