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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sun Apr 02, 2023 10:01 pm

    I mean guys are being killed everyday so at the end of the day, Tatarsky easily could have been in this situation when he was fighting with the militias

    Given his background, he's lucky to have survived the first round of fighting anyway

    He was a bank robber , who served prison time, when the ATO reached his prison he escaped and took up weapons fighting in donbass

    Then he became some kind of war correspondent

    The guys analysis was from the eyes of a coal mining , militia guy

    He was close to the conflict but he didn't really know anything that the MOD or General Staff did, much less even officers in the military

    Tatarsky was like Dugina, a target of opportunity which in the end, changes nothing

    While sad, Tatarsky and Dugina while metaphysical experts at blogging and reporting on the situation, were definitely not the brains of the SMO or even any real Kremlin contacts

    It's sort of like killing random banderites , they don't really hold any importance, it's just bragging rights for people on the fringes of the conflict

    ** now they're saying some girl from anti war groups in Russia handed the figurine to this other chick who might of known or not what this would lead to

    The anti war liberals are just that - irrelevant people who take their frustrations out on a guy like Tatarsky but in general on the fringes of anything important

    Is it terror ? Yes, but there is a conflict happening on the border, which hasn't been cleared, so as a citizen be vigilant and aware of surroundings, and try to avoid these gatherings until the Armed forces can get a handle on Ukraine and push them away from the border


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    Post  Backman Sun Apr 02, 2023 10:04 pm

    Kiev has denied the attack and they are telling the truth. This stuff is hatched at the US embassy by the CIA. The US embassy should be kinzaled. But some say that's an "act of war". No it isn't.

    It is still a national insult and should be answered.

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    Post  Backman Sun Apr 02, 2023 10:24 pm

    This woman was just a CIA mule. She is injured and in custody. She could have been told that it had a long timer in it ot that it was just poison.

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Sun Apr 02, 2023 10:35 pm

    Another woman has apparently been detained.
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    Post  JohninMK Sun Apr 02, 2023 11:30 pm

    Summary of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the progress of a special military operation (02.04.2023)

    ◽ In the Kupyansk direction, army air strikes and artillery fire of the Western Group of Forces defeated Ukrainian armed forces units in the areas of Sinkovka, Olshany and Krakhmalnoye in Kharkiv Oblast.

    💥 Up to 30 Ukrainian servicemen, three armored fighting vehicles, two vehicles, as well as a D-30 howitzer were destroyed during the day. In addition, the actions of six Ukrainian sabotage and reconnaissance groups were suppressed in the areas of Stelmakhivka of the Luhansk People's Republic, Dvurechnaya, Pershotravneve, and Sinkovka of the Kharkiv region.

    ◽ In the Krasno-Limansky direction, strikes by assault and army aviation, artillery fire, heavy flamethrower systems and active actions of units of the Center troop group struck enemy units in the areas of Yampolovka, Hryhorovka of the Donetsk People's Republic, Makiivka and Chervona Dibrova of the Luhansk People's Republic.

    💥 The enemy's losses amounted to up to 100 Ukrainian servicemen, two armored combat vehicles, four pickup trucks, an Acacia self-propelled howitzer, and one D-30 howitzer.

    ◽ In the Donetsk direction as a result of active actions of units of the "Southern" group of troops, strikes of operational-tactical aviation and artillery fire, over 210 Ukrainian servicemen and mercenaries, three Turkish-made Kirpi armored personnel carriers, three armored combat vehicles, four vehicles, three pickups, as well as one Msta-B howitzer were destroyed during the day.

    ◽ On the South Donetsk and Zaporizhzhya directions, air strikes and artillery fire of the Vostok Group of Forces hit AFU units near the settlements of Shevchenko in the Donetsk People's Republic, Levadnoye and Orekhov in the Zaporizhzhya region.

    💥 In addition, two sabotage and reconnaissance groups of the Ukrainian armed forces were destroyed near Nikolskoye, Donetsk People's Republic, and Vyshneve, Zaporizhzhia region.

    💥 More than 40 Ukrainian servicemen, two armored vehicles, three pickup trucks, a D-30 howitzer and a D-20 howitzer were destroyed in these areas over the past 24 hours.

    💥 Also, a US-made AN/TPQ-36 counter-battery radar station was destroyed near the village of Uspenovka, Zaporozhye region.

    ◽ In the Kherson direction, up to 15 Ukrainian servicemen, seven vehicles and one Akatsiya self-propelled howitzer were destroyed in the course of firing.

