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    Crimea and ex-Ukrainian/Black Sea regions integration into RF

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    Post  franco Mon May 31, 2021 9:06 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:So uh, what is the actual plan?

    Apparently above our clearance level yet Very Happy
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    Post  miketheterrible Mon May 31, 2021 9:38 pm

    franco wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:So uh, what is the actual plan?

    Apparently above our clearance level yet Very Happy

    I personally think a combination of: Desalination plant, pipeline and underground reserves would be the most ideal. Guarantee to get water and have a surplus.
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    Post  franco Mon May 31, 2021 10:16 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    franco wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:So uh, what is the actual plan?

    Apparently above our clearance level yet Very Happy

    I personally think a combination of: Desalination plant, pipeline and underground reserves would be the most ideal.  Guarantee to get water and have a surplus.

    The article says that there are 14 projects planned with an investment of 48 bl rubles.
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    Post  franco Mon May 31, 2021 10:28 pm

    SIMFEROPOL, May 31-RIA Novosti Crimea, Vladislav Sergienko. The Ukrainian side unilaterally temporarily closes the checkpoint "Chaplynka" ("Perekop" from the Russian side - ed.), located on the border with Crimea. This is stated on the website of the regional state administration of the Kherson region. The situation on the border with Ukraine-video © RIA Novosti Crimea Crimea before the holiday season: what happens on the border with Ukraine " From June 7, for 14 days, the work of the checkpoint of entry and exit "Chaplynka"will be suspended. This is due to the repair work, " the Ukrainian side said in a statement. In a comment to RIA Novosti Crimea, lawyer, corresponding member of the Russian Academy of Sciences Yanis Yuksha noted that Kiev should have officially warned the Russian side that one of the checkpoints would be temporarily closed for the necessary work. "If we talk about the norms of international law that Ukraine ignores, then Kiev should have notified the neighboring state that the checkpoint is temporarily suspending work. Yes, Ukraine does not recognize Crimea as part of Russia and does not recognize the state border of the Russian Federation, but within the framework of international law, it is enough for one of the states to recognize the territory, " he said. As previously reported by the website of RIA Novosti Crimea, according to the Border Department of the FSB of Russia for the Republic of Crimea, more than 140 thousand people and 17.5 thousand vehicles have passed through three checkpoints on the border of Ukraine and the peninsula since the beginning of 2021.

    https://crimea.ria.ru/society/20210531/1119629817/Ukraina-zakryvaet-rabotu-propusknogo-punkta-na-granitse-s-Krymom.html?utm_source=smi2&utm_medium=banner&utm_campaign=rian_partners

    NOTE: hopefully they are spending lots of money or Auslander will be pissed and rightfully so Wink

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    Post  Russian_Patriot_ Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:33 pm

    Three new water intakes have been built in the east of Crimea. 

    The United Energy Corporation is putting into operation three water intakes in the east of Crimea, which will supply water to Kerch, Feodosia, Sudak and settlements in several districts of the peninsula. The Nezhinsky, Prostornensky and Novogrigoryevsky water intakes already supply water.

    The Nezhinsky water intake is the first artesian object from which the water supply through the North Crimean Canal was resumed on the territory of Crimea. The total capacity of water intakes corresponds to the design - 195 thousand cubic meters of water per day. 12 wells were drilled at each facility, including 10 working wells and 2 reserve wells.

    The hydrolysis plants installed at the water intakes are put into operation after the new water pipeline is launched. Aftertreatment of water before delivery to consumers is carried out at the treatment facilities of settlements.

    Currently, the water intakes are already served by the Krymmeliovodkhoz. The construction of water intakes has been carried out since 2018, the total cost under the contract is 1 billion 19 million rubles.
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    Post  Maximmmm Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:03 pm

    If I was Ukrainian I'd be salivating at all of the infrastructure rebuilding that we've done to Crimea. It's insane what has happened in 7 years.

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    Post  Lurk83 Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:41 pm

    Maximmmm wrote:If I was Ukrainian I'd be salivating at all of the infrastructure rebuilding that we've done to Crimea. It's insane what has happened in 7 years.

    Crimeans gave recieved far more in 7 years from Russia than they ever got in 25 years from Ukraine!

