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    Post  Hole Mon Apr 03, 2023 11:43 am

    Sana Marin
    Next NATO General Secretary? lol1

    You could get the impression this killed blogger defended 20 virgins against an incoming horde of horny Nazi Orcs. With his bare hands. Rolling Eyes
    He was in it for the money. Not on the level of some people on the other side but nevertheless.
    This attack was a crime and will be solved. People are getting arrested. They will be put in jail, after telling the FSB more about their networks.
    So for killing a nobody the west and his puppet will loose a bunch of sleeper terrorists.

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    Post  GarryB Mon Apr 03, 2023 1:36 pm

    When the T-90s drove past one of the commentators asked "so do they have air conditioning?" I remember thinking, who the hell cares? I am sure the crews do not. They just want to make sure the tank gets them into battle and gets them home alive at the end of the day. By the way, just yes or no because I am curious but I really don't care do Russian tanks have AC?

    They need to operate in arctic conditions and desert conditions... + - 50 degrees C, so yes, they have AC and they also have heaters too.

    no the designers make the decision, but in my estimation based on seeing one or 2 rounds, its a problem. they decided to fix it.

    It is not a problem... it is an issue, and as mentioned part of the issue is the combustible propellent stub, which means no large shell case to contain some of the fumes.

    A tiny metal stub case that is ejected means there will be smoke dragged back into the turret as it is ejected, but as shown in the videos it is dispersed in seconds and does not go anywhere near either of the turret crew... which is why they are leaving it to the next upgrade to sort out.

    Their next gen tanks likely wont have any issue because their turrets will be unmanned and pumping them full of gun fumes would actually be a good idea to prevent fire.

    ultimately the tank should be able to fire at its max rate until magazine is empty. its not a common scenario, but certainly its possible.

    And who is saying they can't?

    It puzzles me that people say there is no issue, while meanwhile the latest version of the tank has a significant enhancement in this area

    If it was a real problem why would they wait till now to fix it?

    It's probably more common to empty the autoloader magazine than you think with tanks commonly being employed as SP artillery.

    Even acting as direct fire support it is very unlikely they would fire off all 22 rounds in their autoloaders at once as fast as they could... and even in a fire support role they will have HEAT and APFSDS rounds which means some rounds in the autoloader wont be suitable against soft targets they might be engaging.

    Prob right. Someone posted a vid here a few days ago of a tank firing right through the forest at targets spotted by a drone. Pretty clever as the enemy will have NO IDEA where its coming from and its immune to counter battery radar. prob not good for more then about 4-5000 yards if that.

    Except firing as ground support would mean HE shells which are not high pressure rounds and only use the propellent stubs, whereas the APFSDS rounds have extra propellent wrapped around them for higher velocity and gun pressure.

    You would get rather less smoke in the turret with HE shells than with any other type except missiles which has even less.

    Advice for all posters here and elsewhere in forums ,

    If their intent is to silence you they are fucking terrible at their jobs... but then the world would be in a rather different state if they were competent.

    Vladlen was one of the only guys funding FPV drone manufacturing and training,

    Sure he was... ex crim, Ukrainian by blood... who was auditing him? If he is innocent then having someone independent audit his work with public funds would be a no brainer to ensure trust and confidence... did he bother with such things?

    In short martyanov is worthless scum, and so are you for insulting Vladlen tatarskiys memory

    You mean Maksim Fomin... sorry, I don't trust ex crims who change their names...

    He was certainly pandering to a market...

    Wouldn't be surprised if he was ripping people off, but even if that is true at least he chose the right side, even if he was a moaning bint.

    Those responsible should be found and tried... and not traded.

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    Post  Kiko Mon Apr 03, 2023 1:57 pm

    NAC reported about the Ukrainian trace in the murder of Vladlen Tatarsky, 04.03.2023.

    The NAC said that the murder of Vladlen Tatarsky was planned by the Ukrainian special services.

    MOSCOW, April 3 - RIA Novosti. The murder of military correspondent Vladlen Tatarsky was planned by the special services of Ukraine with the participation of supporters of Alexei Navalny, the National Anti-Terrorism Committee (NAC) said.