    💥 Operational-tactical and army aviation, missile troops and artillery of groups of troops (forces) of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation during the day struck 92 artillery units of the AFU at firing positions, manpower and equipment in 103 areas.

    💥 A warehouse of artillery ammunition of the AFU was destroyed near the settlement of Stelmakhovka in the Luhansk People's Republic.

    💥 The command post and communications center of the 58th AFU motorized infantry brigade were hit near Krasny Liman in Donetsk People's Republic.

    💥 The command and observation posts of battalions of the 109th Territorial Defense Brigade and the 25th Airborne Brigade of the AFU were hit near Petrovske and Terny settlements of the Donetsk People's Republic.

    ◽ The anti-aircraft defense forces destroyed 11 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles in the areas of Vladimirovka, Kirillovka, Verhnetoretske of the Donetsk People's Republic, Novokrasnyanka, Varvarovka, Kreminna of the Luhansk People's Republic and Novaya Kakhovka of the Kherson Region, Velyki Vyselki of the Kharkiv Region.

    📊 In total, since the beginning of the special military operation destroyed (losses over previous 24hrs(+?)):
    405 aircraft, (Daily avg 1.1)
    228 helicopters, (Daily avg 0.6)
    3,641(+11) unmanned aerial vehicles, (Daily avg 8.9)
    415 surface-to-air missile systems, (Daily avg 1.1)
    8,510(+13) tanks and other armored combat vehicles, (Daily avg 21.Cool
    1,077 multiple rocket launchers, (Daily avg 2.Cool
    4,485(+7) field artillery and mortars, (Daily avg 11.4) and
    9,270(+23) special military vehicles. (Daily avg 23.3)

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    Post  Backman Sun Apr 02, 2023 11:34 pm

    Prigozhin (owner of wagner PMC), who has disappeared from the air since Friday, has reappeared. With good news: BAKHMUT IS TAKEN

    “April 2, 2023, 23:00. We hoisted the Russian flag with the inscription "Good memory to Vladlen Tatarsky" and the flag of PMC "Wagner" on the city administration of Bakhmut. Legally Bakhmut is taken. The enemy is concentrated in the western regions

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    Post  PhSt Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:24 am

    ^ The culprit was a CIA mule. What's the difference ? Why are prominent Russians having these gatherings in public anyway ?

    Good, in this case, a retaliatory bomb blast needs to happen in American soil.


    Russia's response to this terrorist attack needs to be prompt and horrific in order to send a strong signal to both NATO and Ukrainian perpetrators.


    The retaliatory response will have two components, A direct strike in Kiev, and another indirect strike in NATO territory.


    The strike in Ukranian territory will be more straightforward, lob a couple of FOBS, Thermobaric or Kinzhals in decision-making centers in Kiev, wipe out a couple of Ukranian politicians or government figures in near and far away regions. The purpose of the strike is to remind the Ukrainians that Russia has the capability to kill anyone in Ukraine if the Russians wish to.



    The second part of the retaliation will be similar to the attack in Saint Petersburg today. A bomb blast, that will target and decapitate a prominent Western/ NATO Pro Ukraine media figure.

    I made a quick list of possible targets, of course, more can be added to the decapitation list. Perhaps members of propaganda outlets like the Atlantic council, Bellingcat, etc are fair targets
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    A bomb attack in Washington, New York, London or any major NATO capital will be enough to give a reminder that Russia is willing to resort to the same dirty tactics by the West and that any further escalation on part of NATO will be met with a similar and more devastating response from Russia.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:41 am

    Looks like Prigozhin has planted the Wagner flag over city center

    Bakhmut is taken

    Wagner chief declares ‘Bakhmut captured’
    Evgeny Prigozhin dedicated the “formal” seizure of the key Donbass city to a killed Russian war blogger

    attack attack attack

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    Post  Kiko Mon Apr 03, 2023 1:38 am

    T'was Kyrylo Oleksyovitch Budanov, chief of the Main Directorate of Intelligence of the Ministry of Defence of Ukraine, with his signature once again:

    The flag of Russia was hoisted over the administration of Artemovsk, 04.02.2023.

    Prigozhin announced the raising of the Russian flag over the administration of Artemovsk in the DPR.

    MOSCOW, April 3 - RIA Novosti. A Russian flag was hoisted over the administration of Artemovsk in the DPR with the inscription "Good memory to Vladlen Tatarsky," Yevgeny Prigozhin, founder of the Wagner group, said.

    Prigozhin's comment was published in the Telegram channel of his press service.

    "On April 2, 2023, at 11:00 p.m., we hoisted the Russian flag with the inscription "Vladlen Tatarsky has a good memory" and the flag of the PMC "Wagner" on the city administration of Artemovsk. Legally, Artemovsk was taken," he said.

