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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sun Oct 08, 2023 9:36 pm

    Analysis by pro Russian TG Channel Military Chronicle:

    What oddities accompany the Hamas attack on Israel:

    Each circumstance is important both individually and as part of a complex of issues related to the Israeli security system.

    Oddity No. 1 - Israel did not know about the preparations for the attack.

    Gaza is a narrow piece of land with an area of 365 square meters. km. It was believed that it was bugged and monitored far and wide by the Israeli army and intelligence services, but during the attack it turned out that this was not the case. Presumably, Hamas developed a system for coordination and communication that excluded electronic contacts, and somehow the Palestinians managed to hide everything from Israeli intelligence.

    Oddity No. 2 - Israel was unable to prevent the attack.

    Shortly before the attack on checkpoints and major cities on October 7, Hamas organizedly deployed MLRS, ground forces, paragliders and other equipment to positions. The preparations and first steps went unnoticed, and the preemptive strike was not launched.

    Oddity No. 3 - the alarm system at the border did not work.

    The electronic systems at the border, which Israel had invested billions of dollars in building and equipping, were rendered useless. Numerous cameras and sensors also did not help detect and stop the Palestinian attack, as well as combat patrols, which for some reason simply were not nearby. Palestinian drones were able to easily hit automatic machine guns and sensor towers, and Hamas assault teams calmly blew up the fence and crossed the border. Nobody is trying to attack them. Due to the failure of the alarm, hundreds of IDF soldiers were killed in the camps, in the barracks, and while sleeping.

    Oddity #4: Hamas tactics.

    Contrary to popular belief, the Palestinians did not bypass IDF fortifications and bases. They aggressively stormed both checkpoints and bases where armored vehicles were located. At the same time, Hamas stopped using tanks - apparently due to the low qualifications of the attackers or lack of need. It is still unclear where the sentries, security guards on duty and cover forces were located at that time.

    Oddity No. 5 - the readiness of military equipment.

    The Israeli Merkava Mk.4 tank, destroyed by a copter drop, was hit in one of the most unprotected areas - from above. At the same time, the Trophy active protection complex was apparently disabled. The footage of the destruction of the tank and the capture of the crew clearly shows that the vehicle’s gun is covered. This suggests that the crew did not prepare the vehicle for battle and was counting only on intimidation, which is not only a gross violation of the instructions, but also simply stupid in such an attack.

    Oddity No. 6 - panic in border cities.

    All communities, especially when it comes to a region like the Gaza Strip, must have plans in place in the event of an escalation of conflict. However, no organized warning or evacuation was carried out. Local security forces turned out to be so few in number and poorly armed that they were quickly eliminated by the Palestinians.

    Oddity No. 7 is the difference in coordination between the IDF and Hamas.

    Until approximately noon on October 7, the Israeli government showed virtually no response to the fighting. In the country it is Saturday morning, Shabbat. Only at 14-15 hours did the security forces begin to gather reservists and organize retaliatory raids. However, the death of the commander of the Nahal infantry brigade, Jonathan Steinberg, indicates a hasty reaction with the forces that were somehow able to be assembled immediately. Apparently, Nahal’s intervention in the battles against Hamas was initiated by the brigade commander and was not the result of a direct order from the General Staff.

    At the same time, in the next two days, the IDF will presumably begin a military operation inside the neighborhoods of the Gaza Strip. However, actions in open areas and in residential areas are different. An attempt by Israeli ground forces to enter the Palestinian enclave will almost certainly be accompanied by a large death toll on both sides.

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    Post  Hole Sun Oct 08, 2023 9:52 pm

    obviously not used to fighting an enemy of similar capabilities and receiving drone attacks in response.
    A bunch of Lancets would create a cool video full of huge fireballs.

    They reached the capital WTF
    Can someone send them the address of Nazinyahoo? Very Happy

    Men, I really, really don't get this obsession towards humiliating the dead bodies of your opponents.
    Yes, you shouldn´t do something like that, but I can understand them. Those people lost countless relatives and
    friends in the past years. Their rage level must be close to that of the russian soldiers at the end of the GPW.

