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    Post  Serberus Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:54 am

    PapaDragon wrote:

    MEDIA TOO BIG VIEW IN TELEGRAM


    Fúck off with these bullshit links already, either post proper content or don't waste server space

    Retards can't even code basic video streaming

    They can get that shit off GitHub if they are too retarded to do it themselves

    What kind of morons even use Telegram? It makes Twitter look functional



    I was able to view this  on the telegram app from my iPad , iPhone, windows 11 work pc and my Mac.  I have also watched much larger content again without issues.

    Clearly its your setup, not TG
    Also you can ignore it and move on instead of bitching, TG has its issue but provides the best content out there without a doubt

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    Post  lancelot Wed Jun 21, 2023 4:23 am

    Some of us do not want to provide World Economic Forum sellouts like Pavel Durov with our private phone number and entire message history. And if you believe they protect your identity, personal details, or private messages, in any way you are quite naive.

    One big proof of where his loyalties lie is how he went out of his way to prevent the Russian government from blocking discussion threads on VK which were being used to organize civil disturbances to try to do a color revolution in Russia, while bending over backwards to censor discussions the EU and US do not want on Telegram. Like in the US Capitol siege. Or banning RT and Sputnik channels in the EU. He clearly has double standards.

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    Post  GarryB Wed Jun 21, 2023 5:06 am

    That's a fake Tor, they just reproduce external apparence. And the turret must be 20kg if not less so it doesn't need much support but that little part in the middle.

    No way... it would bobble around like a bobble hat in the wind... that is a photoshop mistake, not a real model.

    How could it remain perfectly level.... the simple answer is that it wouldn't... it would bobble around like a bobble head.

    It is clearly made of metal and even if it was metal foil... which it isn't because it would flex like a balloon... it will be more than 20kgs... the search radar and tracking radar are modeled accurately and the other details are there too... the effort they have gone to it would probably have been easier to just use a real turret from a TOR system.... which Kiev has...

    The hovering bobble head is proof that someone is trying to fake something... that is not a genuine photo some guy in their car just snapped... which means it was more likely created as part of the propaganda machine trying to make it look like the US is getting value for money in this... hey we captured some of their secret stuff... their amazing stuff that will destroy our air forces... so maybe we might have a chance if we do go up against them one on one... in 50 years when we have learned from the TOR how to make decent air defence systems.

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    Post  sepheronx Wed Jun 21, 2023 5:08 am

    lancelot wrote:Some of us do not want to provide World Economic Forum sellouts like Pavel Durov with our private phone number and entire message history. And if you believe they protect your identity, personal details, or private messages, in any way you are quite naive.

    One big proof of where his loyalties lie is how he went out of his way to prevent the Russian government from blocking discussion threads on VK which were being used to organize civil disturbances to try to do a color revolution in Russia, while bending over backwards to censor discussions the EU and US do not want on Telegram. Like in the US Capitol siege. Or banning RT and Sputnik channels in the EU. He clearly has double standards.

    I pointed this out in the past too. TR1 was a huge proponent of him and people like him thought Russia is far worst off with that asshole gone.

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:20 am

    GarryB wrote:
    That's a fake Tor, they just reproduce external apparence. And the turret must be 20kg if not less so it doesn't need much support but that little part in the middle.

    No way... it would bobble around like a bobble hat in the wind... that is a photoshop mistake, not a real model.

    How could it remain perfectly level.... the simple answer is that it wouldn't... it would bobble around like a bobble head.

    I guess Isos is right.
    This looks like a steel construction, and the "turret" is a part of it assembled with welded steel bars - see some of them in the empty space below it.
    Sure it does not weight 20 kilos, tho Laughing
    But it is kind of overcomplicated for a battlefield dummy.
    I guess it's job is to imitate the shape, maybe for operators training or AI/auto tracking learning dunno
    For a while, those types of dummy targets are being painted with a paint that reflects the radar beam and heats up - steel or some specialised powder is mixed with the paint itself making a kind of reactive coating. So this thing looks like a real one if illuminated by the radar, and can emit sustainable heat the same way as the real one would. You just put an heat source where the engine is, and that makes the whole thing really hard to distinguish.
    Russkie were using rubber decoys painted with this kind of substance, and the radar transparent rubber turned into steel Laughing on th monitors.
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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:22 am

    Serberus wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:

    MEDIA TOO BIG VIEW IN TELEGRAM


    Fúck off with these bullshit links already, either post proper content or don't waste server space

    Retards can't even code basic video streaming

    They can get that shit off GitHub if they are too retarded to do it themselves

    What kind of morons even use Telegram? It makes Twitter look functional



    I was able to view this  on the telegram app from my iPad , iPhone, windows 11 work pc and my Mac.  I have also watched much larger content again without issues.