    At the same time, Prigozhin noted that "the enemy is still concentrated in the western districts of the city."

    On Sunday in St. Petersburg , in a cafe on Universitetskaya embankment, an explosion thundered, one person died - war correspondent Vladlen Tatarsky (real name - Maxim Fomin). According to the Russian Ministry of Health, another 30 people were injured, 24 of them were hospitalized. A RIA Novosti source reported that the explosive device was brought, presumably, by one of the visitors to the evening, in the box there was a figurine - a gift to Tatarsky. A case was initiated under the article on murder in a generally dangerous way.

    Artemovsk is located north of the large city of Gorlovka . It is an important transport hub for supplying the Ukrainian group of troops in the Donbass . Fierce battles have been going on outside the city for more than six months. The supply of the enemy grouping in Artemovsk, which is in operational encirclement, goes through the town of Chasov Yar.

    https://ria.ru/20230403/flag-1862536227.html

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    Post  Belisarius Mon Apr 03, 2023 1:51 am

    To Those Who Worry About "Optics".
    I am talking about the assassination of military blogger Vladlen Tatarsky.

    "An explosion that rocked the ‘Street Bar’ café in St. Petersburg, Russia on Sunday has claimed at least one life and left 19 people injured, authorities reported. Vladlen Tatarsky (real name Maksim Fomin), a military correspondent and blogger, was killed in the incident, according to emergency services. Tatarsky joined the Donbass militias back in 2014 in the wake of the Maidan coup in Kiev. He has since become known in Russia as a blogger and a correspondent reporting on the situation in the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics. Tatarsky has also authored several books."

    Before lamenting "bad optics" and jumping to the conclusions, including knee jerk reaction--how predictable--and calls for "flattening Kiev", how about letting FSB deal with it first. Secondly, and most important, before anyone starts comparing late Daria Dugina to this "blogger", they better get acquainted with his biography, including why he ended up in prison for robbery. But for people in the West who sympathize with early LDNR militias it must be understood that apart from heroism and dedication, corruption, money laundering and other unsightly things have been blooming in LDNR too. With the start of SMO, a huge number of military "correspondents" and bloggers, many of them originally from new Russia's oblasts, started to dominate "narratives", especially through TG channels.
    What many forget that among those "patriots", many, including Tatarsky, have been involved in large money collection operations "for the front", and that once Russia started to tighten the noose around those "operations" the "feeding base" for this type of "activists" shrank dramatically. I omit here the fact that most of those "bloggers" and "voenkors" have zero military education and many are what Saker called them a "sixth column", and many are straight defeatists or, like low lives Sladkov or Podolyaka, are completely off the rails.  Tatarsky fits perfectly this very same group, which has some serious issues between them in terms of monetary issues--competition. So, keep this fact in mind and, please, stop idealizing LDNR, where even today the remnants of the "old guard" are being removed due to their corruption and inability to get incorporated into Russia's administrative structures--a "heritage" of Ukraine. There is a reason why I do not read TG channels and bloggers, unless people ask to react, except for official TGs (e.g. Ministry of Foreign Affairs), or get information from people whom I know as extremely reliable, honest and professional.
    https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2023/04/to-those-who-worry-about-optics.html?m=1

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Mon Apr 03, 2023 2:13 am

    @Spriter99880
    Full video with the sale of Russian and PMC Wagner flags at the Bakhmut Administration Building

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    Post  Regular Mon Apr 03, 2023 3:46 am

    “Those who compare Tatarsky to Dugina…”

    Just stop. Both were close. Both were on the same side. Both killed by terrorist means. 

    Anything else is just demagogy. Easy to shit on dead person. Ukrainian behaviour. 


    Flatten kiev? Why not to start with their media buildings, politicians, their propagandists? “No, Russia won’t fall for this”

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    Post  GarryB Mon Apr 03, 2023 4:05 am

    didn't you say you were gonna block me lol. You keep saying its not an issue bla bla bla and here is a guy that is one of the top guys in the T90M program explaining how they deal with this issue on the latest version of the t-90. Are you claiming you know more about tanks then this guy?

    Why wouldn't they want to reduce smoke in the crew compartment?

    That shows something they are working on, but that does not mean it is a crippling problem that renders the vehicle useless in the face of super western tanks...

    On this version sure. That is why the guy is making a point of explaining the measures on the newest version that deal with this. Why would he mention it if it was unchanged from the earlier versions. Its not exactly a sexy tank feature.

    Perhaps it is an indication of what a great tank it is if they are working on such trivial minor things now...

