...and are they rolling off the production line? I think the Yak-152 won that competition for a basic trainer?
The talk was just talk, just like they didn't adopt the SR-10 as a basic jet trainer either, but the fact remains the Yak-130 is too expensive for what it is.
Maybe it is because they haven't used Yaks in a while and it has become a boutique organisation kept alive with its LIFT programme...
If some people here get their wish the same might happen to MiG and the MiG-41 might get horribly expensive too.
I have not seen any advance trainer with thrust vectoring - have you?
Well it is really only Russia that has fighters with thrust vectoring engines as an option as standard so that really isn't surprising.
However most advanced trainers claim to be able to simulate the latest gen fighters and they do it pretty well...as advanced trainers.
Simulate... not replicate.
The thing is that the Su-35 and presumably new upgraded Su-30s have TVC and the MiG-35 was supposed to have that too so I would say it would be standard on modern Russian 4++ and 5th gen fighters moving forward which would make thrust vectoring flight an important part of flight training moving forward.
Note their LIFTs are not supersonic capable but you don't really need to train for that.
I would say a Yak-130 with TVC engines might actually be interesting as a light fighter... but then that model of the new MiG light 5th gen fighter could be the basis of a new light fighter and also a new LIFT too.
As I've said the S-37 was an experimental aircraft and the forward swept wings was there for science. It proved to be extremely effective in high G maneuvers.
But not stealthy and it was never going to be stealthy because forward swept wings reflect radar forward while rear swept wings redirect radar sideways...
They used the S-37 to test a few different technologies including forward swept wings which were not much use for a stealth fighter but might have been useful for something else.
why would Mig build a prototype 5th gen stealth fighter technology demonstrator and then actually build one with nearly zero stealth features?
Why do western "experts" admit the current Su-57 is stealthy when they claimed the flying prototypes were not. Even the S-70 had a non stealthy engine nozzle which will be changed in the service model. The flying prototype was to test aerodynamics and flight performance and other things related to flight and manufacture. The stealthy model was supposed to be kept secret but was designed to be stealthy.
You keep it a secret in a hanger until you reveal the prototype. Clearly they lacked the expertise at that stage.
Lacking expertise presumes there was no hangar prototype that was stealthy because they couldn't manage it.
Prototypes are hand made and I would argue that most countries can make a stealth prototype... mass production in a factory built to tolerances that maintain stealthy performance is another matter of course... do you think Sukhois factories just went from Su-35s to Su-57s without any problems or issues at all?
"...those canards"? You must be joking
The priority for Russian 5th gen fighters was to be able to fight and be stealthy second.
Who is to say what those canards are made of... they could be radar transparent for all we know.
Fact is - NONE of these Mig aircraft ever made it into production for the VVS (6 Mig-35's just don't cut it). On the other hand the Yak-130, the Su-35 and the Su-57 did.
And the VVS never makes bad choices?
The MiG-AT is a better trainer aircraft than the Yak-130... when discussing putting the MiG into production it was admitted as such... the costs of the Yak-130 are like that of a light fighter like a MiG-29SMT but it is no fighter and making it a useful light fighter would make it cost rather more without reaching the cost performance of the MiG-35.
The Su-35 makes sense and so does the Su-57 but Russia can't really afford an all Su-35 and Su-57 fleet... they are just too expensive and cost too much to operate to have them in useful numbers to protect the entire country.
Sukhoi admit that themselves when they talk about Su-75s and their low purchase price and low operational costs... but of course they want to sell aircraft.
Mig-29K for Indian Navy and Russian Navy weren't bad at all.
And the reason the Russian Navy wanted MiG-29Ks was because it was a numbers aircraft. With Su-33s, perhaps upgraded to Su-35s they wont be able to carry as many aircraft as they could if they had both Flankers and MiGs and numbers are important too.
MiG-29 was fantastic as a light fighter but has taken a rather back seat since sukhoi got the financing.
It think it is more about poltics... Sukhoi people secured high up jobs where they get to make decisions for government and they prefer Flankers.
Quite old, but good video explaining Russian doomers
And his comparison of Russians thinking government will screw things up and Americans thinking they can do no wrong because they are the good guys... is about right and about what most pro west people think... Russians are realists and pessimists, which makes them frustrating at times, because pessimists miss opportunities because they expect to fail or lose. A bit like lacking confidence and not going for a better job.
There was a YT video for HT saying Biden is not telling Zelensky to talk peace.
The amusing thing is that they probably think Putin will accept things the way they are now, but I think they have a shock coming....