    "The terrorist act committed on April 2 in St. Petersburg against the well-known journalist Vladlen Tatarsky was planned by the special services of Ukraine with the involvement of agents from among persons collaborating with the so-called" Anti- Corruption Fund "* Navalny, whose active supporter is the detained Daria Trepova," said in the release.

    The night before, there was an explosion in the "Street Bar" on the Universitetskaya Embankment in St. Petersburg. There was a meeting with Tatarsky (real name Maxim Fomin) at the establishment. The journalist is dead. 32 people were injured.

    26-year-old Daria Trepova, suspected of involvement in the murder, was put on the wanted list, she was detained today. The IC establishes the motives for the crime.

    Trepova confirmed that she brought the figurine with explosives to the event, but did not say who gave it to her.

    A criminal case was opened under the article on murder in a generally dangerous way, the investigation was transferred to the central office of the Investigative Committee.

    As RIA Novosti was told in the Krasnoselsky District Court of St. Petersburg, in February 2022, Trepova received ten days of administrative arrest for organizing an uncoordinated rally.

    * An extremist organization banned in Russia, recognized as a foreign agent.

    https://ria.ru/20230403/tatarskiy-1862607366.html

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    Post  sepheronx Mon Apr 03, 2023 3:18 pm

    I always recommend using a VPN like Mullvad or such. Something to protect yourselves online.

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    Post  nomadski Mon Apr 03, 2023 4:29 pm

    Trepova says , she will talk later ( about who gave statue ) probably to allow main perpetrators to escape . Is the Russian law allow forceful interrogation ? I think under circumstances now , where  lives at immediate risk , then should be sanctioned .

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    Post  Backman Mon Apr 03, 2023 4:56 pm

    Just as I said. Her CIA handlers told her there was a listening device in the statue. She threw away her whole life bc she trusted the CIA

    SHOT reports that Trepova brought a bust with an IED to St. Petersburg by car a few days ago, allegedly thinking that there was a listening device inside.

    According to the sources of the publication, Daria stated that she was given the task of getting close to Tatarsky in order to recruit him in the future, and then they handed over the same bust to her. According to the girl, the curator told her that there was a wiretap inside.

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    Post  Odin of Ossetia Mon Apr 03, 2023 5:32 pm




    Ahhh, martyanov being the ever eternal shill for the worthless potbelly retards, never shying from insulting the memory of LDNR martyrs. Vladlen was one of the only guys funding FPV drone manufacturing and training, while potbellies were content with ukrainians destroying tors with FPVs. Vladlen was telling the truth rather than martyanov's endless excuses and coping about imminent counterattacks and that the ukraine is just a few more weeks away from getting defeated, and about russian "military educated" potbelly 5D chess. In short martyanov is worthless scum, and so are you for insulting Vladlen tatarskiys memory wrote:



    It is when the original leaders of the New Russia started being removed in different ways, that is when things started to get worse.

    Putin is the biggest secret friend of the ethnic Ukrainians.


    http://michalw.narod.ru/index-Truth.html




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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Mon Apr 03, 2023 5:35 pm

    They've made a bunch of arrests now, and issued warrants, so my guess is that she has spilled the beans.

    Anyway, I wonder who the hell that Maria was whose name first started circulating, with photos and everything.

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    Post  Backman Mon Apr 03, 2023 5:47 pm

    Might not be true. Likely the only connection between this attack and navalny is the CIA.

    But it is a good idea to hang this attack on US sponsored opposition. Ppl might think twice about getting involved with these kinds of groups




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    Post  Belisarius Mon Apr 03, 2023 6:21 pm

    "worthless potbelly retard", "worthless scum"...


    Emotional reactions, with "names", attacks on the person and not on the argument, are inherent characteristics of those who have already lost the argument, are wrong and do not want to admit it.
    Tatarsky is corrupt and criminal and for years he used the suffering of the people of Donbass to profit, and that's a fact, you don't even try to argue against that fact because you can't, you just blindly defend him because he was your "eternal shill" in spreading FUD.
    The attack on Tatarsky was an act of terrorism and the culprits must be punished, but he does not deserve the status of a martyr, even more so when every day Russian soldiers give their lives doing, for Russia, things that Tatarsky never did.


