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    2023 Israel–Hamas war

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    Post  Backman Sat Oct 07, 2023 11:33 pm

    I can't help but think Israel wanted this to happen. But got more than they bargained for.

    With Azerbaijan rolling up Artsahk and the Ukraine war going on, now they can roll up their problem region without much notice.

    I wont make much friends with this opinion but I think Hamas is insane for doing this. Why ? You are just going to get it right back just like Ukraine did.

    This is brutal footage. Some of the videos show the women captured have shit their pants.
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    Post  Hannibal Barca Sat Oct 07, 2023 11:46 pm

    It is incredible to think that this cancerous state even force women into war. Of course these women have full responsibility for not leaving this heinous state.


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    Post  Arsenic Sat Oct 07, 2023 11:50 pm

    I've always been against women in the army...because if they're captured alive, it's the beginning of hell for her...

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    Post  George1 Sun Oct 08, 2023 12:02 am

    Backman wrote:I can't help but think Israel wanted this to happen. But got more than they bargained for.

    With Azerbaijan rolling up Artsahk and the Ukraine war going on, now they can roll up their problem region without much notice.

    I wont make much friends with this opinion but I think Hamas is insane for doing this. Why ? You are just going to get it right back just like Ukraine did.


    if we accept this as realistic then Palestinians except for insane they are stupid because they help Israel to fullfil its secret plan

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    Post  Backman Sun Oct 08, 2023 1:28 am

    For the record I am non political on this one. But I believe starting wars you cant win is counter productive and insane which applies here.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sun Oct 08, 2023 2:48 am

    Best case scenario, the war is limited to Gaza

    Worse case scenario, it draws in all in the region, and have chaos in the med

    Russia needs the northern sea route now more than ever , Suez will be a disaster if this expands

    Egypt must be regretting the decision to forego su35

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    Post  GarryB Sun Oct 08, 2023 2:57 am

    No trannies there... meanwhile females do rear support or security jobs mostly in the IDF.

    Some look quite attractive... but I would keep them away from my rear.

    I am familiar with seeing Israeli women soldiers they tend to like posing for photos with their weapons in their uniforms, but war starts and "I am just a girl... don't shoot...".

    Interesting the evil Palestinians seem to be keeping these women as prisoners (only the west would call them hostages... they are female soldiers...), because during WWII the Germans really didn't approve of women soldiers and tended to shoot female soviet soldiers rather than take them prisoner.

    The Germans are being rehabilitated in the west these days, but no chance for the Palestinians.

    I wont make much friends with this opinion but I think Hamas is insane for doing this. Why ? You are just going to get it right back just like Ukraine did.

    The way Israel treats them and the fact that they are slowing swallowing up their land for israeli settlements  the palestinians really have no choice but to fight because they are going to die anyway.

    This will be very interesting... at a time every western politiician is desperate for western media and military and political attention to stay on Kiev to keep the eyes on the prize, this happens... does the US have the resources and ammo to help them this time and how is this going to effect conflicts in other places.

    The US likes to boast it can fight two full scale wars simultaneously, but the conflict in Kiev is really dipping into their resources, both financial and military, and they are being attacked by their HATO allies in Syria, and now this.... the hilarious thing is they wanted a second front, but against their enemies... not themselves.

    This is brutal footage. Some of the videos show the women captured have shit their pants.

    They have probably been told all sorts of stories about their enemy and now they are under enemy control... some of those stories would be propaganda to motivate them to fight against the Palestinians... you have to demonise the whole population if you want your soldiers to treat civilians like that... ironically something the Germans did too... and the west has done in the Ukraine and other former Soviet States... even if those bastards were willing to learn such hatred... the Germans found these people were very keen to kill Russians and were surprised by their attitude... which is saying something.

    Of course shitting your pants could actually be a clever anti rape tactic...

    if we accept this as realistic then Palestinians except for insane they are stupid because they help Israel to fullfil its secret plan

    Israel was following that plan anyway, and if they didn't do anything they are going to end up in the sea.

    Just a reminder, while it is not against the rules of this forum to show images or videos of dead bodies or other objectionable material, it is a rule that you use links to allow users to access them with a CLEAR warning of what they will see when the click the link. Otherwise you posts might just be deleted. There is a zero tolerance policy for porn.

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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Oct 08, 2023 3:08 am

    ahmedfire wrote:Captured war prisoners .


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    Post  caveat emptor Sun Oct 08, 2023 4:14 am

    Amazingly bad reaction from Israelis. Considering how much they rely on the army, it is shameless.
    Arabs took some notes from recent conflict in use of drones, but lack of FPV drones was surprising.
    Israelis didn't learn anything and own hubris is being paid in blood.
    Lucky thing for them is that Arabs don't use any FPV drones as those urban clearing operations done by IDF would quickly turn into carnage.
    It seems that forward positions were caught on sleeping and didn't resist much if at all. They got slaughtered like rabits.
    What i really didn't like was disgraceful treatment of Arabs towards POW and captured civilians.

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    Post  caveat emptor Sun Oct 08, 2023 4:16 am

    franco wrote:

    No trannies there... meanwhile females do rear support or security jobs mostly in the IDF.
    I don't know what kind of support those girls were supposed to give, but fighting wasn't one of them.

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    Post  Broski Sun Oct 08, 2023 5:27 am

    GarryB wrote:Of course shitting your pants could actually be a clever anti rape tactic...
    Someone who intends to rape you is NOT going to be put off by shit, blood or puke. The best anti-rape tactic is to kill or incapacitate whoever's trying to rape you, or run away if possible.
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    Post  Backman Sun Oct 08, 2023 6:02 am

    This guy is claiming that Hamas was anti Assad at one point. I will plead ignorant on this. But if they have 6th columnist tendencies, that would explain this suicidal cases belli. Call it operation unify Israel.