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    Post  nomadski Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:06 pm




    The US sending navy group ? Good ! How easy it is to divide and disperse their forces . Does the Lebanese Hezbollah have anti- ship cruise missiles ? But they do have drones . Shame to pollute the Med , but we can not afford to be environmentalists at a time like this ! Soon like the Polish , they will say " ...we would rather arm ourselves with modern weapons than Ukraine ( Israel ) ! ",

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:13 pm

    Reports of a successful airdrop operation carried out by Al-Qassam Brigades on the Tsalim military base in Beersheba, 40 km from the Gaza border, near the Dimona nuclear reactor.

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    Post  Backman Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:14 pm

    This just shows once again that a lot can be accomplished with suicidal infantry. Regardless how high tech or advantaged you are, a man with a gun that isn't afraid to die or has been brainwashed into thinking he can win are the most valuable pieces on the battlefield.

    How many men does Hamas have ? They could probably keep this up for longer than anyone expects IF they have men in numbers.

    Israel's performance made Russia's reaction to its border incursions look expert in comparison. There was even a friendly fire incident with casualties. Israel could use some of Russia's weapons right now. I bet some Jewish Russians will lend a hand.


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    Post  littlerabbit Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:14 pm

    ALAMO wrote:
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    Man, they're doing shit to the Israelis soldiers. Check this out
    https://t.me/geromanat/11810

    The only thing they can achieve by linking this kind of shit is to enlight people that HAMAS is a bunch of goatfuckers with a tribal mentality.
    Men, I really, really don't get this obsession towards humiliating the dead bodies of your opponents.
    What is the goal, seriously? dunno
    Russkie are collecting them all, even decomposed ones.
    Even watching the comments of regular soldiers, you can hear them being rather feeling sorrow for the senseless death rather than cheering it.
    I really hope that the materials showing massed female POW are here because someone there is wise enough to play the music that the world public opinion will swallow.
    Saving and taking care of them will do much better than showing the humiliated body of a 19 y/o female conscript.

    I believe it's all about hate and dehumanisation of each other. They can't live together or next to each other, they are adressing the opposite side as animals or insects, low living form. They are trying hard to offend and humiliate even their dead. Israelis are urinating over dead Arabs, Arabs are hitting and stepping on dead Israelis. No reconciliation here, ever. Sorry to say this, but that's how I see this...so sad. No

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    Post  nomadski Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:29 pm

    Backman wrote:I bet some Jewish Russians will lend a hand.


    There are no Russian Jews in Israel . Only Zionists . As there are no Iranian Jews in Israel . Only Zionists . Russian and Iranian Jews , live in Russia and Iran , respectively .

    Zionists have no future . Israel has no future . That's why it's existence in history , is hardly marked . Jews were meant to be a people , but not a nation ............geography !

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    Post  nomadski Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:49 pm


    Supposing the European Jews , were never forced out of Europe after WW2 . Then suppose the present borders of today's Israel , but with majority Arab population . Then similar problems arise , towards some other minority or threats would arise externally by outside powers , that see this little land as an obstacle . The Balkans and Caucasus , have similar fractured , mini-state formations . These are geographic choke- points . The only way statelets could survive in these regions , is with the wisdom of Soleyman !
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    Post  par far Mon Oct 09, 2023 1:02 am

    Would everyone agree that is a inside attack or an false attack? it maybe to widen the war in the Middle East.

    I find it hard that some small group could do this.

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    Post  nomadski Mon Oct 09, 2023 1:22 am

    What you mean that Israelis participated in / or organised the attacks against own people to unify country by right wing rule by expansion of war in ME ? You see in the real world , people can not plan too far ahead . There is always the law of unintended consequences . If you take step " A" , then best to hope for is outcome " B. " you can not take step " A, " And hope for outcome " Z . " No planner works in this way .


    If you look at tactics by Hamas , it is clearly similar to Iranian tactics in use of light infantry ,use of double and triple mounted riders on motorcycles , with captive held in the middle . Motorised gliders as in Baseej forces . So they had minimal training and equipment and numbers . Their advance is as much of an indication of their will to fight as it is the Israeli loss of morale . They are suffering from the loss in belief in the Zionism project .