    As for Martyanov, he is not always right, but he is certainly much more right than people like you or Tatarsky. If 99% of what Martyanov says is wrong and only 1% of what you say is right, then the BBC would not talk about 16000 dead Russian soldiers 3 months after von der Lugen admitted the death of 100000 Ukrainian soldiers.
    8-9 Ukrainian soldiers killed for every Russian soldier, not so bad for the potbelly 5D chess right?!

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    Post  Belisarius Mon Apr 03, 2023 6:28 pm

    Putin is the biggest secret friend of the ethnic Ukrainians.


    If that were the case, he would not have invaded Ukraine and killed hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians, but would have stood by and watched as Ukraine attacked the Donbass in March 2022.

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    Post  Odin of Ossetia Mon Apr 03, 2023 6:31 pm




    How do you know how many Ukrainian troops have been killed?

    Up to now it does not appear that Ukraine is running out of troops.

    They would have surrendered by now, if they were really running out of troops.


    Russians were forced out of many areas in Ukraine. That is something we know for certain.



    If that were the case, he would not have invaded Ukraine and killed hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians, but would have stood by and watched as Ukraine attacked the Donbass in March 2022. wrote:


    That is the "best" thing about it, to launch an invasion in such an incompetent way to transform the Ukrainians into so-called "heroes" they are really not.

    It looks like Putin succeeded at it.


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    Post  Backman Mon Apr 03, 2023 7:16 pm

    Emotional reactions, with "names", attacks on the person and not on the argument, are inherent characteristics of those who have already lost the argument, are wrong and do not want to admit it.
    Tatarsky is corrupt and criminal and for years he used the suffering of the people of Donbass to profit, and that's a fact, you don't even try to argue against that fact because you can't, you just blindly defend him because he was your "eternal shill" in spreading FUD.

    For some people (caveat emperor and a few others) , these sketchy characters and spinsters like Tatarsky are their biggest heroes. The honest upstanding truth tellers. These sketchy upstarts try and jump ahead of the que of the MOD credibility wise with "truthiness." The MOD is far from perfect but these guys take it to the other extreme and it makes the information war beyond hopeless.

    The western media pumps out their usual fabrications. Like Russia is days away from running out of ammunition. Then there's some unit at the front that ran short of ammo for some reason and these truth teller jerkoffs go on Telegram and make a post about it. And then the western media picks up their bullshit and uses it to verify their fabrication! Then Caveat empire comes on a forum like this and says someone should be fired because that unit ran out of ammo for a couple days. And these guys think they are helping ? Or something ? It really is hopeless and its probably never going to change.

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    Post  caveat emptor Mon Apr 03, 2023 7:30 pm


    @Belisarius
    Tatarsky is corrupt and criminal and for years he used the suffering of the people of Donbass to profit, and that's a fact, you don't even try to argue against that fact because you can't, you just blindly defend him because he was your "eternal shill" in spreading FUD.
    The attack on Tatarsky was an act of terrorism and the culprits must be punished, but he does not deserve the status of a martyr, even more so when every day Russian soldiers give their lives doing, for Russia, things that Tatarsky never did.


    As for Martyanov, he is not always right, but he is certainly much more right than people like you or Tatarsky. If 99% of what Martyanov says is wrong and only 1% of what you say is right, then the BBC would not talk about 16000 dead Russian soldiers 3 months after von der Lugen admitted the death of 100000 Ukrainian soldiers.
    8-9 Ukrainian soldiers killed for every Russian soldier, not so bad for the potbelly 5D chess right?!

    Character assassinations are very easy. Especially, if the person is dead. Can you back up any of the claims about Tatarsky's corruption? He never hid the fact he was in prison. Not that it matters now, as he was killed in a terrorist attack with dozens of other people wounded, on Russian soil, very likely organized by Ukrainian GRU and western services, as you pointed out.

