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    Crocus City Hall terrorist attack

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    Post  higurashihougi Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:51 am

    https://www.rt.com/russia/595446-new-evidence-moscow-concert-massacre/

    Pro-Ukraine images found on cellphones of Moscow terror attacks suspects – investigators
    New evidence suggests a possible link between the conflict and the Crocus City Hall massacre, officials have said


    In an update on the case, Russia’s Investigative Committee (IC) said that images related to the Ukraine conflict were found on the cell phone of one of the terrorists. They include photos of Ukrainian soldiers and a photo of a man wrapped in the Ukrainian flag standing in front of a destroyed building. An image of a soldier standing on a tank and holding the Ukrainian flag contains the caption “The Special Operations Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.”

    “This data may suggest a connection between the terrorist attack and the [Ukraine] special military operation,” IC spokeswoman Svetlana Petrenko said. She added that investigators are checking whether “Ukrainian security services and international Islamist terrorist groups” were involved in the planning and funding of the concert hall massacre.

    Petrenko added that, on the morning of February 24, 2024, one of the suspects sent “his handler” photos of the entrances to the Crocus City Hall and of nearby roads. She noted that the date coincides with the start of Russia’s operation in Ukraine, which began on February 24, 2022.

    The IC previously said that it had found evidence of suspects receiving money and cryptocurrency from Ukraine.

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    Post  kvs Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:12 pm

    We'll have all the usual NATzO clowns engaged in tin foil hat dismissals of this evidence, but it is rather obvious considering these terrorists spent time
    in Ukria working with the Kiev regime military. These symbols would have been thrown at them by their Ukr colleagues and pollute their cell phones.

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    Post  GarryB Sun Apr 07, 2024 4:22 am

    We know that the Ukraine is where they were running to and that is where they were going to get paid... and if the Ukraine was not involved at all it is likely the last direction any real criminal would head for because during a war with cross border raids by one side the border security is going to be rather high.

    I suspect they likely told the terrorists to run to the Ukraine and hope the Russians just shot them so they didn't have to pay them, but that if they didn't get killed by the Russians that they would kill them themselves to save the money and hide all evidence.

    The last thing they wanted would be for the Russians to capture them alive... but as usual western and Zelenskys master plan goes tits up... and they would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for those meddling kids....

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    Post  higurashihougi Mon Apr 08, 2024 9:42 am

    https://www.rt.com/russia/595563-crocus-suspect-ukraine-route/

    FSB reveals Crocus City attackers’ plan to escape to Ukraine
    The suspects behind the Moscow concert hall massacre said they were promised money in Kiev


    In interrogation videos aired on Russian TV at the weekend, the suspects said they were following instructions from a handler they knew as ‘Sayfullo’. The authorities are currently working to determine his identity.

    The handler told the suspects to escape to Ukraine, where they expected to receive 1 million rubles each ($11,000), they added.

    “Sayfullo told us that guys would wait for us at the Ukrainian border and that they would help us to cross the border and arrive in Kiev,” suspect Muhammadsobir Fayzov told his interrogator.

    According to investigators, the suspects took the M3 highway that leads to the border with Ukraine, but were eventually intercepted about 140km (87 miles) from Ukraine’s Sumy Region.

    Suspect Shamsidin Fariduni said they had been told to “abandon the car near the border” and then call their handler for further instructions on how to cross into Ukraine.

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    Post  higurashihougi Tue Apr 09, 2024 4:44 pm

    https://www.rt.com/russia/595652-hunter-biden-burisma-terrorist-attack/

    Hunter Biden-linked Ukrainian company used for terror attacks in Russia – Moscow
    Multiple entities, including Burisma Holdings, have been involved in funding terrorism, Russian investigators are claiming


    The list of suspects includes the Ukrainian industrial conglomerate Burisma Holdings, linked to a corruption scandal surrounding the Biden family that has been dragging on for years.

    So far, investigators have “established that the funds, flowing through commercial organizations, including the oil and gas conglomerate Burisma Holdings, operating in Ukraine, have been used in recent years to carry out terrorist attacks in Russia,” committee spokeswoman Svetlana Petrenko said. Terrorist activities have also reached beyond the country, aimed at the “elimination of prominent political and public figures, as well as causing economic damage,” she added.

    The committee’s specialists have been working “in cooperation with other intelligence services and financial intelligence,” Petrenko noted. The scrutiny currently revolves around “checking sources of income and further movement of funds in the amount of several million US dollars,” and examining the potential involvement of “specific individuals from among government officials, people with civic and commercial organizations of Western countries,” the spokeswoman stated.

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    Post  flamming_python Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:59 am

    higurashihougi wrote:A honest question here:

    - Are Taijik immigrant communities, regardless of gender, age, occupation, identity, facing increased discrimination and marginalization these days due to the event that these terrorists and murderers are identified as Tajik ?

    Hard to say

    From my experience, I don't see anyone on the street blaming them and the ones I see look to be living the same as they always were

    But there is definitely an increase in nationalist propaganda on YouTube, as well as government efforts to curb immigration from Central Asia after the attack. In general, government rhetoric and policies have been getting more hostile towards migrants over the past couple of years, along with the attitude of the wider Russian public to migration from Central Asia. Although with the caveat that Putin is stepping out somewhat in the defense of immigration and recent immigrants, while some local governors and some officials are targeting them in rhetoric. To what extent this is either co-ordinated as part of some political ploy, or is on the contrary a display of government dysfunction - is something I haven't been able to figure out

    Russia is desperately short of labour even with the migrants we have, and if start losing workforce then unemployment will bottom out and we'll be left with rapidly rising inflation and an overheating of the economy. Putin and his economics team are all acutely aware of this. Yet at the same time populist anti-migrant policies are being introduced that only make this outcome more likely. It might be the case that their hands are tied by not being willing to confront such social forces, instead appeasing them - even if it's harmful for the long-term. We had those rumours of North Korean workers circulating last year but nothing so far has come of that either, to my knowledge. Perhaps for the same reasons.

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