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    Post  Backman Sun Oct 08, 2023 7:17 am

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    Post  Mir Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:05 am

    The POW's would probably be used as human shields against Israel's indiscriminate bombing.

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    Post  Sujoy Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:09 am

    jhelb wrote:Indians are jokers, they have the world's second largest muslim population and yet they are supporting Israel. Time for muslims to do some sucide bombing in India.
    Idiotic idea. India has the second largest Muslim population in the world. Outside Russia not a single non Muslim country has created more Muslim billionaires than India has. Most of the highest paid movie stars in the world are Indian Muslims. Why will they shoot themselves in their foot by carrying out such wanton acts of terror?

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    Post  Backman Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:12 am

    Yuri Podolyaka:

    Israeli-Palestinian war (situation on the morning of 10/08/23)

    The IDF was never able to fulfill its promise to clear all enemy-held territory by nightfall. The purges are going on, but the Israelis are capturing not the professional groups that carried out yesterday's morning breakthrough (and then left after taking hostages), but the "Gaz" gopotas who came to rape and rob.

    It is this that is now being cleaned up in Jewish cities, during the cleansing of which another property of the modern Israeli army was revealed - the lack of communication with units that, while combing neighborhoods, bumped into each other and in some places opened “friendly fire”. And all this, coupled with the strange clearing tactics, when they walk around the city in crowds, doesn’t really bother me. If they had cleared some Ukrainian city today, the casualties would have been tens or hundreds, and the “cleanser” detachments would have been completely defeated and fled. Where have the skills of the Israeli army gone? I never cease to be amazed.

    Well, the third main point is that as of evening, the number of killed Israelis exceeded 200 people (the number of wounded was 1600). Which has already made the conflict for this side the bloodiest since 1982.

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    Post  starman Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:44 am

    Mir wrote:The POW's would probably be used as human shields against Israel's indiscriminate bombing.

    And as bargaining chips. Hamas may get battered, but what an impression it has made! It's great to see not all arabs are becoming like US politicians, sucking upon to the zionists. One can only hope people in the "normalization" countries see the contrast between Palestinian courage and the capitulation of their governments.

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    Post  jhelb Sun Oct 08, 2023 11:35 am

    Merkava IV's APS has failed. It was hit by an Iran designed RPG.

    Unless the APS ran out of munition this is proof that APS doesn't work.

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    Post  Hole Sun Oct 08, 2023 12:02 pm

    Say goodbye to your 2 decades of peace.
    What 2 decades of peace? scratch

    Where have the skills of the Israeli army gone?
    They were never there. For 50+ years they are fighting goat herders.
    The rest was made up by the propaganda department.

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    Post  Sprut-B Sun Oct 08, 2023 12:03 pm

    Complete shit show.

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    Post  Regular Sun Oct 08, 2023 2:18 pm

    IDF showed quite poor performance. Shows us how not to believe hype.

    Instead of focusing on gadgets and high tech solutions, they should focus on patrols with dogs and guards. They can hide their shitty tanks after this.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sun Oct 08, 2023 2:22 pm

    Escalation in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict zone

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    Despite the statements of the Israeli security forces, the Israelis are not able to fully regain control over the lost settlements along the Gaza Strip.

    🔻Northbound:
    ▪fighting for Ashkelon has shifted to the east: it appears that the sabotage groups that infiltrated by sea and air yesterday have been dispersed. Palestinian factions are advancing along the highway and are 800 meters from the prison;
    ▪in Mav'akim a couple dozen Israeli strongmen were killed, the whole area up to Zikim is a continuous battle. Israel Defense Forces units managed to gain a foothold on the western outskirts;
    ▪separate groups of Palestinians managed to reach the southern approaches to Ashdod, where they set up a meat grinder right on the highway. The IDF fared no better: soldiers covered themselves with vehicles carrying civilians.

    🔻Eastbound:
    ▪Sderot is covered with a fog of war. No exact zones of control can be established, but Hamas claims constant rocket attacks on IDF positions in the city in support of entrenched militants;
    ▪Palestinians claimed successful landings in several localities - including Ofakim, which the IDF claimed to have cleared. In addition, landings were made in Maghena, Sa'ada and Shokeda;
    ▪the area from Ofakim to Raim changes hands. Kisufim and road directions under firm Palestinian control.

    🔻 Southern direction:
    ▪despite the presence of redeployed reinforcements, IDF fails to advance to southern Gaza Strip.

    ❗At 1pm, Hamas called on all factions and populations in the West Bank to join the war against Israel. A second front is expected to open soon.


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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sun Oct 08, 2023 2:35 pm

    Resistance fighters are now operating only 10 kilometers away from the West Bank.

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    https://twitter.com/IranObserver0/status/1710983321562341828

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sun Oct 08, 2023 2:39 pm

    For a few hours there have been attacks from Lebanon against Israel.


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    Some are saying it’s a missile, it’s unclear.

    But we do know it’s over the Safed area in north-Palestine.

    https://twitter.com/AryJeay/status/1710994264816001365

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    Post  ALAMO Sun Oct 08, 2023 2:41 pm

    It looks like marks of an intercepted missile. A cloud of hit and remains of burning fuel or debris was spread with the explosion.

    Edit : yup. It's Patriot intercepting some drone.

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