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    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #40

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    Post  GarryB Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:41 am

    What do you guys think of this American that says Russian pilots are incompetent for hitting US drone

    I would say the Russian pilot was super competent if they could ram the drone and not crash yourself then that is a win.

    Except there is no evidence at all that there was any collision... the video released is bullshit... in the first few passes the drones props have two yellow stripes near their tips and the video of the damaged prop has no painted stripes showing it is a completely different drone from a different incident... probably a prop made of high quality US steel that failed all on its own?

    A better topic of discussion would be the US flying recon drones near Russian airspace in a situation where Russia is in open conflict with their neighbour where several facts should be taken into account.

    First that neighbour Russia is fighting claims Crimea as its territory and has openly stated that attacking targets in Crimea are on its agenda, which the US has openly supported.

    Second Ukraine has used drones to attack military targets in Russia, and the US is providing weapons and drones to the Ukraine, so how would the Russians know if a drone approaching their airspace is a Kiev controlled drone of US origin or a US drone gathering intel for Kiev to attack Russian forces?

    If I was Russia I would just say... thanks for the drone... we will add it to our collection of Javelins and Stingers and Humvees... look forward to the new tanks.

    Keep it up America... the more you try to damage Russia the bigger it becomes and more independent they become of the west and the weaker the west seems to be becoming... don't trust any US banks... get your money out of them as fast as you can because they will say you can't take money out soon enough... and then it is gone.

    Would add that Smoothie noticed this guys comments and posted this:

    Boy, The Guy Is A Sore Loser.

    http://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2023/03/boy-guy-is-sore-loser.html

    The comments section below mentioned the cable car incident in Italy where over a dozen civilians were murdered by US Navy pilots who destroyed evidence.

    No ICC then I guess...

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:45 am

    Post  JohninMK Today at 12:27 am

    How about this downside?


    https://inf.news/en/military/00eab4e12667bb5ea614d229a70c1d3d.html

    More cold water on the ‘Leopards are coming’ crowd, though annoyingly I cannot find the Swedish Army report he cites.

    Bottom line, the tanks might be more economical that their rivals but in combat conditions they will burn through 1200 litres of fuel in 3 hours and 15 mins and I doubt the Swedes took into account Ukrainian mud, into those calculations. So, 80 Leopards will need 96000 litres of fuel every three hours, approx 250,000+ a day, that’s 30 HEMTTs or 180 fuel cans per tank per day, if you want to reduce your ISR signature. Does that sound within Ukrainian logistical capabilities?


    No, they don't, but it is irrelevant.
    The whole "tanks" mythology is nothing more than a try to suck more western attention, ending up with any kind of direct involvement.
    While on the western side, it is a try to pretend they are doing everything they can.
    The final effect will be loading the western audience that it was the stupid Ukro cause that they have lost, while having all the Wunderwaffe delivered.
    And they didn't fall to Russia, but a collective rough regime force.
    So you know, te west is as united and mighty as never, only stepping back for reason of care of the fate of humanity.
    Such lovely people, we are.

    From the technical point, I guess those tanks will be used in a way that HIMARS or some more fancy artillery is being used. In single pieces, heavily supported by the intelligence assets and boots on the ground, to carry some small scale terror style attacks. Only to upload the effects later, to please the sponsors.
    So we shouldn't apply the supply numbers valid for a tank brigade. They won't operate at that scale.

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    Post  nomadski Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:33 am

    @ Sephernox and FP and Erk .

    I never claimed to be factual or sane , but you did !  I have also been accused of not being the " brightest " lamp here .  I hope when you reject a view , that you do say why and explain . Otherwise your reply becomes pointless . I did say that I had a feeling ( not facts or reasoning or theory of relativity ) . I got this feeling by simply looking at Xi and Putin sitting down . I don't think I am wrong . My role here is to be drunken mad , yours is to be sober sane . You learn from me . GarryB explained .


    Edit : Backman wrote " What demands is Russia making that are of concern to China ? China is helping where it can. What should they do? Send troops ? " Why not ? The western nations sending troops and advisers , many were killed . Why not China and Iran send troops ?