    Edit : The Americans already dismissed the idea of Iranian involvement ! The Zionazi are on their own !

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    Post  Big_Gazza Mon Oct 09, 2023 1:49 am

    Sprut-B wrote:But we shouldn't slander entire Jewish people. There is a distinction between Jews and Zionists. There are many Jewish Israelis who are against the radical state policies of the Israeli govt against Palestinians. Liberal opposition actually wanted to seek dialogues with Palestine. And we should also keep in mind that some HAMAS fanatics have also killed many civilians, which is also unacceptable.

    You are no doubt correct, but those Jews who oppose Zionism and the Israeli states persecution of the Palestinians (and their own Arab citizens) are a minority and have been proven to be unable to restrain the warmongers in their ruling regime. They are therefore no different to whatever anti-war factions existed in the German public during WW2/GPW or the Ukro public in todays nazi-driven conflict.  The existance of such a minority didn't influence how either the West or East dealt with the threat of the German nazi regime, or how Russia will combat the banderites in Ukropistan, so I see no reason why Israel should be any different.  This is a vile racist militaristic colonial fake-state that openly embraces ethnic/racial superiority, a ruthless armed repression of a captive other, and a grinding apartheid that is clearly designed to marginalise the Palestinains and erase them as a culturally distinct people deserving of their own space.

    Israel is a malignant cancer on the face of the world.  It is well past time that it was excised, and I wish the Palestinians all success in their endeavours (even if Hamas are jihadist nutbags...).

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    Post  par far Mon Oct 09, 2023 1:52 am

    nomadski wrote:What you mean that Israelis participated in / or organised the attacks against own people to unify country by right wing rule by expansion of war in ME ? You see in the real world , people can not plan too far ahead . There is always the law of unintended consequences . If you take step " A" , then best to hope for is outcome " B. " you can not take step " A, " And hope for outcome " Z . " No planner works in this way .


    If you look at tactics by Hamas , it is clearly similar to Iranian tactics in use of light infantry ,use of double and triple mounted riders on motorcycles , with captive held in the middle . Motorised gliders as in Baseej forces . So they had minimal training and equipment and numbers . Their advance is as much of an indication of their will to fight as it is the Israeli loss of morale . They are suffering from the loss in belief in the Zionism project .

    Edit : The Americans already dismissed the idea of Iranian involvement ! The Zionazi are on their own !

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    I don't know why nomadski, this feels like an inside attack and a prelude to some bigger war. The Americans are double faced bitches, they change, every second.
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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Mon Oct 09, 2023 1:53 am

    The Situation in: #Gaza #Israel

    1) Hamas say they have targeted Ben Gurion airport in Israel, Al Jazeera Arabic reported

    2) Spokesman for Hamas’ Izzideen al-Qassam Brigades, announced that even more Israelis have been captured today and are being held hostage

    3) Hamas said that the US’ plan to provide increased military aid to Israel amounts to “aggression” against Palestinians, after Washington ordered navy ships and warplanes closer to Israel

    4) The UAE condemned the Hamas movement for its “serious and grave escalation”

    5) Major US airline, United Airlines, said Tel Aviv flights will remain suspended until conditions allow them to resume, according to Reuters

    6) Israeli forces killed a fourth Palestinian in the occupied West Bank, according to the Palestinian ministry of health

    7) The Palestinian Authority’s UN envoy warned the international community against reiterations underlining Israel’s “right to self-defence”, as such messaging “will be interpreted by Israel as [a] licence to kill”

    Cool A spokesperson for the military wing of the Palestinian Jihad appeared on a televised speech, saying that Palestinians are “closer than ever to freedom than we have ever been before”

    9) The British government has asked that all UK government buildings fly the Israeli flag and use “appropriate” coloured lighting to show solidarity to Israeli victims

    10) Israel dropped 100 tons of munitions on Shujaiya neighbourhood in Gaza City, an army spokesperson said

    11) Israeli PM Netanyahu and Benny Gantz have scheduled for their respective representatives to meet tomorrow, in order to discuss the inclusion of Gantz’s National Unity party in the emergency government