    Clearly its your setup, not TG
    Also you can ignore it and move on instead of bitching, TG has its issue but provides the best content out there without a doubt

    If you are dumb enough to install that dogshit app then it's your problem not mine

    If I didn't give away my data to Zuckerberg I sure as fùck won't be giving it away to his shitty impersonator Durov

    Morons can't even code basic video streaming, they have that shit for free on GitHub if they are too retarded to do it themselves


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    Post  Serberus Wed Jun 21, 2023 9:16 am

    Whatever PD, point is it works… if you don’t want to use it you can ignore it, no-one is forcing you to open the links.


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    Post  Mir Wed Jun 21, 2023 10:14 am

    ALAMO wrote:
    This looks like a steel construction, and the "turret" is a part of it assembled with welded steel bars - see some of them in the empty space below it.
    Sure it does not weight 20 kilos, tho Laughing
    But it is kind of overcomplicated for a battlefield dummy.

    My guess is that these are props for a Hollywood/Sean Penn production showing off the "great victory over the evil Russians in the epic battle for Moscow." Suspect

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    Post  Mir Wed Jun 21, 2023 10:24 am

    Frying Panza! Laughing

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    Post  nomadski Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:21 am

    I thought about using UV sensors in anti- ship BM , to measure speed of vessel , by length of foam water trailing by propeller . Since foam-water has less water and resonate different under UV , compared to still water ! Same procedure for tracking real / fake Tanks , as heavy real Tanks compact soil and drive out water , compared to surrounding soil . No good faking tracks by shallow soil disturbance , need heavy tracks for this , the real stuff . If heavy vehicle placed fake Tank , and left area , then UV tracks visible , leaving area . The real heavy stuff , will have UV tracks , leaving area . Tracks by heavy vehicle , can not be covered superficially either . Many ways to detect fakes and only needs thinking out of box . Better be ready , and Russia has technology for this . Better to know their intentions .

    https://journals.biologists.com/jeb/article/216/10/i/11534/PARADOX-OF-UV-VISION-IN-RAPTORS-RESOLVED


    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/B9780081028940000115


    Fakes can always be accurately diagnosed post- lancet-mortem . If enough lancets exist , to take out all heavy equipment , then less point doing early diagnosis , just inspect the debris with drones , out of curiosity , in the morgue ! Or do a sampling attack , on all equipment , to find out what percentage made of papier mache , before main attack !


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    Post  Hole Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:54 am

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:10 pm

    Hole wrote:
    lol!

    Remember that

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    Post  franco Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:37 pm

    DONETSK, June 20. /TASS/. More than 400 servicemen of the Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) remain in captivity in Ukraine, DPR ombudswoman Darya Morozova told TASS on Tuesday.

    "As of today, we know of about 421 DPR servicemen who are being kept in captivity in Ukraine," she said.

    According to Morozova, as many as 280 DPR soldiers have been released from Ukrainian captivity since the beginning of the special military operation. Some of them are back in the army, others are undergoing rehabilitation. "First, they receive medical assistance immediately after their release. After the initial medical examination, they are taken to the republic where they undergo a more thorough medical checkup and we decide about further assistance. If anyone needs another round of rehabilitation in other Russian regions, we arrange it," she said.

    She noted that practically everyone has some kind of psychological trauma after being held in Ukrainian captivity. "In Ukraine, they experience both physical and mental torture, psychological pressure. As for physical torture, we know that Ukraine has been doing this since 2014. And every year it gets more sophisticated," she said, adding that videos showing the torture of Russian soldiers can be found in social networks.

    https://tass.com/defense/1635587

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    Post  GarryB Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:49 pm

    I guess Isos is right.
    This looks like a steel construction, and the "turret" is a part of it assembled with welded steel bars - see some of them in the empty space below it.
    Sure it does not weight 20 kilos, tho Laughing
    But it is kind of overcomplicated for a battlefield dummy.

    Come on Alamo, there are about two things this could possibly be... the first is an amazing replica that is almost a perfect representation of a vehicle... except for some reason despite getting every visible feature PERFECT, they missed the turret ring... but not only that but this photo was taken from the perfect height to see the one imperfection of the model clearly.

    Or this is a photoshop collage of images that someone posted the almost ready version instead of the finished version that has a turret ring and looks perfect.

    I would say photoshop is looking the most reasonable because if you are paying someone to build a model of a vehicle they will generally make a terrible job or a great job and the ones that make the great job wont forget things like turret rings...

    I guess it's job is to imitate the shape, maybe for operators training or AI/auto tracking learning

    To make that think in actual metal would cost tens of thousands of dollars but the minor extra cost to make it look 100% real with a turret ring instead of 95% real without one suggests this is not real at all and is a digital fuckup.

