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    Post  VARGR198 Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:39 pm

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    Post  Arrow Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:23 pm


    Laughing Laughing
    Prigozhin and his tales.

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    Post  Werewolf Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:32 pm

    Prigozhin is the biggest troll and his Shovel performance is indeed remarkable as it fooled a lot of people which resulted in many dead Ukrops, but there are still people like Arrow and our Spaniard who believe his words.

    Edit: Our funny Spaniard might not believe it but nobody understands what game he tries to play. He is not stupid but he switches sides like a true Ukrainian who's pockets have been filled.

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    Post  Arrow Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:51 pm

    , but there are still people like Arrow wrote:

    I laugh at his stories that have nothing to do with reality

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    Post  Hole Wed Jun 21, 2023 9:48 pm

    Latvia, five helicopters
    I read somewhere they got four.  lol1

    T-90M survives...
    If you look closely you can see that at least one of the mines explodes in front of the tank.
    There is some "jamming" system that can trigger some sorts of electronic fuzes. EMT?

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Jun 21, 2023 10:15 pm

    The electromagnetic trail is my first guess.

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    Post  Kiko Wed Jun 21, 2023 10:54 pm

    Putin: Foreign tanks and armored vehicles in Ukraine are burning "beautifully", 06.21.2023.

    By June 21, 245 Ukrainian tanks and some 678 armored vehicles of various types had already been destroyed, the president noted.

    Among the weapons of the Ukrainian Armed Forces that have been destroyed are many foreign vehicles that are burning "beautifully," Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Wednesday.

    "Of course, there are the Leopards, French wheeled armored vehicles, American armored vehicles. There's everything. They are burning beautifully," the president said ironically, responding to a journalist's question about the situation on the front line.

    "It is well known that the Ukrainian armed forces launched it [the counter-offensive] on June 4, using a strategic reserve. Oddly enough, a certain calm is observed at the moment. This is due to the fact that the enemy is suffering serious losses, both in personnel and equipment," Putin continued.

    By June 21, 245 Ukrainian tanks and some 678 armored vehicles of various types had already been destroyed, the president noted.

    "It seems that the enemy is combining brigades that have suffered serious losses with new units to restore combat effectiveness," he opined.

    Yandex Translate from Spanish

    https://actualidad.rt.com/actualidad/470801-putin-equipamento-extranjero-ucrania-arder-lindo

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    Post  Ispan Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:06 pm

    Compilation of reports of past week fighting

    https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2023/06/21/noticias-de-la-guerra-del-15-al-20-de-junio/

    there are also a lot of analysis and summaries posted in previous entries, check them out

    Tomorrow I leave for a holiday in Crimea with my Russian family, for a month, hope everything goes well and the railtrack is not blown up and missiles aren't fired at our seaside resort

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:14 am

    You will be fine Ispan, you have ferries, roads, trains leading in and out

    And you have the best air defense there now

    Rest easy friend , the enemy is still fixing his ass far away from you

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Thu Jun 22, 2023 4:07 am

    today is 22/06/2023 ...  82 years ago another European integrator wanted to bring western  rules based order to USSR.  His free pluralistic media called it


    Kreuzzug Europas gegen den Bolschewismus
    (EUropean crusade against Putinizm Bolshevism).


    Death of million of people.. unbelievable tragedy luckily with happy ending... I believe in happy ending now too ;-)

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    Post  Godric Thu Jun 22, 2023 4:38 am

    Ispan wrote:Compilation of reports of past week fighting

    https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2023/06/21/noticias-de-la-guerra-del-15-al-20-de-junio/

    there are also a lot of analysis and summaries posted in previous entries, check them out

    Tomorrow I leave for a holiday in Crimea with my Russian family, for a month, hope everything goes well and the railtrack is not blown up and missiles aren't fired at our seaside resort


    i hope you and your family have a great holiday in Crimea

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Thu Jun 22, 2023 6:49 am

    Looks like O group is pushing into Kharkov

    Rumors of a large counteroffensive along the Oskol and a cordon sanitaire 100km deep, meaning Kharkov is on the menu

