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    2023 Israel–Hamas war

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sun Oct 08, 2023 3:14 pm

    I figured there was going to be trouble when I saw the report on the Moon of Alabama regarding 800 settlers storming Al-Aqsa on the Jewish holiday of Sukkot, but I never expected anything like this Shocked

    Stupid radical settlers caused this, but there is zero chance our corrupt MSM hacks will honestly cover the event and will no doubt adhere to the "unprovoked attack" nonsense as ususal.

    Palestine Is Striking Back
    October 5 2023:

    Over 800 israeli settlers storm Al-Aqsa compound

    More than 800 Israeli settlers stormed the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound in occupied East Jerusalem on Thursday morning under the protection of Israeli forces.
    Rabbis, heads of settlement associations, and far-right university lecturers were among 832 people who forced their way into the religious site compound, a source in the Islamic Endowments Department in Jerusalem told The New Arab's Arabic sister site Al-Araby Al-Jadeed.

    Israeli forces imposed severe restrictions on Muslim worshippers entering Al-Aqsa and those under 60 were prevented from accessing the site.

    It comes during the Jewish religious holiday of Sukkot, which started on 29 September and ends on Friday. The holiday has seen thousands of Israeli extremists storm the Al-Aqsa compound, with almost 1,500 entering the site on Monday.

    Israeli extremists also continued on Thursday to hold provocative marches both inside Jerusalem's Old City and outside its walls, attacking Palestinians and their property.

    They also beat and spat at journalists in a market area near Al-Aqsa, where shops were forced to close for the sixth day in a row.

    The Old City is home to Al-Aqsa as well as the Western Wall and the Church of the Holy Sepulchre.

    The Al-Aqsa compound is the third holiest site in Islam and the most important Muslim place in Palestine.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sun Oct 08, 2023 3:46 pm

    Sprut-B wrote:Israelis and UkroNazis are basically the same when it comes to their racially and ideologically driven hatred. That's why, I have zero sympathy for either of them.
    ZioNazis and UkroNazis and OriginalNazis are all birds of a feather. Zero differences other than language and their choice of which untermensch to hate...

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    Post  Kiko Sun Oct 08, 2023 4:00 pm

    F*ck Yanquiland and the chutzpah clique encroached in Beltway's State Department:

    Israel requests additional military assistance from the US, RIANovosti.

    Blinken: Israel has asked the US for additional military assistance.

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    Post  Regular Sun Oct 08, 2023 5:19 pm

    More funds won’t fix broken society and corrupt politics. Current gov needs to go if Israel wants to benefit from that money.

    Anyway, their problem, it seems like they want more war, more bloodshed, more barbarism.

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    Post  par far Sun Oct 08, 2023 5:48 pm

    This looks like a false attack.




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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sun Oct 08, 2023 6:04 pm

    ⚡Armed clash in the town of Abu Dis, east of Jerusalem now

    https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/1711044789737582859

    Cool

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    Post  nomadski Sun Oct 08, 2023 6:09 pm

    The old idea of engaging collectively the western forces ; those of USA and Britain and France ( reportedly connected to recent drone strike against Syrian military training base ) and to a lesser extent , other European states at the forefront of war against middle East , North Africa and now Russia , is a good idea . Dispersing their forces and supplies , to an extent , where breakthrough can happen in Ukraine or Israel , and limit their ability to intervene in central Asia or against China , will bring great stability to the world .


    For this purpose , Russia and Iran and other allies can allow opening a second front in Israel . Russia can drop objections to Iranian troops near Golan , and play neutral . Whilst at the same time supporting with logistics . And Iran , instead of shouting from a distance , and playing to an audience , can carry out a real war , against Israel territory , together with Lebanese forces . Fighting the West to the last Israeli !

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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Sun Oct 08, 2023 6:16 pm

    Backman wrote:I can't help but think Israel wanted this to happen. But got more than they bargained for.

    With Azerbaijan rolling up Artsahk and the Ukraine war going on, now they can roll up their problem region without much notice.

    I wont make much friends with this opinion but I think Hamas is insane for doing this. Why ? You are just going to get it right back just like Ukraine did.

    This is brutal footage. Some of the videos show the women captured have shit their pants.

    The Jew has an obsession with presenting himself as a militarily competent people. They want to present their women as born warriors and their army as an elite.
    Their only victory is to subdue and kill unarmed civilians in Palestine, and to have defeated mediocre regional armies 50 years ago *In Lebanon they got their asses kicked. They have never had a serious war and without the support of the United States they are insignificant in terms of war. They wouldn't last a week against Iran

    Think that the average Israeli is similar to Zielensky. A boastful dwarf who wants to present himself as a warrior with media support, killing children and women, and "terrorists" with homemade missiles.

