Russian special military operation in Ukraine #41

It would be funny if they painted it pink and put pig ears and a curly tail on it.

May be an Ukr infiltration operation from start to finish. There are millions of Ukrainians in Russia and some of them are likely to have been brainwashed by their relatives into selling out. The conflict is a type of civil war and such treachery is par for the course.

You mean the whole su 34 Belgorod thing could be a coverup ?

In hindsight...rather then invade Ukraine, perhaps Russia should have just sent cruise missiles to kill the entire govt. Perhaps that would have sent a statement of determination. Then they should have demanded surrender if not they would kill any govt put in place to replace the last one. Thoughts? It would get the job done with far fewer deaths.

It would have made the Americans bolder because they would think Putin was not prepared to send in the troops and is a coward like they are hoping air power would get the job done instead without getting your hands bloody.

The simple fact is that if Russia had not invaded and their armed forces remained largely intact then they would represent a massive threat to the Donbass regions, but also to the Crimea and after an attack on Kiev started they would have mobilised and moved their forces to the front line making the job much harder for those fighting there at the time and they likely would have collapsed under the weight of numbers meaning when you did send in Russian troops they would be largely on their own and fighting from much further back than when they started this time and with fewer locals to help them.

If you want to kill some people kill the Bidens and the Clintons and this whole war goes away.

Bidens will stop the conflict in the Ukraine where they have a lot of financial interests and Clintons to stop this irrational hatred of Putin...

You take him and puppets out in Kiev, all Washington does is find a new set of puppets and nothing changes.

There will be an enormous queue of out of work actors to take his place.

You mean the whole su 34 Belgorod thing could be a coverup ?

I think he is talking about the American missile in the rubbish in Moscow...

A bomb released over friendly territory by accident would only be a coverup if they denied it and claimed it was Kiev.

It is rare but it does happen, and the fact that they openly admit it is the difference between them and the west and Kiev.

No-one released bombs above cities. Just overflew cities.

We don't know what happened... the aircraft may have developed a fault or part of the glide kit for the bomb might have deployed forcing the pilot to jettison the ordinance to prevent the entire aircraft going down.

Telegram channel claims that soon FAB-3000 and even FAB-5000 will be used with guided glide kits.

Which suggests they are going to be using Tu-22M3s... wonder if they might fly with four mounted on external weapon points ...the two wing glove points that often carry Kh-22 and Kh-32 missiles which are 5 to 7 tons each, but also the weapon points under the air intakes that often have multiple ejector racks for 9 x 500kg bombs might be another position they could carry such bombs too.

Would be interesting to see a massive counter offensive of Ukraine forces roll in to attack with two or three Backfires dropping three or five ton bombs on them, but really such bombs would be most effective against hardened targets like bunkers.

An armour counter offensive would be better dealt with using larger numbers of smaller bombs delivered in volume, though the sight of a 5 ton conventional bomb landing in front of you on the guys leading the way would probably have quite an effect on those ordered to follow.

I do not think that Belgorod is self-evidently an accident. There could have been tampering with the release mechanism by someone or group working at the airfield from which the jet was operating. It's the sort of PR style sabotage that is consistent with the PR clown regime in Kiev and its NATzO patrons. Have the Russian airforce bomb its own population and then start a shit storm on social media. For some reason, NATzO and its Kiev proxies think that they can induce a political crisis in Russia and get regime change. They are operating under the delusion that Russia is in an unstable state and all they need to do is push it enough. The overhyped spring offensive is supposed to be part of this destabilization.

I can just imagine the Western gutter press.
"Antisemetic monster Putin taunts Zelensky with pig shaped bombs".

Of course omitting to mention that Zelensky is actually the puppet for a bunch of verminous actual Nazis who largely control many of the organs of power... on behalf of Paedo Biden's gang.

So they did not know , how many bombs were released " accidentally " ? And the people did not know the difference between a falling ton of steel from a Rain - drop ? And they did not report it ? Highly unlikely , and even impossible . Belgorod  came under attack before by Ukrs drones or other , and it was not covered up . Retaliation could be done for it . Therefore this one not from Ukrs . Meaning it did not come from or fired from Ukrs. Since that is not a problem . Where else could it come from , what could it be ? There was just a national phone alarm in UK . I don't t think the Russian Ships are close to London . What is close then ?

Prigozhin commented on the interception of the conversation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine about the execution of the wounded

The head of the "Wagner Group" Prigozhin ordered not to capture and destroy all the soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine


“Of course, I heard this audio interception long before it hit the media. I can say one thing: this audio interception about Ukrainians shooting our wounded prisoners is of very serious humanitarian importance. And we will never violate international laws of humanism ", said the businessman.

