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    Post  GarryB Wed Jun 07, 2023 2:48 pm

    I don't think either side took out the dam, I heard the real suspected cause was mines that got washed down the stream from both sides trying to cover banks and enough of them just gathered and caused the collapse and that does make sense.

    The orcs controlled the water level at the dam that failed and they kept it over full on purpose... whether they actually blew up the dam or the old neglected dam failed, either way the flooding is on them because they controlled the water levels.

    Plus the hydro lake where the dam is located would not have mines in the water flow right down to the dam face where they could do damage to the dam, the water would flow down the river but when it reached the lake that is where the dam is located the mines would be deposited at the far end of the lake where the river water stops flowing and the lake begins.


    as i feared about the first part it's propaganda saying there are still fighting with no evidence and as i pointed out the 2nd part was utter nonsensical

    It is their style though... can't win a victory on the battlefield... win it on western media... or twitter...

    Those 2 tractors made russians spend 2 atgm.

    Those tractors are probably worth more than any of the Leopards they might get... and they will be foreign tractors so blow them up and when the war is over they can buy good solid soviet tractors from Belarus.

    The reason why Ukraine is able to continuously do these things (blow up the dam, shell Russian cities) is because Russia is not responding with the force it is capable of. In my books these acts are on Putin. He has been too soft from the start.

    He invaded the country and has killed a significant portion of their young men and destroyed their entire existing supply of weapons and ammo and bankrupted the country that now survives directly on handouts from HATO countries... what else do you expect him to do that would be effective?

    It he was more brutal that would play into western propaganda hands and would be a chance for Kiev to say they were the nice guys in comparison.

    Russia can't speed up the conflict by being totally ruthless like the US that would starve and freeze the civilian population by now... that would win the conflict but as we have seen in all of the conflicts they have been involved recently it will lose them the peace... which is worth more in the end.

    Funny all the people in the west complaining Putin is not enough like Stalin when it comes to brutality in war...

    Ironic even.

    Thinking the Ukronazis will sue for peace due to high losses or that the anglo nazis will be deterred to further escalation if Russia keeps the gloves on is pure delusion. The exact opposite has been happening and will continue to happen.

    There is no negotiating peace with the current nazis in Kiev, but whoever is in charge then will have to talk peace when support from the west collapses or fades away... in the mean time slapping back Orc attacks and grinding up the new super forces they have worked so hard to put together fills the time.

    It would be better for Russia if they get time to take rather more of the south of Ukraine so peace talks can be talked about but as Russia has learned from the west... talk of peace talks can fill in time while Russia achieves its goals in the country... the suffering of Ukraine can be ignored the way the suffering of the Donbass and Lugansk was ignored by Kiev and the west.

    Russia knows Kiev does not care about peace or how many of their soldiers die on the front line but there is always a chance a few of those trained soldiers might choose a different fate and either change sides or perhaps even just have a real coup and get rid of the foreign controlled puppets in their own country destroying that country and then perhaps they can talk on real terms about their own future and the future of what is left of their country.

    Ukraine will sue for peace only when Western dorks are unwilling to foot the bill anymore, and this moment is coming sooner than later.

    Even Biden might change his tune if he realises his chances of a second term are reduced by this conflict continuing, so he might cut the funding and support before the next election in a bid to hold on to power.

    Other elections are taking place too around the EU...

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    Post  Ispan Wed Jun 07, 2023 4:08 pm

    Long article on infantry tactics, published in February, I translated it, edited and added comments, the automatic translation to English is quite a hard read, the link to the original Russian source is at the beginning

    https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2023/06/07/tacticas-de-infanteria/

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    Post  Scorpius Wed Jun 07, 2023 5:20 pm

    Regular wrote:Oops, so it seems those Leopards destroyed were combine tractors, but these hits are on point
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    Hits against real military targets 


    https://twitter.com/Mykorola/status/1666103807934095360?s=20

    It could have been any of them:
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    The fact that you drag delusional stories from Ukrainian public sites here says a lot about you. What the **** are harvesters in the field at the beginning of June?

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    Post  Serberus Wed Jun 07, 2023 6:06 pm

    Footage quality is not good enough to determine anything for sure, I am not a fan of releasing poor quality vids to make any type of claims. I am sure the western tanks will be destroyed soon enough and we will get decent proof with it.

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    Post  limb Wed Jun 07, 2023 6:11 pm

    Ispan wrote:Long article on infantry tactics, published in February, I translated it, edited and added comments, the automatic translation to English is quite a hard read, the link to the original Russian source is at the beginning

    https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2023/06/07/tacticas-de-infanteria/
    Then why cant russia move around that "deadly area" through sumy or zaporozhie. Theres no high massive high rises, factories, mines and terricones there.
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Wed Jun 07, 2023 7:39 pm

    VSU has begun attacking from Orekhov, and Gulyaipolye

    The real offensive has begun

    20k Ukrainians in this sector alone, and KA52 is working

    This is the main point of attack for Ukraine here, to breakthrough to Tokmak

    Reports of the first wave - eliminated

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:05 pm

    To those who state air force is useless:

    Absolutely wrong

    Something interesting, is the effectiveness of Vikhr,

    Vikhr outranges avenger by more then 5-6 km

    But due to the use of the VKS, the Ukrainians no longer have Buk to use with assault forces

    Months of FAB strikes, Geran, Lancet, Kh31, have attrited the BUK stocks of Ukros

    This means their offensive has no mobile air defense to hold off KA52,

    And we see the result - I would not use tanks on this offensive, if I am Ukro command, I would retain what tanks i have as fire support for defensive positions -

    Also , we saw Su27, su24, su25 of Ukraine shot down that could have supported Ukro jihadists - work of the VKS

    It is the VKS which is stopping this offensive, and the Russian army is still sitting pretty

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:10 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:I don't think either side took out the dam, I heard the real suspected cause was mines that got washed down the stream from both sides trying to cover banks and enough of them just gathered and caused the collapse and that does make sense.