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    Post  GarryB Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:23 am

    The Orcs were probably expecting the opposite... poor Russia unable to fund basic infrastructure in their own country would never spend money on the Crimea... and that of course the Americans are always generous to their hosts and shower them in money and presents, so they will likely expecting to become the new front line with US troops spending lots of money and giving stuff away.

    A bit more investigation into US culture should have been their homework...



    Poor people are evil. Rich people are good and smart. Americans spend more money on their dogs and cats and other pets than they do on poor people in their own communities.  Western people spend more to keep prisoners in jail than to improve the life style and conditions of their elderly and mentally incompetent.

    And the real irony is that the Crimea is going to generate more money that it costs to get back on its feet when it is repaired and restored and offers another place in Russia for Russians to have a nice holiday without leaving Russia.

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:47 am

    Lurk83 wrote:
    Crimeans gave recieved far more in 7 years from Russia than they ever got in 25 years from Ukraine!

    It is a very easy task, as 404 has not provided any assistance to Crimea, but pumped the cash out of it for 2 decades.

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    Post  mr_hd Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:55 pm

    Maximmmm wrote:If I was Ukrainian I'd be salivating at all of the infrastructure rebuilding that we've done to Crimea. It's insane what has happened in 7 years.
    But major issue with water is not one centimeter closer to solution, it is disaster for agro sector. Russia so far has no real answer for it.
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    Post  auslander Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:42 pm

    mr_hd wrote:
    Maximmmm wrote:If I was Ukrainian I'd be salivating at all of the infrastructure rebuilding that we've done to Crimea. It's insane what has happened in 7 years.
    But major issue with water is not one centimeter closer to solution, it is disaster for agro sector. Russia so far has no real answer for it.

    Only the rice farms along the canal, the rest are doing good. Perhaps you didn't see the well pipelines being laid a couple posts up? And at this time we are having the wettest and most 'chilly' late winter and spring in the last 150 years (records here go back 200 years). At this moment we in Sevastopol are enjoying our fourth hurricane, albeit mild compared to Atlantic hurricanes, of the year, deluge of rains started two hours ago and there is a gentle zephyr of a breeze of roughly 65 kph ruffling milady's skirts. Kerch is under water for the second time this year, as is Simferopol just to our east.

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    Post  miketheterrible Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:34 pm

    mr_hd wrote:
    Maximmmm wrote:If I was Ukrainian I'd be salivating at all of the infrastructure rebuilding that we've done to Crimea. It's insane what has happened in 7 years.
    But major issue with water is not one centimeter closer to solution, it is disaster for agro sector. Russia so far has no real answer for it.

    New water intake on Belbek River launched in Sevastopol
    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/140152/

    Beshtreek-Suy water pipeline launched in Crimea
    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/140140/

    In Crimea exceeded the plan of sowing grain by 21.2%
    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/141927/

    Three new water intakes built in eastern Crimea
    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/141903/

    New field greenhouse complex launched in Crimea
    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/141531/

    The area of plantings of vineyards in Crimea increased three times
    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/141447/

    Crimea increases the area of irrigated land
    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/140837/

    The first stage of the new greenhouse complex launched in the Bakhchisarai district of Crimea
    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/140638/

    Technopolis Moscow has equipped a water intake in Simferopol
    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/140549/

    Finally:

    The situation with water supply in Crimea
    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/139453/




    Simferopol, February 14. Crimeainform.

    Two-thirds of the monthly precipitation in the form of snow fell in Simferopol during the snowfall on Friday and Saturday. This Crimeainform was reported in the Crimean Hydrometeorological Center.

    "In Simferopol, 27 mm of rain fell at a monthly rate of 42 mm, 23 mm of rain fell on Ai-Petri, 27 mm fell on the Angar Pass, and 27 mm in Bakhchisarai district (Postoir meteorology station)," the hydrometeorological center said. The amount of precipitation forecasters determine after the melting of snow, so the data on snow cover and precipitation are different.

    "The snow cover in Simferopol is 28 centimeters, on Ai-Petri - 12 centimeters, on the Angar Pass - 18 centimeters, in Bakhchisarai district - 25 centimeters," - said forecasters. In the near future, heavy snowfalls in Crimea are not expected, on February 18, including daytime temperatures will be minus 3 - minus 8 degrees, night - from minus 11 to minus 16. In Crimea, there is a storm warning about frost and snowfall. Until February 18, the temperature is expected to be 7-8 degrees below the climatic norm.