He noted that the law of humanism begins with the capture of a person, after which the military must provide medical assistance to their enemy and are obliged not to injure him.
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"We will not violate the rules of humanism. And we will simply destroy everyone on the battlefield, <...> we will no longer take a single prisoner," Prigozhin emphasized.
The businessman added that the name of the fighter shot by the Ukrainians is still unknown.

https://ria.ru/20230423/rasstrel-1867192240.html

the question is if Russian Army follows?

Do keep in mind the one problem if you do not take prisoners is, your enemy will fight tooth and nail if they know, its fight or death

I hardly believe the notion if was sabotage, Because they could do far worse damage at that point.


The russians F'ed up get over it

So much for the vaunted intelligence services of the US. My highlight

Airman's Leaks Started Just 48 Hours After Russia Invaded Ukraine

by Tyler Durden

Saturday, Apr 22, 2023 - 10:00 PM

The Pentagon's humiliation just grew deeper, as it turns out National Guard Airman Jack Teixeira's leaks of classified documents started far earlier than has previously been reported.

Tipped off about a second, 600-member Discord chat group where Teixeira also posted, the New York Times found the Massachusetts Air National Guard information technology specialist started sharing information about the war in Ukraine within 48 hours of Russia's February 2022 invasion. In contrast to the previously reported chat group, this one was far larger and was publicly listed on a YouTube channel.

This development makes the intelligence community's failure to discover the posts all the more embarrassing: The document used to criminally charge Teixeira says he started posting in December 2022, but it turns out his stream of leaks spanned 13 months.

The Times matched Teixeira to the account in the newly-publicized chat room by a variety of means, including the user name, photos he posted that match known photos of his family home's interior, a reference to his birthday, and, not least, the user's declaration that he worked in an Air Force intelligence unit.
Teixeria's senior quote in the 2020 high school yearbook at Dighton-Rehoboth Regional High School in Massachusetts (Taunton Daily Gazette)

The posts reviewed by the Times were detailed descriptions of classified documents, with the user believed to have also posted photos of documents that have since been deleted.

Teixeira jumped into leak mode just two days after the Russian invasion, posting, “Saw a pentagon report saying that ⅓rd of the force is being used to invade." When others in the chat room questioned his information, he wrote, "I have a little more than open source info. Perks of being in a USAF intel unit.”

In a March 27, 2022 post in which he said he was citing "an NSA site," Teixeira told the group Russian forces were about to pull back from Kiev: “Some ‘big’ news. There may be a planned withdrawal of the troops west of Kiev, as in all of them.” Two days later, Russia announced it was doing just that.

“The job I have lets me get privilege’s above most intel guys,” he boasted with imperfect punctuation. When another chat participant cautioned him not to abuse those privileges, Teixeira fittingly replied, "Too late."


Teixeira appears to have made some posts while on duty at the 102nd Intelligence Wing, the unit he was assigned to at Otis Air National Guard Base on Cape Cod. Once, he told the chat room he was about to enter a SCIF, or Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility. In the aftermath of the leaks' discovery, the Air Force temporarily stripped the 102nd of its intelligence mission -- (which is pretty bad when "intelligence" is in your unit's name).

In the larger chat group that's been previously reported, Teixeira announced the end of his information-sharing services on March 19: “I was very happy and willing and enthusiastic to have covered this event for the past year and share with all of you something that not many people get to see. I’ve decided to stop with the updates.”

While establishment newspapers are eagerly beating the government to the punch at every turn in this case, the next significant drop of government information could come at a pretrial detention hearing, which on Wednesday was postponed for two weeks to May 3, at defense counsel's request.

So far, Teixeira's been charged with unlawful retention and transmission of national defense information and unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents. Two guilty verdicts could put him in prison for up to 15 years.

In what sounds like it might just be a comically absurd attempt to portray Teixeira as a Russian asset, prosecutors this filed new information with the court, noting that he once shot a vintage Soviet pistol.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/airmans-leaks-started-just-48-hours-after-russia-invaded-ukraine

If this talk about a landing on the east side of Kherson doesn't die down right soon then wtf. Slavyngrad is saying its bullshit so it probably is I guess. It better be

Which suggests they are going to be using Tu-22M3s... wonder if they might fly with four mounted on external weapon points ...the two wing glove points that often carry Kh-22 and Kh-32 missiles which are 5 to 7 tons each, but also the weapon points under the air intakes that often have multiple ejector racks for 9 x 500kg bombs might be another position they could carry such bombs too. wrote:

Weren't they also working to put the KH-32 on the SU-30? If so a single FAB 5000 or 2x FAB 3000 should be able to go on that mount. Which probably also means the SU-34 can be modded to carry them. with 14T payload a nice pummeling load out for the SU34 would be a single Fab5 K 4 KAB 1500 and 4 FAB 500 glide bombs. WOW to think a single plane can deliver that firepower. is utterly mind blowing.

Does anyone know what the plan is to win the Battle of the Donbas after the one-year-long Bakhmut quagmire?