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    Post  Hannibal Barca Sun Oct 08, 2023 6:38 pm

    This sums it up excellently Cool

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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Sun Oct 08, 2023 6:43 pm

    The good thing is that the senile Biden administration did not expect this. They wanted to concentrate the conflicts in Russia's zone of influence and now they have a big problem in their main ally in the East.
    It is a good opportunity for Russia to replenish energy and plan what is coming. The globalist order is crumbling.

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    Post  Sprut-B Sun Oct 08, 2023 6:47 pm

    ArgentinaGuard wrote:
    The Jew has an obsession with presenting himself as a militarily competent people. They want to present their women as born warriors and their army as an elite.
    Their only victory is to subdue and kill unarmed civilians in Palestine, and to have defeated mediocre regional armies 50 years ago *In Lebanon they got their asses kicked. They have never had a serious war and without the support of the United States they are insignificant in terms of war. They wouldn't last a week against Iran. The Jew only serves to defraud in commerce and for intellectual tasks while he subjects us to his global order with soft methods.
    Israeli military is definitely incompetent. We have no doubt about it.
    But we shouldn't slander entire Jewish people. There is a distinction between Jews and Zionists. There are many Jewish Israelis who are against the radical state policies of the Israeli govt against Palestinians. Liberal opposition actually wanted to seek dialogues with Palestine. And we should also keep in mind that some HAMAS fanatics have also killed many civilians, which is also unacceptable.

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    Post  Sprut-B Sun Oct 08, 2023 6:53 pm

    Regular wrote:IDF showed quite poor performance. Shows us how not to believe hype.

    Instead of focusing on gadgets and high tech solutions, they should focus on patrols with dogs and guards. They can hide their shitty tanks after this.

    Murica is also not far behind. We have seen the results of super duper counter offensive by the NATO trained Ukro soldiers

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    Post  Sprut-B Sun Oct 08, 2023 6:56 pm

    Israeli soldiers have no clue about how to fight in close quarters urban environment. It's crazy how the propaganda had us thinking they were experts at urban warfare, but turns out that's so far from reality.

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    Post  Mir Sun Oct 08, 2023 7:10 pm

    Sprut-B wrote:Israeli soldiers have no clue about how to fight in close quarters urban environment. It's crazy how the propaganda had us thinking they were experts at urban warfare, but turns out that's so far from reality.

    It's always easy when you have a gun and the other guy has a rock.

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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Oct 08, 2023 7:11 pm

    Kiko wrote:F*ck Yanquiland and the chutzpah clique encroached in Beltway's State Department:

    Israel requests additional military assistance from the US, RIANovosti.

    Blinken: Israel has asked the US for additional military assistance.

    Ukraine and Israel competing for resources, this could get theatrical Cool

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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Oct 08, 2023 7:12 pm

    Sprut-B wrote:Israeli soldiers have no clue about how to fight in close quarters urban environment. It's crazy how the propaganda had us thinking they were experts at urban warfare, but turns out that's so far from reality.


    I think he was dead the first five times...

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    Post  ALAMO Sun Oct 08, 2023 7:43 pm

    He respawned.
    Like our Rambo.

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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:10 pm

    Sprut-B wrote:Israeli soldiers have no clue about how to fight in close quarters urban environment. It's crazy how the propaganda had us thinking they were experts at urban warfare, but turns out that's so far from reality.


    Who said that Battlefield and Call of Duty don't educate for war?


    Man, they're doing shit to the Israelis soldiers. Check this out
    https://t.me/geromanat/11810

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:25 pm

    @dana916
    About the Hamas attack on Israel - by Alexey Makarkin

    1. The unprecedented attack by Hamas on Israeli cities with its demonstrative cruelty is a deliberate action that has been prepared for a long time. It is clear that Hamas was not initially focused on holding territories - it does not have sufficient resources for this. Hamas is not able to resist the Israeli army in open battle. He has other tasks.

    2. Hamas's first task is to sow panic in Israeli society as a whole and among the settlers in the first place. The settlers are one of the pillars of the current government of Benjamin Netanyahu, the most right-wing cabinet in Israeli history. They are accustomed to living on the front line, but Israeli populated areas have never been subjected to direct massive attacks by armed militants capable of even briefly capturing part of the country's territory. Now Hamas is counting on the flight of many of them from their inhabited lands.

    3. The second task is to take hostages and use them to your advantage to blackmail the Israeli government. Hamas remembers the story of Corporal Gilad Shalit, who was exchanged for 1,027 Palestinian prisoners. Now they have many more Israelis in their hands - both military (up to the major general who was among the settlers) and civilians.

    4. The third goal is to delegitimize the Israeli government, presenting it as weak, ineffective and unable to cope with Hamas. War in the 21st century has a powerful information component, which Hamas takes full advantage of.