    In any case it's the only way to approach slavyansk , instead of gnashing through Konstantinovka, kramatorsk, and that whole fortified area, its better to turn petropavlovka, liman, Kupyansk and bound Slavyansk to the north, as it was originally before the battle of Bakhmut started

    In any case VDV is pushing, and wagner is beginning to appear in Kharkov with the Chechens

    A mother of all battles is gonna take place there, as the ukro oink fest is out of steam and zelensky is pulling all his forces to Svatovo-Kremenaya-Valuyki

    Wagner will want to show their worth, this should be a brutal but fast action in the area

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Jun 22, 2023 6:59 am

    GarryB wrote:

    I have not seen any Ukrainian or US equivalents but the Russian dummies are usually inflatable so they can be set up rapidly and moved around if needed and a single truck with a compressor and a stack of "balloons" can carry large numbers of fake vehicles instead of just one or two.

    Dummies are quite common, but Ukr ones are made "with sticks&shit" as Russkie are saying Laughing

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    It would work 20 years ago, but hardly now.

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    Post  nomadski Thu Jun 22, 2023 7:11 am

    The Bolgorod region to be protected best and most efficient way , is in my opinion , in need of a DMZ inside Ukrs territory along the border with Russia , to a depth that puts artillery strikes beyond reach . That is all . 100 km DMZ , may put some Rocket artillery out of range , but not all . The Orcs , will simply fire from longer ranges with NATO supplied weapons . What is to be done , if say they fire from Lvov ? Should Russia advance to Lvov ? Or they fire from New York ? Advance across Atlantic Ocean ? No ! Not efficient ! Best just reply with missiles and Air- power , until the Orcs get tired of hitting civilian targets . Peskov said " ...Russia to advance to cover range of weapons being fired , " but I think too difficult and inefficient way of suppression of fire . Best concentrate on liberation of LDPR in centre , then see if Orcs and NATO will agree to cease-fire , possibly withdrawing forces from Russian regions ......

    @Alamo

    Good post ! Every hunter knows , how to track a prey . By the size of foot- print and broken branches and scat an animal leaves behind ! An Elephant leaves heavy prints compared to a Mouse ! About statistical analysis of fake objects along the front , this must be a secret , since the Orcs , may supply skewed data to confuse . But it is difficult in the long run .

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    Post  RTN Thu Jun 22, 2023 7:23 am

    GarryB wrote:They mention ARH seekers, but I would think a mix of ARH, IIR, and command guided would allow the best performance in terms of a range of threats and conditions where each guidance method would allow the best intercept performance... radar, IIR, Lidar and colour night vision digital video sensors would allow detection and engagement of the widest range of targets and threats.
    You want ARH, IIR, comman guidance and yet you want these SAMs to come cheap? What do you smoke.
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    Post  GarryB Thu Jun 22, 2023 8:11 am

    Also, how does one "rethink" a country? Woke western education is doing a number on these soft headed politicians.

    Rethinking a country suggests the concept of the country was flawed to begin with... there is no evidence the Ukraine needs to be a country in the first place.

    The people creating it are evil and deserve no memorial to their evil.

    Blackrock gets half a trillion dollar deal to “rebuild” Ukraine. What a spontaneous & shocking "coincidence".

    Like Haliburton had the contract to rebuild Iraq... with Dick Cheney on the board of directors I seem to remember...

    Slush fund for western suckers... to donate hard earned cash to criminals in the west that created the war in the first place...

    If you look closely you can see that at least one of the mines explodes in front of the tank.
    There is some "jamming" system that can trigger some sorts of electronic fuzes. EMT?

    They have various mine plows and mine rollers that include EM emitters for dealing with command detonated mines (that the rollers and ploughs wont set off).

    Sometimes they can set off RPG rockets and some ATGMs prematurely if they approach from the front too with a piezio electric fuse.

    It would work 20 years ago, but hardly now.

    Ironically the best way to hide real gear would be to make it look like a dummy from sticks and stuff.

    Fortunately the Russians aren't stupid and they also seem to have so many different ways of hitting Orc stuff that even if they are not sure they could hit it anyway cause their weapons are cheap and plentiful... never something a western supported force could ever say.

    Not efficient ! Best just reply with missiles and Air- power , until the Orcs get tired of hitting civilian targets .