    12) The Union of European Football Associations (UEFA) announced that it will be postponing the Israel and Switzerland Euro 2024 qualifier set for next week

    13) Palestinians have carried out at least 48 shooting attacks against Israeli targets in the occupied West Bank since the start of the Gaza attack on Saturday morning, according to Palestinian information centre, Moota

    14) The Islamic Jihad commander said that his group alone has 30 captives

    15) Israeli aircraft targeted homes with families in them in the Sheikh Ajilin area, south of Gaza City, according to Palestine’s Ministry of Information

    16) Israeli fighter jets have committed 8 “massacres”, wiping out entire Palestinian families at once in its continued bombardment of residential homes in Gaza, the Palestinian health ministry said

    17) A least 421 Palestinians and 700 Israelis have been killed, with thousands injured on both sides. The death toll is expected to increase on both sides

    18) Israel’s National Security Minister instructed the Firearms Licensing Division to launch an “emergency operation”, which will pave the way to allow as many eligible citizens as possible to arm themselves

    19) US President Biden told Netanyahu that additional US aid for the Israeli army “is now on its way to Israel, with more to follow over the coming days,” according to the White House.

    20) The US said it was sending the USS Gerald R Ford aircraft carrier strike group to the Eastern Mediterranean

    21) A rocket launched from Gaza hit an apartment building in the southern Israeli city of Netivot, according to Israeli media

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    Post  Odin of Ossetia Mon Oct 09, 2023 3:07 am

    Eugenio Argentina wrote:Analysis by pro Russian TG Channel Military Chronicle:

    What oddities accompany the Hamas attack on Israel:  

    Each circumstance is important both individually and as part of a complex of issues related to the Israeli security system.

    Oddity No. 1 - Israel did not know about the preparations for the attack.

    Gaza is a narrow piece of land with an area of   365 square meters. km. It was believed that it was bugged and monitored far and wide by the Israeli army and intelligence services, but during the attack it turned out that this was not the case. Presumably, Hamas developed a system for coordination and communication that excluded electronic contacts, and somehow the Palestinians managed to hide everything from Israeli intelligence.

    Oddity No. 2 - Israel was unable to prevent the attack.

    Shortly before the attack on checkpoints and major cities on October 7, Hamas organizedly deployed MLRS, ground forces, paragliders and other equipment to positions. The preparations and first steps went unnoticed, and the preemptive strike was not launched.

    Oddity No. 3 - the alarm system at the border did not work.

    The electronic systems at the border, which Israel had invested billions of dollars in building and equipping, were rendered useless. Numerous cameras and sensors also did not help detect and stop the Palestinian attack, as well as combat patrols, which for some reason simply were not nearby. Palestinian drones were able to easily hit automatic machine guns and sensor towers, and Hamas assault teams calmly blew up the fence and crossed the border. Nobody is trying to attack them. Due to the failure of the alarm, hundreds of IDF soldiers were killed in the camps, in the barracks, and while sleeping.

    Oddity #4: Hamas tactics.

    Contrary to popular belief, the Palestinians did not bypass IDF fortifications and bases. They aggressively stormed both checkpoints and bases where armored vehicles were located. At the same time, Hamas stopped using tanks - apparently due to the low qualifications of the attackers or lack of need. It is still unclear where the sentries, security guards on duty and cover forces were located at that time.

    Oddity No. 5 - the readiness of military equipment.

    The Israeli Merkava Mk.4 tank, destroyed by a copter drop, was hit in one of the most unprotected areas - from above. At the same time, the Trophy active protection complex was apparently disabled. The footage of the destruction of the tank and the capture of the crew clearly shows that the vehicle’s gun is covered. This suggests that the crew did not prepare the vehicle for battle and was counting only on intimidation, which is not only a gross violation of the instructions, but also simply stupid in such an attack.

    Oddity No. 6 - panic in border cities.

    All communities, especially when it comes to a region like the Gaza Strip, must have plans in place in the event of an escalation of conflict. However, no organized warning or evacuation was carried out. Local security forces turned out to be so few in number and poorly armed that they were quickly eliminated by the Palestinians.