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    Post  kvs Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:57 pm

    The western media is spreading FUD about a water crisis in Crimea echoing the rubbish spouted by Kiev propagandists.

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:12 pm

    kvs wrote:The western media is spreading FUD about a water crisis in Crimea echoing the rubbish spouted by Kiev propagandists.  


    Is it anything new? No need to be impressed, Crimea bridge is still a Mosfilm production, remember Laughing

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    Post  kvs Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:06 am

    ALAMO wrote:
    kvs wrote:The western media is spreading FUD about a water crisis in Crimea echoing the rubbish spouted by Kiev propagandists.  


    Is it anything new? No need to be impressed, Crimea bridge is still a Mosfilm production, remember Laughing

    But this drives people to ask certain questions on this forum. The cacophony of propaganda works.

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    Post  ALAMO Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:26 am

    If you want to see the level of idiocy that is archivable, just take a look at Quora questions concerning Russia. They are on the own league there Laughing I mean, The National one Wink

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    Post  GarryB Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:51 pm

    Which is why it is important to not blame the messenger and just point out information that shows their information is wrong and hopefully in the future they will doubt the sources that so led them astray as to believe propaganda.

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    Post  ALAMO Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:22 pm

    That depends on what you want to achieve.
    Murica is so biased in general in its exceptionalism religion, that common sense and logic hardly apply.
    The interesting thing is, that an American is in general as sane as anyone else on the planet.
    Honest and decent people, I do business with them for a decade.
    Whats sucks, is an official agenda, whose victims are they along with all other sane people.

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    Post  GarryB Sat Jun 19, 2021 8:35 am

    The whole culture has changed.... truth and justice used to be the American way.... now they say truth justice and the American way like it is three different things they are talking about... almost like options... you can have truth and justice or you can have the American way which therefore must be lies and revenge...

    Sad really, because what they pretend to be selling sounds really good but they don't aspire to such lofty goals for themselves, they use their morals and ethics to bludgeon their enemies who never said they were interested in such things.

    So you get the US claiming the Chinese are abusing a minority group in there own country... but talk of human rights abuse from a country that has Guantanimo bay concentration camp and CIA torture rendition bases all through Europe and the world... it really just sounds hollow.

    Even just their treatment of those who expose their own criminal activity like Snowden and Assange and Manning and many many others we never hear about...

    The west can shove its sermons up its arse and STFU.

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    Post  franco Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:25 pm

    Full reservoirs: How Crimea's water problem was resolved in a few days

    It looks like the "water" problem of the Crimea is being solved in a natural way. Due to the abundance of rainfall last week, local reservoirs quickly filled with water. On Wednesday and Thursday, the rains on the peninsula were so strong that the issue of water supply to the Crimeans was closed.

    According to the head of the Department of Water Supply, Wastewater Disposal and Sanitary Engineering of the Academy of Civil Engineering and Architecture, KFU named after Vernadsky Ilya Nikolenko, on Tuesday the Zagorskoye and Schastlivskoye reservoirs were replenished with an additional 0.5 million cubic meters of water. The partisan reservoir received 1.2 million cubic meters of water on Wednesday from tributaries. Thus, the problem with the water supply to Crimea was practically solved in two or three days.

    There is enough water now, there are more than 20 million cubic meters in the Zagorsk reservoir, now we have no problems with water supply - said the head of Crimea Sergei Aksenov after a trip to Yalta on Saturday.

    As of June, the situation with the provision of Crimean residents with water has noticeably improved in comparison with the previous year. Anatoly Kopachevsky, director of the research and production company "Water Technologies", suggested that by the end of this year the reservoirs feeding Simferopol will receive about 30 million cubic meters of water. In his opinion, there will be no problems with water supply on the peninsula in the coming years, which will allow making strategic decisions in this area.

    https://topcor-ru.translate.goog/20410-polnye-vodohranilischa-kak-za-neskolko-dnej-razreshilas-vodnaja-problema-kryma.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB&_x_tr_pto=ajax,se

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    Post  Scorpius Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:49 pm

    franco wrote:Full reservoirs: How Crimea's water problem was resolved in a few days

    ...