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    Post  mr_hd Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:51 am

    Apparently there is Ukrainian claim that they attacked with UAVs some ammo depo in Crimea. They claim that Calibr missiles were transferred by railway and hit???
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    Post  JohninMK Tue Mar 21, 2023 11:03 am

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Tue Mar 21, 2023 11:10 am

    Local Crimean telegram channels say that a private house on Yuzhnaya street and a small shop ("Prodmag Alina") on Oktyabrskaya street, next to school #7 in Dzhankoy were hit by drones. One civilian hospitalized with shrapnel wounds.

    There are multiple images and videos of the drone wrecks and the (relatively minor) damage they caused.

    Some say AD shot them down, ie that their intended targets were something else, but so far I haven't seen anything about an ammo depot or anything of the sort having been hit by any.


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    Post  JohninMK Tue Mar 21, 2023 11:11 am

    Chronicle of the Special Military Operation for 20 Mar 2023⚡

    🔹#Russia's Border Areas:

    ▪ In the #Bryansk region, Ukrainian terror formations fired mortars at the village of #Kurkovichi. Two residential buildings were damaged. Temporary power supply problems arose in the village.

    ▪ In the #Kursk Region, the enemy terrorists struck the villages of #Guevo and #Gornal, with no civilian casualties or damage.

    ▪ Russian air defences were triggered near the town of #Dzhankoye in the Republic of #Crimea. Fragments of downed drones fell on a private sector and a grocery shop, one man was injured.

    🔹 #Starobelsk (#Svatovo) Direction:

    ▪ The situation has not changed significantly. Artillery duels and positional fighting continue along the line of contact.

    🔹#Soledar (#Bakhmut) Direction:

    ▪ Northwest of #Bakhmut, Wagner PMC troops are storming the AFU defensive lines in Orekhovo-Vasilyevka.

    ▪ In #Bakhmut itself, fierce street fighting continues. Russian forces are expanding their zone of control in the northern and southern districts of the city.
    ➖ In the north, the "Wagnerians" have established control over the territory of the "Fantasia" nursery and construction depot, and reached Alexandra Kolpakova Avenue.
    ➖ In the south, fighters of the Wagner PMC are fighting near the Avangard stadium and are advancing towards Mariupolskaya Street in the Sobachevo district.

    ▪ Southwest of #Bakhmut , fighting continues on the approaches to the #Konstantinovka - #Bakhmut highway and the outskirts of #Krasnoye.

    🔹#Donetsk Direction (MAP):

    ▪ North of #Avdeyevka, Russian forces broke through the AFU defence west of #Krasnogorovka and entrenched themselves on the eastern outskirts of #Petrovskoye.
    In the southeast, units of the RF Armed Forces entered #Kamenka and proceeded to storm enemy positions inside the settlement.

    ▪ Southwards, the Russian servicemen broke through the enemy's fortifications north of #Opytnoye, approaching the southwestern outskirts of #Avdeyevka. Fighting is currently taking place on the approaches to the ninth quarter.

    ▪ Ukrainian terror formations shelled #Donetsk and #Aleksandrovka with barrel and rocket artillery. Residential buildings were damaged, civilians were not harmed.
    ➖ Locals reported an unidentified aerial object falling in the Kievsky district of the DPR capital.

    🔹#Zaporozhye Direction:

    ▪ After unsuccessful battle reconnaissance in the #Orekhov section, The militants of the AFU switched to positional combat.
    ➖ Russian artillery is firing at the approaching enemy reinforcements.

    🔹#Kherson Direction on #SouthFront:

    ▪ Mutual shelling continues along the entire line of contact, with the RF Armed Forces hitting AFU concentrations in #Kherson, #Otradokamenka and #Tyaginka.
    ➖ In turn, the Ukrainian terrorist formations shelled the left bank of #Kherson region. Residential buildings and civilian infrastructure in Novaya Kakhovka have also been hit.


    https://t.me/sitreports/6069

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    Post  Hole Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:35 pm

    These better trained forces
    Here we are again. Rolling Eyes
    Those "better trained forces" received two weeks of training in Germany or Britain. Rolling Eyes

    This talking about the "BIG counter-offensive in Zaporoshye" is getting annoying.
    Christoforou is polluting his last videos with talk about it. You could get the impression
    this is Operation Bagration 2.0 but in reality it will be in an area 50 to 100km wide. Propably
    smaller. 90% of the frontlines won´t be effected. Even if the Ukros could move forward a few
    kilometres this wouldn´t stop the Russians from taking Bakhmut and Adviika and move
    forward.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:51 pm

    mr_hd wrote:Apparently there is Ukrainian claim that they attacked with UAVs some ammo depo in Crimea. They claim that Calibr missiles were transferred by railway and hit???