    As for Martyanov, he is a know it all kind of expert  and lately likes to talk about stuff he don't understand much (especially connected to  economy and finance). He likes to brag about his "connections" with active Russian army officers, while making unsubstantiated claims.
    I don't have doubt that he knows people that presently serve in Russian Armed Forces, but i have serious doubts that they will share anything with him.
    Main reasons would be that that Martyanov works/worked for US DoD contractor and has US passport, fact that he never hidden (about passport). Second, being employee of said company there is a decent chance he is not even a Russian citizen anymore, as that would be  a requirement of the job, especially if he had to get security clearance.
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew63/
    You could say that he is a grifter and in a job of making sensationalistic claims to ensure his monthly cash flow and sell books.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Mon Apr 03, 2023 7:35 pm

    To be fair Tatarsky actually fought on the front

    So don't take that away from him and label him a grifter

    He's not a Kremlin insider, but he's put his life on the line

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    Post  Tolstoy Mon Apr 03, 2023 7:58 pm

    Security has been beefed up here in Moscow. People are being frisked in the metro, skating rink, the annual exhibition Motospring and even in restaurants located at city centre.

    The access road leading to the Savior Gate of the Kremlin was closed for pedestrians.

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    Post  Airbornewolf Mon Apr 03, 2023 8:11 pm

    RF troops storm Ukrainian position, take POW's


    RF lancet strike on Crab 155MM and munition truck


    slow motion firing of an RF 2S5 Hyacinth-S

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    Post  nomadski Mon Apr 03, 2023 8:29 pm


    https://www.mashreghnews.ir/news/1471042/%D8%AD%D9%85%D9%84%D9%87-%DB%8C-%D9%BE%D9%87%D9%BE%D8%A7%D8%AF%DB%8C-%D8%A8%D9%87-%D9%86%DB%8C%D8%B1%D9%88%D9%87%D8%A7%DB%8C-%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%B3%DB%8C-%D8%A8%D8%A7-%D8%B3%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%AD-%D8%B4%DB%8C%D9%85%DB%8C%D8%A7%DB%8C%DB%8C-%D9%81%DB%8C%D9%84%D9%85



    Found this YouTube clip on mashregh news , shows gas drone attack , looks genuine . No idea of date ? Does anyone know about this or other incidents ? What should response be ?
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    Post  Airbornewolf Mon Apr 03, 2023 8:48 pm

    @ Nomadski, It first appeared on TG channels at 05-03-2023.
    There is another video/incident that appeared on 07-02-2023.

    some Nazi blogger posted a day before 07-02-2023 footage of a bunch of small chemical ordnance they threatened to use.

    I have read posts there where more incidents, but no additional photographic of film footage on this

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    Post  ludovicense Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:09 pm

    According to some #Russian
    @telegram
    channels the "Black Eagle" tank is being brought back to fight NATO armour .
    Possibly the pinnacle of the T-80/90 series this was a heavy MBT designed to be armed with a 152 mm cannon, a coaxial 7.62 mm machine gun and a remote anti-aircraft gun with a 12.7 mm Kord machine gun.
    Had heavier armour than today's T-90 variants & a bustle mounted autoloader & separate ammunition racks . Was shelved after the cold war ended.

    ............................

    It s will it be real?

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    Post  mnztr Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:13 pm

    If it was a real problem why would they wait till now to fix it? wrote:

    No money, and perhaps they felt they could fix it with redesigned/reformulated ammo. So, just give the crew breathing equipment or open the hatch...as we have seen. If all the problems were fixed immediately, why did they bother with the T-55, 64 and 72. Why not just go straight to the T-90M. Every tank has issues going into production. Masks may allow you to operate, but they degrade the efficiency of the crew. and with more detailed and complex displays, clear view of the displays becomes more important. If it wasn't a real problem, why did they address it at all? Nothing better to do at the office?

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    Post  Backman Mon Apr 03, 2023 10:08 pm

    If it was a real problem why would they wait till now to fix it? wrote:
    (the problem he personally diagnosed with the ventilation of the T-90 by watching a 30 second clip on twitter)
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    No money

    That's the definition of trolling.

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    Post  diabetus Mon Apr 03, 2023 10:15 pm

    There was never a black eagle tank. There was 1 prototype that was far from anything approaching a complete vehicle.

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