    A bit like the video evidence of Su-27s ramming US drones with the damaged drone showing totally different markings from the drone in the original video with the Flanker in it.

    Do you think they would not fake it?

    For a while, those types of dummy targets are being painted with a paint that reflects the radar beam and heats up - steel or some specialised powder is mixed with the paint itself making a kind of reactive coating. So this thing looks like a real one if illuminated by the radar, and can emit sustainable heat the same way as the real one would. You just put an heat source where the engine is, and that makes the whole thing really hard to distinguish.

    I have not seen any Ukrainian or US equivalents but the Russian dummies are usually inflatable so they can be set up rapidly and moved around if needed and a single truck with a compressor and a stack of "balloons" can carry large numbers of fake vehicles instead of just one or two.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Wed Jun 21, 2023 1:44 pm

    They will, they will, just like I'm going to **** Charlize Theron....

    June 21, 13:11
    Military operation in Ukraine
    Blinken believes that Russia will have to pay for the restoration of Ukraine
    The US Secretary of State noted that while Western countries will help build the Ukrainian army

    "Russia will ultimately pay the costs of restoring Ukraine. Until then, we will continue to be with the people of Ukraine as they make the greatest sacrifices, defending, rebuilding, rethinking their country," he said on Wednesday, speaking to participants in the ongoing London conference on the restoration of Ukraine.

    The US Secretary of State also pointed out that all the reforms carried out by the Ukrainian authorities, and all efforts in the field of reconstruction of the country, depend on the ability of Kyiv to "deter and protect against future attacks from Russia."

    "Therefore, while we are investing in the reconstruction of Ukraine in the short and long term, we must also build a Ukrainian army that is strong enough to protect the sovereignty, territorial integrity and independence of Ukraine," Blinken added.

    The second conference on the restoration of Ukraine opened on Wednesday in London. More than 1,000 foreign guests from 61 countries, as well as representatives of non-governmental organizations and businesses, are expected to attend the two-day event, according to the Office of the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, Rishi Sunak.

    https://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/18077835




    June 21, 13:56
    Putin: Russia will form the production of UAVs that have proven themselves in combat conditions

    Russia will form the mass production of UAVs that have proven themselves in combat conditions - Putin.

    https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/18079359

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    Post  Broski Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:17 pm

    "Russia will ultimately pay the costs of restoring Ukraine. Until then, we will continue to be with the people of Ukraine as they make the greatest sacrifices, defending, rebuilding, rethinking their country,"
    Only the parts that will become Russian, including Odessa. The rest can fucking rot while begging the west for money.

    Also, how does one "rethink" a country? Woke western education is doing a number on these soft headed politicians.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:56 pm

    bounce  bounce  bounce  bounce

    June 21, 14:49
    Military operation in Ukraine
    Putin: among the destroyed equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine there is a foreign one that "burns for a sweet soul"
    https://tass.ru/politika/18079831

    * The Russian Armed Forces have destroyed 245 tanks and 678 armored vehicles since the beginning of the counteroffensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Putin said.
    https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/18079795

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    Post  Sujoy Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:58 pm

    Blackrock gets half a trillion dollar deal to “rebuild” Ukraine. What a spontaneous & shocking "coincidence".

    https://humanevents.com/2023/06/19/blackrock-jp-morgan-set-up-reconstruction-bank-for-ukraine

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    Post  ucmvulcan Wed Jun 21, 2023 4:24 pm

    Sujoy wrote:Blackrock gets half a trillion dollar deal to “rebuild” Ukraine. What a spontaneous & shocking "coincidence".

    https://humanevents.com/2023/06/19/blackrock-jp-morgan-set-up-reconstruction-bank-for-ukraine

    I am sure renters in America will be thrilled to know that their increase in rent protects the freedumbs of Nazi Banderastan

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    Post  Podlodka77 Wed Jun 21, 2023 4:48 pm

    ⚡Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation

    (21 June 2023)

    Part I

    ◽ The Ukrainian Armed Forces have continued their attempts to conduct offensive operations in South Donetsk, Zaporozhye, and Donetsk directions during the previous 24 hours.

    ◽ In the area of Vremenka salient, Operational-Tactical Aviation and Army Aviation launched an attack against AFU units near Novodonetskoye, Storozhevoye (DPR), Levadnoye (Zaporozhye region).

    ▫  As a result of the strikes, a tank, an infantry fighting vehicle, and three armoured fighting vehicles were annihilated.