    In general the Russians have run out of missiles already and the hohols dug the black sea out without the use of primitive shovels

    But Russia remains the #1 oil supplier to China

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    Post  Airbornewolf Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:47 pm

    additional footage of the failed Ukrainian attack in Zaporozhye


    RF MSTA-S supporting frontline forces\

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    Post  kvs Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:29 pm

    Watching Dima of the Military Summary Channel streaming with The Duran, supposedly the Kiev regime trains its conscripts inside Ukraine for
    several months and then sends them to be "finished" in the UK or elsewhere to learn how to operate NATzO weapons systems. I don't see much evidence
    of fully trained Ukr soldiers on the front. There is lots of talk about use of best soldiers implying limited supply. I suppose that these
    are the ones who were trained before the start of the operation last year and are still left alive.

    The expectation for the spring offensive by Dima and others is being overly generous with the resources that the Kiev regime has.

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    Post  Hole Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:24 pm

    Possible use of uranium-core projectiles by Kiev for Leopard 2 tanks
    will be considered as the use of dirty nuclear bombs - head of the
    Russian delegation at the talks in Vienna on military security and
    arms control Konstantin Gavrilov - Intel Slava Z

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    Quadcopter with MON-50 mine

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:05 pm

    Wow, we kinda had an idea about this lot of weapons but they now appear to be being field tested. Thanks NATO.

    New, unique weapons according to https://www.kp.ru/daily/27479/4736246/

    “Airborne Forces extinguished Ukrainian combat swimmers with anti-sabotage weapons
    When repelling an attack by Ukrainian combat swimmers on the banks of the Kakhovka reservoir, Russian paratroopers used anti-sabotage weapons. One of the commanders of the Airborne Forces unit of the Russian Federation said that the radius of destruction of these ammunition under water is 200 meters. And “the enemy has no chance.” This newest, unique weapon (details at the link ) was used to repel the attack of underwater gamers. Earlier, the head of the Kherson region, Volodymyr Saldo, noted that Ukrainian paratroopers tried to force the Kakhovka reservoir, but their barge was sunk. Neptune, if anything, is also on our side. As is Charon.”

    https://www.kp.ru/daily/27479/4736046/

    Ukrainian nationalists are jammed like fish by electric and acoustic waves
    In the NMD, the Ranets-E began to be used against drone operators, and the DP-64 Nepryadva grenade launcher helps against the attacks of divers

    Recently, the American magazine The New York Times Magazine published a report about a visit to the Kiev psychiatric hospital, which is popularly called “Pavlovka”. Ukrainian nationalists are being rehabilitated there, who received psychological trauma while participating in hostilities. The publication notes that Ukrainian hospitals are overcrowded with patients who have received psychological trauma on the front line.

    Ukrainian nationalists suffer from panic attacks, strange visions, gnashing in the head, now and then grab their heads with their hands, beat them against the walls.

    MICROWAVE GUN AGAINST NATIONALISTS
    “They do not reach Russian positions for 5 kilometers, they just burn up in the air,” complain the operators of aerial drones of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. They also report panic attacks and headaches.

    As it became known to “KP”, the reason for this could be the Ranets-E combat complexes of electromagnetic radiation, which have been in our arsenal since the beginning of the 90s of the last century. This is such a huge “microwave” on a wheelbase that it shoots microwave radiation in the form of a beam, which with a power of 500 MW at the focus point “roasts” any electronics at a distance of up to 40 kilometers.

    At the same time, Ranets-E burns out the electronic filling even for those targets that fly supersonic above the earth’s surface.