    As of June, the situation with the provision of Crimean residents with water has noticeably improved in comparison with the previous year. Anatoly Kopachevsky, director of the research and production company "Water Technologies", suggested that by the end of this year the reservoirs feeding Simferopol will receive about 30 million cubic meters of water. In his opinion, there will be no problems with water supply on the peninsula in the coming years, which will allow making strategic decisions in this area.

    https://topcor-ru.translate.goog/20410-polnye-vodohranilischa-kak-za-neskolko-dnej-razreshilas-vodnaja-problema-kryma.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB&_x_tr_pto=ajax,se

    One of the main reasons for water scarcity is its huge losses during transportation and preparation, reaching up to 80% (for comparison: on average in the Russian Federation, losses are 20-30%). The authorities, according to the federal target program, expect to solve the problem by 2025. It is planned to spend more than 18 billion rubles from the federal budget on measures to eliminate the deficit. In particular, it is planned to build desalination plants with a capacity of 20 thousand cubic meters of water per day by 2025. Earlier it was reported that the budget can allocate about 8 billion rubles for the construction of factories.

    https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4867173

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    Post  Scorpius Mon Jun 21, 2021 9:01 pm

    The size of the budget of the Crimea for 2013 (the last year as part of Ukraine): 4.7979532 billion UAH (or 18.759997012 billion rubles at the then current exchange rate).
    The size of the budget of the Crimea as part of Russia, 2021: 150,836,290,936.78 rubles, or 56,705,372,532.62 UAH at the current exchange rate.
    I think you can see the visual difference. By the way, do not confuse: in one of the cases you can see the economy of a European power, which is supported by all the power of the civilized West, and in the other-a country with a torn economy, a gas station country that does not produce anything, is under sanctions, etc. Crimea and ex-Ukrainian/Black Sea regions integration into RF - Page 25 1f60c

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    Post  kvs Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:11 pm

    Scorpius wrote:The size of the budget of the Crimea for 2013 (the last year as part of Ukraine): 4.7979532 billion UAH (or 18.759997012 billion rubles at the then current exchange rate).
    The size of the budget of the Crimea as part of Russia, 2021: 150,836,290,936.78 rubles, or 56,705,372,532.62 UAH at the current exchange rate.
    I think you can see the visual difference. By the way, do not confuse: in one of the cases you can see the economy of a European power, which is supported by all the power of the civilized West, and in the other-a country with a torn economy, a gas station country that does not produce anything, is under sanctions, etc.  Crimea and ex-Ukrainian/Black Sea regions integration into RF - Page 25 1f60c

    Thank you for the links. This data destroys all of the efforts by the liberasts and their western backers to paint the situation in Crimea as dire.
    No freaking jurisdiction on the planet is worse off after having a factor of eight budget increase. Also, the forex change in the ruble
    in late 2014 means nothing. Russian domestic prices are not in dollars.

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    Post  Scorpius Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:54 pm

    kvs wrote:
    Thank you for the links.    This data destroys all of the efforts by the liberasts and their western backers to paint the situation in Crimea as dire.  
    No freaking jurisdiction on the planet is worse off after having a factor of eight budget increase.   Also, the forex change in the ruble
    in late 2014 means nothing.   Russian domestic prices are not in dollars.


    I specifically converted the amounts to the national currencies of Russia and Ukraine to clearly show the difference. The hryvnia fell in the same way as the ruble. In addition, if we take the hryvnia to the dollar exchange rate of 8 hryvnia per dollar in 2013 and 27 hryvnia per dollar in 2021, it turns out that the budget of the Crimea in 2013 was 0.5 billion dollars, and in 2021 is a little more than $2 billion. That is, even for idiots who are used to measuring the size of non-dollar economies in dollars, it will be obvious that the Crimea is many times more wealthy as part of Russia.
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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Jun 22, 2021 2:01 am

    franco wrote:Full reservoirs: How Crimea's water problem was resolved in a few days

    It looks like the "water" problem of the Crimea is being solved in a natural way. Due to the abundance of rainfall last week, local reservoirs quickly filled with water. On Wednesday and Thursday, the rains on the peninsula were so strong that the issue of water supply to the Crimeans was closed....

    I have a feeling that God/Karma/Fate/Cosmos might hate the Ukraine lol1

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