    5. The fourth task is to gain the support of the Arab street, which rejoices when seeing footage of Hamas terror. Arab leaders are cautious, but they cannot ignore the sentiments of the masses, for whom Hamas are heroes. An inevitable harsh response from Israel is also included in the plan - it could undermine the normalization of Israel’s relations with Arab countries (diplomatic relations were established with some of them under Trump, and difficult negotiations with Saudi Arabia continue under Biden). Diplomatic combinations collapse during military operations.

    6. The fifth objective is to strengthen the already close ties with Iran, which is the beneficiary of the Hamas attack. Lebanese Hezbollah is already threatening to intervene if Israel crushes Hamas (and it has no other choice). At the same time, Iran is consolidating society within the country - now oppositionists demanding regime change will be considered “Zionist agents.”

    7. In Israeli society, the effect of “consolidation around the flag” works, as always in such cases. The opposition supports the government's actions regardless of what it thinks about its effectiveness - the public division over Netanyahu's judicial reform has temporarily lost its relevance. But the question arises about what to do next. Any powerful strikes on Hamas's military infrastructure during the already announced ground operation will not defeat the organization, which uses Gaza as its springboard. If you try to establish control over Gaza, you may face numerous risks - the resumption of a long intifada (and in the West Bank), new losses among the military, and the complete degradation of relations with Arab countries. And all this without taking into account the hostage factor.

    8. After the end of the emergency (no one knows when this will happen now), there will be a “debriefing” - like after the Yom Kippur War of 1973, which, despite the victory, revealed the unpreparedness of the Israeli security forces for it. The consequence was the resignation of Golda Meir's government. Netanyahu and his ministers will also have to answer difficult questions about the work of security forces, including the intelligence services. And also why the Minister of National Security, the leader of the far right, Itamar Ben-Gvir, defiantly climbed the Temple Mount, despite the threats of Hamas and realizing that this was unacceptable not only for radicals, but also for moderate Arabs - and at the same time the security of the country’s population was not ensured.


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    An example of how the experience of combat in one part of the world is not always properly studied in another.
    The footage shows completely unafraid Israeli artillery on the border with Lebanon, obviously not used to fighting an enemy of similar capabilities and receiving drone attacks in response.
    Both self-propelled guns and auxiliary vehicles are concentrated in the general heap, and ammunition is dumped on the ground right next to the equipment.
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    Post  Kiko Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:30 pm

    Russia might well send a powerful VMF task force to the East Mediterranean to counter the Ford AC. The Yanquis will go full all-in to defend Israel, even deflagrating a third world war.


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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:30 pm

    There is a story of rich young people at an electronic party meters from Gaza.
    In other words, they have imprisoned, marginalized, impoverished the Palestinian population while they enjoy opulence and hedonism.


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    Post  ahmedfire Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:32 pm

    Good shooter , from the first bullet .

    Today was bloody on IDF too , Hamas fighters attacked more Israeli points and explode a building full of IDF soldiers .

    Now US is sending it's aircraft carrier near to Israel Laughing

    Israel now is bombing heavily Gaza which shows their usual strategy to spread fear  .

    Egyptian negotiator told Israelis that Hezbollah will join the war if IDF invaded Gaza .


    They reached the capital WTF


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    Post  ALAMO Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:48 pm

    ArgentinaGuard wrote:
    Man, they're doing shit to the Israelis soldiers. Check this out
    https://t.me/geromanat/11810

    The only thing they can achieve by linking this kind of shit is to enlight people that HAMAS is a bunch of goatfuckers with a tribal mentality.
    Men, I really, really don't get this obsession towards humiliating the dead bodies of your opponents.
    What is the goal, seriously? dunno
    Russkie are collecting them all, even decomposed ones.
    Even watching the comments of regular soldiers, you can hear them being rather feeling sorrow for the senseless death rather than cheering it.
    I really hope that the materials showing massed female POW are here because someone there is wise enough to play the music that the world public opinion will swallow.
    Saving and taking care of them will do much better than showing the humiliated body of a 19 y/o female conscript.

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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Sun Oct 08, 2023 9:17 pm

    ALAMO wrote:
    ArgentinaGuard wrote:
    Man, they're doing shit to the Israelis soldiers. Check this out
    https://t.me/geromanat/11810

    The only thing they can achieve by linking this kind of shit is to enlight people that HAMAS is a bunch of goatfuckers with a tribal mentality.
    Men, I really, really don't get this obsession towards humiliating the dead bodies of your opponents.
    What is the goal, seriously? dunno
    Russkie are collecting them all, even decomposed ones.
    Even watching the comments of regular soldiers, you can hear them being rather feeling sorrow for the senseless death rather than cheering it.
    I really hope that the materials showing massed female POW are here because someone there is wise enough to play the music that the world public opinion will swallow.
    Saving and taking care of them will do much better than showing the humiliated body of a 19 y/o female conscript.

    Nobody finds out because this does not appear in the Western media. Telegram is Russian. These soldiers indiscriminately kill civilians. They have some of their medicine. That they wiped out an entire convoy shows that Israel is not as powerful as it presents itself.
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