    Oddity No. 7 is the difference in coordination between the IDF and Hamas.

    Until approximately noon on October 7, the Israeli government showed virtually no response to the fighting. In the country it is Saturday morning, Shabbat. Only at 14-15 hours did the security forces begin to gather reservists and organize retaliatory raids. However, the death of the commander of the Nahal infantry brigade, Jonathan Steinberg, indicates a hasty reaction with the forces that were somehow able to be assembled immediately. Apparently, Nahal’s intervention in the battles against Hamas was initiated by the brigade commander and was not the result of a direct order from the General Staff.

    At the same time, in the next two days, the IDF will presumably begin a military operation inside the neighborhoods of the Gaza Strip. However, actions in open areas and in residential areas are different. An attempt by Israeli ground forces to enter the Palestinian enclave will almost certainly be accompanied by a large death toll on both sides.

    https://twitter.com/GeromanAT/status/1711089794896261233

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    So far Israel is admitting to 57 troops killed; this number might be incomplete, but if it is then it is not incomplete by much.

    So no, no "hundreds" of troops killed.

    Some members of the border guard and police too have been killed, but I doubt it is in the hundreds.



    What we have is 260 civilians killed at a peace musical concert.

    Also, at least 10 Nepali civilian guest workers were murdered by the Palestinians.


    "Nice" job by the Palestinians, they are not going to get much respect and support from such actions.

    Israel is going out of its way to avoid civilian casualties.



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    Post  par far Mon Oct 09, 2023 3:40 am

    Odin of Ossetia wrote:
    Eugenio Argentina wrote:Analysis by pro Russian TG Channel Military Chronicle:

    What oddities accompany the Hamas attack on Israel:  

    Each circumstance is important both individually and as part of a complex of issues related to the Israeli security system.

    Oddity No. 1 - Israel did not know about the preparations for the attack.

    Gaza is a narrow piece of land with an area of   365 square meters. km. It was believed that it was bugged and monitored far and wide by the Israeli army and intelligence services, but during the attack it turned out that this was not the case. Presumably, Hamas developed a system for coordination and communication that excluded electronic contacts, and somehow the Palestinians managed to hide everything from Israeli intelligence.

    Oddity No. 2 - Israel was unable to prevent the attack.

    Shortly before the attack on checkpoints and major cities on October 7, Hamas organizedly deployed MLRS, ground forces, paragliders and other equipment to positions. The preparations and first steps went unnoticed, and the preemptive strike was not launched.

    Oddity No. 3 - the alarm system at the border did not work.

    The electronic systems at the border, which Israel had invested billions of dollars in building and equipping, were rendered useless. Numerous cameras and sensors also did not help detect and stop the Palestinian attack, as well as combat patrols, which for some reason simply were not nearby. Palestinian drones were able to easily hit automatic machine guns and sensor towers, and Hamas assault teams calmly blew up the fence and crossed the border. Nobody is trying to attack them. Due to the failure of the alarm, hundreds of IDF soldiers were killed in the camps, in the barracks, and while sleeping.

    Oddity #4: Hamas tactics.

    Contrary to popular belief, the Palestinians did not bypass IDF fortifications and bases. They aggressively stormed both checkpoints and bases where armored vehicles were located. At the same time, Hamas stopped using tanks - apparently due to the low qualifications of the attackers or lack of need. It is still unclear where the sentries, security guards on duty and cover forces were located at that time.

    Oddity No. 5 - the readiness of military equipment.

    The Israeli Merkava Mk.4 tank, destroyed by a copter drop, was hit in one of the most unprotected areas - from above. At the same time, the Trophy active protection complex was apparently disabled. The footage of the destruction of the tank and the capture of the crew clearly shows that the vehicle’s gun is covered. This suggests that the crew did not prepare the vehicle for battle and was counting only on intimidation, which is not only a gross violation of the instructions, but also simply stupid in such an attack.

    Oddity No. 6 - panic in border cities.

    All communities, especially when it comes to a region like the Gaza Strip, must have plans in place in the event of an escalation of conflict. However, no organized warning or evacuation was carried out. Local security forces turned out to be so few in number and poorly armed that they were quickly eliminated by the Palestinians.