    You are so vehement in your support you refuse to see any faults. Very much Soviet mentality.

    The smoke dissipates in seconds, but you think both crew are going to die... neither of them even cough for fucks sake, but all Russian tanks should be junked until this issue is fixed... 5th columnist over reaction mentality for you....

    Btw Vladlen Tatarskiy is the guy garry, alamo, hole called a whiny Ukrainian doomer troll, yet im sure theyre gonna pay respect this time

    His prophesies of Russian defeat were meant to motivate?

    When the person you are choking manages to kick you in the balls you can't say that is not fair... and you certainly don't stop choking them.

    If he was your source of information Limb, then I don't miss him at all.

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    Post  thegopnik Mon Apr 03, 2023 4:09 am

    **** Yes about time, opened my bottle of champagne, was tired just leaving it there anyways.

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    Post  mnztr Mon Apr 03, 2023 4:56 am

    The smoke dissipates in seconds, but you think both crew are going to die... neither of them even cough for fucks sake, but all Russian tanks should be junked until this issue is fixed... 5th columnist over reaction mentality for you.... wrote:

    the T90M is a great tank, prob the best in the world now. Yes they are improving it, ergo it must need improving. Show me a vid of a crew emptying their magazine at max rate of fire hatch closed, and THEN I can decide if its a problem or not. The designers clearly decided it was something that needed improvement so implemented significant improvements in the latest version. This was very post soviet of them. russia

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    Post  mnztr Mon Apr 03, 2023 5:31 am

    Sana Marin gets the boot!!!! cheers

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    Post  GarryB Mon Apr 03, 2023 5:43 am

    Show me a vid of a crew emptying their magazine at max rate of fire hatch closed, and THEN I can decide if its a problem or not.

    Wow... you decide do you... I don't think you are as important as you think...

    The autoloader can't load faster than one round every five seconds and of course in that time the gunner will be observing the previous shot to work out if it did the job or if another shot is required, but he doesn't know what the next target might be... it could be the same target again or it might be a totally different shot so please tell me what round will he load and when will he know what round to load?

    The designers clearly decided it was something that needed improvement so implemented significant improvements in the latest version.

    They have thousands of tanks in service and most of them use the same or a similar gun... do you think this is the only vehicle where main gun smoke gets into the crew compartment when firing?

    When they say they would also like to improve the accuracy of the gun are they admitting the gun is inaccurate?

    Making the crew compartment more comfortable is a very sensible thing but considering the Sprut has a long recoil mechanism which should allow the elimination of fumes in the crew compartment completely because the bore evacuator has more time to act, and the other tanks will be T-14 based with an unmanned turret... where ironically gun fumes should actually be pumped in to it because that would suppress any fires that might start if the turret is penetrated.

    This was very post soviet of them.

    April the first bullshit is very much a western thing.

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    Post  ucmvulcan Mon Apr 03, 2023 6:37 am

    Are we still talking about ventilation and gas masks in the T-90? Sheesh, reminds me of the 2008 Victory Day Parade, the first military parade on Red Square to feature a vehicle column since 1990, and RT's coverage of it. Hey,, RT was newish to covering parades and they did the mortal sin of parades, they blabbed all the way through it. When the T-90s drove past one of the commentators asked "so do they have air conditioning?" I remember thinking, who the hell cares? I am sure the crews do not. They just want to make sure the tank gets them into battle and gets them home alive at the end of the day. By the way, just yes or no because I am curious but I really don't care do Russian tanks have AC?

    Second, does Sana Marin getting the boot slow up NATO expansion into Finland?

    Third, is Bakhmut completely liberated yet? If so great, if not how much is left to take? Also, what are some other battles and their state?

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    Post  mnztr Mon Apr 03, 2023 6:47 am

    no the designers make the decision, but in my estimation based on seeing one or 2 rounds, its a problem. they decided to fix it. ultimately the tank should be able to fire at its max rate until magazine is empty. its not a common scenario, but certainly its possible. the tanks are networked, getting data from drones, so who knows what scenario that may be. maybe you double tap the tank, shoot a tank then HE to kill the supporting troops.. who knows. this is why you prepare for the most extreme. It puzzles me that people say there is no issue, while meanwhile the latest version of the tank has a significant enhancement in this area
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    Post  diabetus Mon Apr 03, 2023 7:09 am

    It's probably more common to empty the autoloader magazine than you think with tanks commonly being employed as SP artillery.