    ◽ In Zaporozhye direction, two attacks by Ukrainian 65th mechanised brigade reinforced by tanks in the areas of Novodanilovka and Yablokovo (Zaporozhye region) were repelled by decisive and competent actions of Vostok Group of Forces, air strikes and artillery fire during the day.

    ▫ In addition, enemy reserve columns advancing towards Lobkovoye and Kamenskoye (Zaporozhye region) as well as a manpower and equipment cluster near Belogorye (Zaporozhye region) were engaged by gunfire.

    ◽ Three sabotage and reconnaissance groups were also eliminated close to Dorozhniyanka, Gulyai Pole, and Mirnoye (Zaporozhye region).

    ▫ Total enemy losses in South Donetsk and Zaporozhye directions overnight were up to 200 servicemen, eight tanks, six infantry fighting vehicles, 13 armoured fighting vehicles, three motor vehicles, two D-20 howitzers, two Msta-B howitzers, as well as one Gvozdika self-propelled howitzer, and one Grad MLRS fighting vehicle.

    ▫ In Donetsk direction, the Yug Group of Forces has successfully repelled ten enemy attacks close to Veseloye, Georgiyevka, Pervomayskoye, Krasnogorovka, Vodyanoye, and Marinka (DPR) during the past 24 hours.

    ▫ Up to 400 servicemen, a tank, two armoured fighting vehicles, and eight motor vehicles were destroyed during combat.

    ▫ In Kupyansk direction, aviation and artillery of the Zapad Group of Forces inflicted a fire damage on the units of the AFU close to Berestovoye, Kislovka (Kharkov region), Stelmakhovka (LPR).

    💥 In addition, actions of three sabotage and reconnaissance groups of the AFU were thwarted near Sinkovka, Kotlyarovka (Kharkov region) and Novoselovskoye (LPR).

    ◽ The enemy suffered over 40 servicemen, an armoured fighting vehicle, and two pick-up trucks in this direction during the day. A serviceman of the AFU surrendered.

    ◽ In Krasny Liman direction, Russian aviation, artillery, and heavy flamethrower systems of the Tsentr Group of Forces hit units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine close to Ploshchanka, Chervonopopovka, Chervonaya Dibrova (LPR), Yampolovka, and Grigorovka (DPR).

    ▫ Also during the day, actions of three Ukrainian sabotage and reconnaissance groups were foiled close to Chervonaya Dibrova (LPR) and in the Serebryansky forestry.

    ▫ Up to 135 servicemen, an infantry fighting vehicle, two armoured fighting vehicles, four pick-up trucks, a D-30 howitzer, and three Gvozdika self-propelled artillery units have been eliminated in this direction during the day. Eight servicemen of the AFU surrendered.

    ▫ In Kherson direction, over 60 servicemen, seven motor vehicles, one Akatsiya self-propelled system, two Msta-B howitzers, and one U.S.-made M777 artillery system have been destroyed over the past 24 hours.



    ⚡Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation

    (21 June 2023)

    Part II

    💥 Operational-Tactical and Army aviation, Missile Troops and Artillery of the Russian Group of Forces have engaged 117 AFU artillery units at their fire positions, manpower, and military hardware in 129 areas during the day.

    ▫ Also, ammunition depots of the 109th Territorial Defence Brigade, 44th Artillery and the 60th Mechanised brigades of the AFU have been destroyed near Novgorodskoye (DPR), Novopavlovka (Zaporozhye region), and Morohovets (Kharkov region).

    ▫ Moreover, a command post of the 128th Mountain Assault Brigade of the AFU was destroyed close to Zapasnoye (Zaporozhye region).

    ▫ Air defence forces have intercepted seven HIMARS and Uragan MLRS projectiles during the day.

    ▫ Moreover, 12 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles were shot down close to Lyubimovka, Zaporozhskoye, Perezhnoye (Zaporozhye region), Ploshchanka, Kremennaya (LPR), Volodino, and Blagoveshchenka (DPR).

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    Post  Tolstoy Wed Jun 21, 2023 4:52 pm

    NATO trained Ukrainian grandpas arrested. They belong to the 31st Brigade of the Strategic Reserve - the unit created by NATO specifically for the counter-offensive.



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    * 18:07 🇷🇺🇺🇦 Destruction of a Ukrainian tank in the Zaporozhye direction
    https://t.me/intelslava/49069

    * 18:08 🇷🇺🇺🇦 Destruction of Ukrainian infantry and equipment in Pyatikhatki, Zaporozhye region.
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    Post  Podlodka77 Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:56 pm

    What's your problem Walther ?
    Are you and MR HD in the same team ?
    Do you like Nazis ? unshaven

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:37 pm

    Podlodka, what's the problem mate?

    Edit: ok, I disliked your post by mistake. Sorry.

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