    Oddity No. 7 is the difference in coordination between the IDF and Hamas.

    Until approximately noon on October 7, the Israeli government showed virtually no response to the fighting. In the country it is Saturday morning, Shabbat. Only at 14-15 hours did the security forces begin to gather reservists and organize retaliatory raids. However, the death of the commander of the Nahal infantry brigade, Jonathan Steinberg, indicates a hasty reaction with the forces that were somehow able to be assembled immediately. Apparently, Nahal’s intervention in the battles against Hamas was initiated by the brigade commander and was not the result of a direct order from the General Staff.

    At the same time, in the next two days, the IDF will presumably begin a military operation inside the neighborhoods of the Gaza Strip. However, actions in open areas and in residential areas are different. An attempt by Israeli ground forces to enter the Palestinian enclave will almost certainly be accompanied by a large death toll on both sides.

    https://twitter.com/GeromanAT/status/1711089794896261233

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    So far Israel is admitting to 57 troops killed; this number might be incomplete, but if it is then it is not incomplete by much.

    So no, no "hundreds" of troops killed.

    Some members of the border guard and police too have been killed, but I doubt it is in the hundreds.



    What we have is 260 civilians killed at a peace musical concert.

    Also, at least 10 Nepali civilian guest workers were murdered by the Palestinians.  


    "Nice" job by the Palestinians, they are not going to get much respect and support from such actions.

    Israel is going out of its way to avoid civilian casualties.






    Highly unlikely.
    "10) Israel dropped 100 tons of munitions on Shujaiya neighbourhood in Gaza City, an army spokesperson said"

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    Post  nomadski Mon Oct 09, 2023 3:50 am

    Par far wrote:I don't know why nomadski, this feels like an inside attack and a prelude to some bigger war. The Americans are double faced bitches, they change, every second .


    Well feelings do count for something . And if you are right , then how will this larger war , impact the region and the world ? If we are to believe published accounts , then the Americans are short of supplies and funds for the Ukronazi scum . And Europe is getting low on arms too ! The SS missiles by Britain were fresh off the production lines . No more scrap metal to shift to Ukraine . And you know , here in the UK , they have no more funds to help with winter fuel costs ! Not money to pay their doctors ! And you know the infighting in US over money and politics .

    So what happens if , there is further demand on their economy and industry ? Well it collapses ! So I hope they do make the mistake and open a second front ! It will be a strategic mistake and a win win for Asia  ! A win in Ukraine for Russia , and a win for the resistance against Israel , and China too . The Sun finally sets on the British Empire !
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    Post  Big_Gazza Mon Oct 09, 2023 4:35 am

    Odin of Ossetia wrote:Israel is going out of its way to avoid civilian casualties.

    Suspect

    Pull the other one buddy.  Only a retarded fool of the 1st order would accept that absurd BS.  Zionistans SOP has always been to conduct indiscriminate attacks on Palestinian areas as "price-tag" attacks to make ordinary people play a price for Israels embarassment at getting caught with its pants down, and to satisfy the lust of the jewish public for punishment of the brown untermensch for daring to fight back.

    Zio trash asked for it. Now they have it in spades.  No sympathy for these inhuman bastards.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Mon Oct 09, 2023 4:46 am

    par far wrote:
    nomadski wrote:What you mean that Israelis participated in / or organised the attacks against own people to unify country by right wing rule by expansion of war in ME ? You see in the real world , people can not plan too far ahead . There is always the law of unintended consequences . If you take step " A" , then best to hope for is outcome " B. " you can not take step " A, " And hope for outcome " Z . " No planner works in this way .


    If you look at tactics by Hamas , it is clearly similar to Iranian tactics in use of light infantry ,use of double and triple mounted riders on motorcycles , with captive held in the middle . Motorised gliders as in Baseej forces . So they had minimal training and equipment and numbers . Their advance is as much of an indication of their will to fight as it is the Israeli loss of morale . They are suffering from the loss in belief in the Zionism project .

    Edit : The Americans already dismissed the idea of Iranian involvement ! The Zionazi are on their own !