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    Post  mnztr Mon Apr 03, 2023 7:25 am

    It's probably more common to empty the autoloader magazine than you think with tanks commonly being employed as SP artillery. wrote:

    Prob right. Someone posted a vid here a few days ago of a tank firing right through the forest at targets spotted by a drone. Pretty clever as the enemy will have NO IDEA where its coming from and its immune to counter battery radar. prob not good for more then about 4-5000 yards if that.
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    Post  ALAMO Mon Apr 03, 2023 7:39 am

    Post Belisarius Today at 1:51 am

    To Those Who Worry About "Optics".


    That would be her father.
    He was the one who combined both, and called "new saints".
    You know where to carry credits.

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    Advice for all posters here and elsewhere in forums , some may remember me saying that I and my family have been subject to surveillance and harassment here in the UK , certainly by UK elements or even Iranian elements working with them , and also Ukrainian elements and even special forces elements here ( SS ) , who hacked my Amazon account and another posting a letter through my letter box , saying I am on surveillance live online , and surely GCHQ , which in response to me typing continuously " f****k the MI5.. " in my Google browser , sent me a warning " ..your internet can be cut off ! " And last but not least the " Ukrainian " women who was moved in next door to me , who was never in , to accept her parcels and subsequently the postman asking me to accept a parcel , and even once commenting " ..oh ! her name sounds Russian , you know ( knowing I have some interest in Russia ) etc ....

    The objective seems to be to dissuade me from posting , by harassment or framing me in a crime , or even to get me to go back , where I could be silenced ! Since they can not extradite me , and I am a British citizen ! I am thinking now , they could go further , what is inside these parcels that they insist I receive ? Take care out there , especially about females getting close to you , or people suddenly becoming interested in you and strangely sharing interests........

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    Post  Mir Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:22 am

    @Nomadski

    Not a good idea to except any parcels from your new Ukrainian neighbour Laughing

    PS - you shouldn't be using "Google" anyway Rolling Eyes

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    Post  limb Mon Apr 03, 2023 11:39 am

    To Those Who Worry About "Optics".
    I am talking about the assassination of military blogger Vladlen Tatarsky.

    "An explosion that rocked the ‘Street Bar’ café in St. Petersburg, Russia on Sunday has claimed at least one life and left 19 people injured, authorities reported. Vladlen Tatarsky (real name Maksim Fomin), a military correspondent and blogger, was killed in the incident, according to emergency services. Tatarsky joined the Donbass militias back in 2014 in the wake of the Maidan coup in Kiev. He has since become known in Russia as a blogger and a correspondent reporting on the situation in the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics. Tatarsky has also authored several books."

    Before lamenting "bad optics" and jumping to the conclusions, including knee jerk reaction--how predictable--and calls for "flattening Kiev", how about letting FSB deal with it first. Secondly, and most important, before anyone starts comparing late Daria Dugina to this "blogger", they better get acquainted with his biography, including why he ended up in prison for robbery. But for people in the West who sympathize with early LDNR militias it must be understood that apart from heroism and dedication, corruption, money laundering and other unsightly things have been blooming in LDNR too. With the start of SMO, a huge number of military "correspondents" and bloggers, many of them originally from new Russia's oblasts, started to dominate "narratives", especially through TG channels.
    What many forget that among those "patriots", many, including Tatarsky, have been involved in large money collection operations "for the front", and that once Russia started to tighten the noose around those "operations" the "feeding base" for this type of "activists" shrank dramatically. I omit here the fact that most of those "bloggers" and "voenkors" have zero military education and many are what Saker called them a "sixth column", and many are straight defeatists or, like low lives Sladkov or Podolyaka, are completely off the rails.  Tatarsky fits perfectly this very same group, which has some serious issues between them in terms of monetary issues--competition. So, keep this fact in mind and, please, stop idealizing LDNR, where even today the remnants of the "old guard" are being removed due to their corruption and inability to get incorporated into Russia's administrative structures--a "heritage" of Ukraine. There is a reason why I do not read TG channels and bloggers, unless people ask to react, except for official TGs (e.g. Ministry of Foreign Affairs), or get information from people whom I know as extremely reliable, honest and professional.
    Ahhh, martyanov being the ever eternal shill for the worthless potbelly retards, never shying from insulting the memory of LDNR martyrs.

    Vladlen was one of the only guys funding FPV drone manufacturing and training, while potbellies were content with ukrainians destroying tors with FPVs. Vladlen was telling the truth rather than martyanov's endless excuses and coping about imminent counterattacks and that the ukraine is just a few more weeks away from getting defeated, and about russian "military educated" potbelly 5D chess.

    In short martyanov is worthless scum, and so are you for insulting Vladlen tatarskiys memory


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