    Makes sense Ukraine would try to use it has a PR move, This is war you will use anything you can get.


    Highly unlikely. It covers a large section of the front-lines between the 2 sides, has been shelled by the Ukraine before, and right now at the start of a major offensive by the Ukrainians, it just happens to blow up? Of course it's the result of deliberate action.

    Moreover if the Ukrainians now launch their offensive against Pridnestrovie, which could be their real plan for all we know, Russian forces will have a harder time advancing to there.

    Except Ukraine took heavy equipment losses and lost some manpower due to the blow, so did Russia. So nice try

    If this were a purposeful attack, they would have followed up right away and they haven't the Russians are already making new trenches along the line. And Ukraine is trying to regroup the effected Units and hasn't moved any new forces to the area

    So no, there is nothing that points to be being done on purpose.
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    Post  Mir Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:13 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:Reports of the first wave - eliminated

    Probably just another (failed) "reccon" Laughing

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    Post  Regular Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:27 pm

    Another KA-52 footage, seems to be 3 tanks


    https://t.me/gzvonews/6548

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    Alligators working with impunity. Neither UA armor nor agricultural machines are safe 😁

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:29 pm

    @Trollstoy88
    AFU offensive on Zaporozhye front:
    Ukrainian tanks are on fire en masse near Orekhov.
    After combat reconnaissance and artillery preparation, the enemy led several armored groups along the route near the city of Orekhov towards Tokmak.
    Attacks in Rabotino and Belogorye areas.
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    @Animosteles
    AFU deployed the forces of 4 brigades of the 10th Army Corps for offensive operations in the direction of Orekhov - Tokmak - Melitopol.
    -Composition: 115, 116, 117, 118 Brigades
    - Up to 20k, up to 90 tanks, up to 180 AFVs, up to 120 MLRS, up to 80 field artillery guns&mortars

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    Post  Hole Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:43 pm

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    Around Novodonetskoye, yesterday.

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    Post  Hole Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:46 pm

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    Abandoned tanks near Tavolzhanka

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:56 pm

    That said for the russians this is one defense they have to hold, Ukraine taking a few small towns would be expected IMO, but if the get to far down south then that's not good, the russians have to hold here at all costs.

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    Post  Hole Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:02 pm

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    Post  Mir Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:03 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:That said for the russians this is one defense they have to hold, Ukraine taking a few small towns would be expected IMO, but if the get to far down south then that's not good, the russians have to hold here at all costs.

    Despite all the help from NATzo this is nothing but a suicide mission.
    On the upside - at least this will be helpful towards the Slavic gene pool.

    How are things holding up in Little Odessa?

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:05 pm



    EDIT

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    Nova Kakhovka dam update:

    The situation downstream has visibly worsened, particularly for residents on the east bank of the river. Sentinel-3 satellite image taken today also shows the massive amount of water flowing up the Inhulets River.


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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:09 pm

    UA losses seem catastrophic at the moment. Similar to the Kherson turkey shoot last year, but possibly bigger even.



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    Post  JohninMK Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:11 pm

    These Gepards are 3 years old and in Qatar. Their ammo is included. They will now buy a new machine. Salesmen have already booked flights Laughing

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    All 15 Gepards have been resold to Germany the Systems were originally purchased for 31 million USD and Have been resold for 64 million USD in other words we got a deal.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:18 pm

    That is a great deal.
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    Post  Regular Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:20 pm

    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:UA losses seem catastrophic at the moment. Similar to the Kherson turkey shoot last year, but possibly bigger even.




    Visually confirmed losses- bigger. Manpower losses should be large as per 1st and 2nd hand accounts. Scale of this “recce” operation is much bigger and Russians are much better prepared

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:30 pm

    Watching today's portion, I would say Vichr gives a fuk if you are a tractor or a tank Laughing

    Edit : https://t.me/gzvonews/6548

    0:14 : priviet iz Niznogo Novogroda, suchka.

    It seems some common call ...

    Laughing Laughing

    And remember boys, this is how a successful offensive ... ekhm, pardon my French, recon by force, looks like ...

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    You just leave all the stuff, you know. To show the scale of success.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:42 pm

    And what if Russia conducts an offensive in the direction of Kharkov, Sumy, Chernigov or even Kiev ?
    None of you (neither do I) know how many and where Russia has deployed soldiers.
    You only know what some analysts say on YouTube and what some amateur from the Telegram channel writes to you - that's all.
    Although it is better that the Ukroshitstanians go ahead and perish like turkeys than that the Russians do that..

    And once again I would write NAZI Pact or NATO/NAZI Pact because it is more effective than NATzO Pact.. thumbsup

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    Post  Godric Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:57 pm

    Regular wrote:Oops, so it seems those Leopards destroyed were combine tractors, but these hits are on point
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    Hits against real military targets 


    https://twitter.com/Mykorola/status/1666103807934095360?s=20

    way to early in the year to be harvesting wheat or anything else in Europe only certain fruits and veg are harvested at this time of the year, i would expect late august early september as harvesting time

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    Post  Regular Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:19 pm

    Yes, it’s not a harvest time, but all of this could be abandoned, it’s close to front lines.

    Anyways, no point to argue when 42 vehicles confirmed. Probably much more offscreen. Not everything is published or filmed.

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