    Very Happy

    I don't know why nomadski, this feels like an inside attack and a prelude to some bigger war. The Americans are double faced bitches, they change, every second.

    It is possible that the initial provocation, ie the settler storming of Al-Aqsa, was intended to trigger a response from Gaza and thereby justify another routine culling of its population by the IDF, but the degree of the response by Hamas and associated militant groups was grossly underestimated.  I'm suspicious about why the Zio authorities forbid muslim worshippers under the age of 60 to access Al-Aqsa in the period leading up to the incursion. Where they simply trying to avoid violence between muslim worshippers and settlers celebrating Sukkot, or were they clearing the decks to faciliate the settler rampage?

    Experience with Ziostan policy suggests the latter IMHO.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Mon Oct 09, 2023 5:37 am

    ALAMO wrote:
    The only thing they can achieve by linking this kind of shit is to enlight people that HAMAS is a bunch of goatfuckers with a tribal mentality.
    Men, I really, really don't get this obsession towards humiliating the dead bodies of your opponents.
    What is the goal, seriously? dunno
    Russkie are collecting them all, even decomposed ones.
    Even watching the comments of regular soldiers, you can hear them being rather feeling sorrow for the senseless death rather than cheering it.
    I really hope that the materials showing massed female POW are here because someone there is wise enough to play the music that the world public opinion will swallow.
    Saving and taking care of them will do much better than showing the humiliated body of a 19 y/o female conscript.

    Didn't Ukrainians behead Russian POW, castrate them, and stick axes in their backs?

    Or is that the good old racism in Europe?

    Only Hamas are goat fuckers and tribal?

    Your Ukrainian employees don't qualify for that label?

    Laughing Laughing Laughing

    The clownery in this forum is hilarious

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    Post  Sprut-B Mon Oct 09, 2023 6:14 am

    nomadski wrote:

    There are no Russian Jews in Israel . Only Zionists . As there are no Iranian Jews in Israel . Only Zionists . Russian and Iranian Jews , live in Russia and Iran , respectively .

    Zionists have no future . Israel has no future . That's why it's existence in history , is hardly marked . Jews were meant to be a people , but not a nation ............geography !

    No

    There are some Russian draft dodgers in Israel 😅

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    Post  Sprut-B Mon Oct 09, 2023 6:20 am

    Arkanghelsk wrote:

    Didn't Ukrainians behead Russian POW, castrate them, and stick axes in their backs?

    Or is that the good old racism in Europe?

    Only Hamas are goat fuckers and tribal?

    Your Ukrainian employees don't qualify for that label?

    Laughing Laughing Laughing

    The clownery in this forum is hilarious

    Couldn't have said it better.

    By the way Zionists are no less barbaric than the Jihadi mullas. It's just that Mullahs are extremely bad at PR

    Graphic warning

    https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1711026961257267208?t=dZRr2fzM0rL9MKCIdsXquQ&s=19

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    Post  Backman Mon Oct 09, 2023 6:43 am

    par far wrote:Would everyone agree that is a inside attack or an false attack? it maybe to widen the war in the Middle East.

    I find it hard that some small group could do this.

    Could be that they let it happen but got way more than they bargained for. Netanyau has been talking about attacking Iran since 2004. And he's running out of time.

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    Post  sepheronx Mon Oct 09, 2023 6:48 am

    Sprut-B wrote:
    nomadski wrote:

    There are no Russian Jews in Israel . Only Zionists . As there are no Iranian Jews in Israel . Only Zionists . Russian and Iranian Jews , live in Russia and Iran , respectively .

    Zionists have no future . Israel has no future . That's why it's existence in history , is hardly marked . Jews were meant to be a people , but not a nation ............geography !

    No

    There are some Russian draft dodgers in Israel 😅


    No surprise here. The archs of the world all will flee any country or sell their mothers to get what they want.

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    Post  Backman Mon Oct 09, 2023 7:14 am

    It is awfully convenient atrocity porn wise, that an open air party with hundreds of people was happening in a field in southern Israel on the exact hour of the attack, within walking distance of it. The US propaganda machine loves involving women. Now there's all these pictures of these captured and killed e-thots going around.

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