    They have been shelling civilian targets for the better part of a decade now and show no signs of getting tired... after this big offensive has burned out Russian forces can take advantage and move forward in multiple places... the Orcs wont have enough forces to stop them in one place let alone several at once... if their forces don't surrender or run away they will most likely die in fighting which will weaken the rear areas who are more likely to surrender than want to fight.

    You want ARH, IIR, comman guidance and yet you want these SAMs to come cheap? What do you smoke.

    They are already making ARH with AESA antennas which are quite small in the missiles we are talking about... a fighter radar is going to be a metre across with thousands of elements, but a missile of the size we are talking about is only a couple of centimetres across... maybe 60 or 70 so the number of radar elements it will use is perhaps a few hundred at most and with full mass production of AESA radars their cost will come down to a few dollars per element.

    CCD IIR sensors are also essentially stamped out CCD chips operating in IR frequencies and will also become cheap once mass production kicks in, and command guided missiles are already in use... both TOR and Pantsir SAMs use command guidance because it is super cheap in terms of the missiles.

    The problem with the Javelin was corruption... they designed and introduced it into production before the thermals were cheap so it was expensive and has remained expensive when it should be cheap...

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    Post  Big_Gazza Thu Jun 22, 2023 8:44 am

    GarryB wrote:

    Blackrock gets half a trillion dollar deal to “rebuild” Ukraine. What a spontaneous & shocking "coincidence".

    Like Haliburton had the contract to rebuild Iraq... with Dick Cheney on the board of directors I seem to remember...

    Slush fund for western suckers... to donate hard earned cash to criminals in the west that created the war in the first place...

    ..except the "new owners" will be canceling any unauthorised contacts issued by the "previous adminsitration", and they won't be granting compensation to those Western capital interests who may be adversely affected. Twisted Evil

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    Post  Podlodka77 Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:38 am

    Good morning Vietnam...  Very Happy

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    AFU on German Leopards launch offensive at Orekhov on Zaporozhye front

    By nightfall, Ukrainian militants began to concentrate forces ahead of an offensive on the Orekhov direction at the Novodanilovka-Rabotino line, RV Voenkory reported.

    ▪NATO armoured vehicles drove like taxis, moving infantry to the front lines of the attack, then fighting began.

    ▪Around 4:00, supported by artillery, German Leopard tanks and other NATO armoured vehicles, the enemy went on the offensive again.

    ▪Our guys met them with fire, immediately destroying some of the combat equipment, some of it was blown up on mines.

    ▪The fighting lasted many hours, several waves of attacks were repelled, about a dozen vehicles were destroyed: tanks, including "Leopards" and various NATO armored vehicles.

    ▪Soldiers of 291 and 70 regiments, special forces, artillerymen and mobilized guys from Moscow and region held all the lines again.

    https://t.me/Slavyangrad/51774

    My addition to the text; 22 June 2023 and German tanks against the Russians, again..
    What symbolism and reminder of June 22, 1941..


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    Post  nomadski Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:47 am



    GarryB wrote " They have been shelling civilian targets for the better part of a decade now and show no signs of getting tired .. " The Orcs took the fight into the LDPR , while their home ground in the western Ukr and Kiev was untouched by fighting . IMHO , their home ground ( The Nazis) still not being ploughed thoroughly . I think every Nazi Orc leader and supporter is fair game , even stupid ones like Jellyinsky . The list of Orcs and Orc supporters must be known to security , their houses and meeting places and offices are all legitimate targets . Hit these for a decade , and they will either all die or get tired .

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:16 am

    Gore warning.

    https://t.me/intelslava/49100

    Just some retaken Ukr stronghold. Corpses rotting everywhere.

    First of all, they do not extract bodies, which is kind of a norm.
    Second, this leg bones meaning is quite clear, some animals were celebrating.
    Third, the comments are very interesting.
    Guy in a background summons his colleague who is walking on a dead body to "show some respect to the fallen".
    They comment a fact that those guys have been left behind, and actually express pity for their senseless death.

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    Post  Serberus Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:22 am

    Ka-52’s have been tearing the Wehrmacht a new ahole recently…
    There have been so many I have lost count but pretty sure this compilation is new.
    https://t.me/swodki/274517

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