Mig-1.44 is for the trash bin. It was developed with old tools, old tech and 30 years ago.
It is very funny you say this Lsos... what aircraft is France flying at the moment?
Some brand new super fighter?
Something made with old tools and old tech and isn't even 5th gen.
But you still claim it is the best fighter there is...
Like the french say, Mig needs to remove its fingers from its ass and start working.
MiG have been working harder than the French and have developed quite a range of different aircraft for their military, some of which have been rejected for various reasons and others have been purchased in very small numbers for testing to decide how to proceed.
France would need to remove their heads from their arses if they want to also get their fingers free, but there is plenty of room and they seem to like shoving things up there.
I am sure the muslims who are friends with Charlie Hebdo will be pleased at French official comments about war being war and civilians are fair game when defending yourself from an "attack".
It's not by adding some fancy things to their 40 years old airframes that they will survive.
What with putting the F-15 and F-16 back into production perhaps you should be directing that to the US?
Sukhoi does the things right.
Sukhoi was lucky to have a product in a niche market that could be cheap because it is Russian but also be a big capable fighter. The Indians did their best to make it horribly expensive by adding French and Israeli components that tripled the price, but the basic aircraft is no more amazing than the MiG-29s airframe... it is just larger and with more weapon and fuel capacity and a bigger radar... otherwise it is almost exactly the same.
A big 5th gen twin engine isn't needed since they put everything in the su-57.
They are not making a big 5th gen twin jet fighter, they are making a small 5th gen twin engined fighter.
Think about the F-35 and then think about the Chinese copy of that aircraft but fitted with two smaller engines instead of one very big engine.
The Chinese solution is actually better because those smaller lighter engines are a fraction of the price to buy and operate to that big white elephant on the F-35... the damn thing costs 30 million fucking dollars... that is the engine alone. Ridiculous.
A cheap single engine is what they need, specially for export and increase the numbers in the russian air force because the su-57 isn't gonna fill the needs in terms of numbers.
They designed single engined cheap fighters at the same time they offered the MiG-29 design in the 1970s and it was rejected in favour of the MiG-29.
The navy is very unlikely to accept a single engined aircraft for use on their carriers... they make what the customer wants so if they are making a twin engined carrier based plane to replace the MiG-29K then you can be sure that was a requirement from the Russian Navy.
Naval variant aren't needed.
The naval model is required because the land based equivalent is probably going to be a very light single engined fighter.
You have seen the models... I posted them multiple times.
Even if a ne carrier is statted it will take 12-20 years before being ready so enough time to navalise any fighter.
Except the light land based fighter is likely to be a single engined fighter which would not be acceptable to the Russian Navy.
Whether you agree with me that a new MiG single engined fighter is being developed or you think Sukhois checkmate will be adopted... both designs are single engined which would make them unsuitable for carrier use.
How is Plasma stealth "Old tech". Many have tried it and only ended up with lab demonstrators and no functional examples on an airplane. Only the Mig 1.44 achieved that.
It is highly likely they developed all sorts of new technologies for their aircraft that would be lost if these types were just written off.
The Russian Airforce doesn't want single engined fighters 1st of all. Its against their whole doctrine. 2ndly, Export deals are the last thing on Russia's mind
I completely agree. The Russian AF has said that Checkmate is not an official programme that they are involved with, but later on it might be looked at if other solutions don't pan out. The official word as I understand it is that now the Su-57 is in serial production, funding and support for the light 5th gen fighter will be supplied to MiG to create a numbers aircraft that is sophisticated and modern and capable, but not an Su-57 replacement obviously.
Something that will work together with Su-57s and S-70 drones and other platforms on various missions and also conduct missions on their own. They will be capable of carrying the full range of air to ground and air to air weapons and be light and cheap and affordable to operate in significant numbers.
MiG has two light fighter designs, one looks like a stealthy LIFT, which everyone seems to object to despite suggestions that a Yak-130 could do the job instead.
I have pointed out that a LIFT is designed as a trainer so adding all the systems needed to make it a useful combat aircraft would bring the cost up to probably more than a MiG-29M would cost and would likely not be much cheaper to operate and have less growth potential.
An aircraft designed from the outset to actually be very small but not as a trainer... as a fighter with a light payload and a relatively short range, but with stealth and excellent sensors and equipment would be a good thing but Sukhoi don't make it so you are not interested.
I rather suspect MiG will develop the single and twin engined models and let the Russian AF decide... they did it with the MiG-29.
Even the Americans did it with the USAF choosing the F-16 and the USN picking the F-18...
Well the F-35 lobby is super powerful so their F-18s are being replaced by F-35s... we will see how that goes.
Some of Russia's older customers are now warming up to US hardware as well. This is India, Egypt, Vietnam and a few others. It is frankly stupid to have export deals in mind when building such things.
To be fair most of the American shit being bought was largely because the Russians currently have lots of gaps that the Americans filled in the Indian market with Apaches and C-17s at a time when the Russian aircraft were not really combat proven or could even be made in the volumes required... Klimov were still trying to make replacement engines in volumes big enough to make new aircraft and also support existing types, and the Il-476 has not been fast in arriving and gaps are forming in the An-12 and An-26 categories. The Ka-226 had a French engine too.
Export potential is not a consideration for the Russian military, but for the Russian MIC it is where they make real money instead of the 4-5% they make from government contracts.
Whoever likes it will come and ask to buy it and whoever doesn't is insignificant to Russia.
Promotion is important because many countries are quite frankly ignorant about Russian weapons and systems and were probably surprised at how their armour and artillery and aircraft and systems and equipment has performed in Syria and the Ukraine.
And it is cheaper too.
There is a reason Turkey and India and China all bought S-400 SAMs. There are good reasons why China and India bought Flankers.
Russia benefits little from arms exports which barely make up $40 Bn in revenue for Russia.
The state does not earn much from such contracts, but the money pumped in to the Russian MIC is very important, and also leads to cooperation with the MIC of other countries which further improves things. Cooperation with the UAE led to the Pantsir going from 20km target engagement range to over 40km and lots of other innovations... not just UAE demands, but the extra funding to implement ideas instead of just showing mockups at arms shows for 20 years.
And most of Russia's potential customers get threatened by the US and leave to buy US weapons instead.. Its best to quit that game and focus on advancing Russian tech beyond the ideas of any western state.
Not at all. The fact that the US is openly and directly threatening to damage the economies of countries that trade with Russia show how threatened they are, and how useless their overpriced products really are. They can't play on an even playing field so they try to impose new rules and some countries are bitches and comply, but many others will not, like Turkey and India and China. And over time as BRICS expands and trade gathers momentum more and more countries will be able to say no to the US.
The Su57 can and will fill the need in terms of numbers. Dont know why you think that. The Su57 for export costs around $80 million but for Russia its almost less than half of that..Russia can definitely afford 100s if not 1000s of them. The tooling to pump them out isnt there yet which is why you get the delays..
I don't agree, I think the Su-57 is a very cheap aircraft considering what it is, but its operational costs wont be cheap compared with a lighter simpler aircraft to operate with it. The MiG-35 is not a lot cheaper than an Su-35 but it is rather cheaper to operate which is where it makes sense. There are locations you can base them where they don't need to fly 2,000km because the targets they are protecting are nearby... that means they get there sooner and wont wander off and not be there when you need them. They are different vehicles suited to different roles.