    Operators of enemy drones who accidentally fall under this beam will also have a hard time: radiation leads to psychosis, degradation of the nervous and immune systems, and also to metabolic failures. Let them take an interest in the mental health of American intelligence officers who, with the help of their electronics, tried to study military installations in Cuba.

    By the way, in addition, under certain conditions, radiation can lead to the detonation of enemy precision-guided munitions in storage depots.

    “Knapsack-E” can be considered a defensive weapon. But there is a similar offensive weapon in our troops – the Alabuga cruise missile. This is already a real flying “microwave”: during its flight, it generates an impulse of 1000 MW, which burns out all electronics within a radius of several kilometers. Such a missile can deprive the enemy of air defense systems, reconnaissance aircraft, and many other military targets at once.

    COMBAT SWIMMERS ARE MUTE UNDER WATER, LIKE A FISH
    Our paratroopers, who are standing on the banks of the Kakhovka reservoir, journalists noticed strange double-barreled shotguns, which, with their huge caliber, are not at all like hunting ones.

    “They allow us to destroy all living things that are under water at a distance of up to 200 meters,” one of the servicemen commented.

    As it became known to “KP”, a double-barreled anti-sabotage grenade launcher DP-64 “Nepryadva” flashed in the frame . This is also a development of the early 90s of the last century, which was mainly in service with our marines and sailors to protect anchorages and other marine facilities from combat swimmers.

    “Nepryadva” allows you to guaranteedly kill with an acoustic wave all living things that are under water within a radius of 14 meters from the explosion of a special grenade rocket.

    With the first shot, the fighter directs the lighting ammunition, which makes the combat swimmer visible under water even at great depths, and the second grenade jams it with an acoustic wave.

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:10 pm

    From Avdeevka, it is reported that after the assault of Stepove, the blow is shifting towards Orlivka.

    In this area, three main supply channels of the AFU in Avdiivka pass through Orlivka, Lastochkino and Tonenke.

    According to the Military Chronicle, the first of them, passing directly through Orlivka, can be taken under fire control by the evening. At the moment, rocket artillery and aviation are actively working on the positions of the AFU.

    Apparently, the scheme of cutting off the enemy from supplies tested in Bakhmut is also used here. If the supply routes are cut, the encirclement of the AFU group in Avdeevka and the liberation of the city will be only a matter of time.

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    Avdeevskoe direction - the situation on the morning of March 21

    Yesterday's reports about the alleged capture of Stepovoe by us are ahead of events. While our units crossed the railway and approached the outskirts of this settlement. Nevertheless, this caused a serious operational crisis for the enemy, and he was forced to commit reserves to battle.

    But he has a hard time with them. Moreover, at the same time, yesterday (and today) units of the 1st Army Corps of the RF Armed Forces also began an assault on the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine west of Avdeevka towards Severnoye and Lastochkino, which is much more dangerous for the enemy than a breakthrough north of Avdeevka, since it passes through Lastochkino " Avdiivka road of life of the Armed Forces of Ukraine”, the loss of complete control over which threatens the city garrison with big problems.

    In general, today it will be no less hot here than yesterday.

    -Yuri Podolyak

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:14 pm

    Minimum, incomplete, low-ball KIA(only)(FEBA only) 405+ ... Translated:

    Summary of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the progress of a special military operation (21.03.2023)

    💥 In the Kupyansk direction, active actions of units and artillery fire of the "Western" group of troops hit enemy manpower and equipment in the areas of Dvurechnaya and Timkovka settlements of Kharkiv region, Novoselovskoye and Stelmakhovka of Luhansk people's republic. Up to 80 Ukrainian servicemen, three armored fighting vehicles and a D-20 howitzer were destroyed.

    💥 In the Krasno-Limanskoe direction, artillery and heavy firing systems of the Group of Forces (Forces) Center hit Ukrainian armed forces units in the areas of Nevske of the Luhansk People's Republic, Yampolovka and Hryhorovka of the Donetsk People's Republic. During the day, up to 95 Ukrainian servicemen, two armored fighting vehicles, as well as D-20 and D-30 howitzers were destroyed in this direction.

    💥 In the Donetsk direction, during active actions of the Southern group of troops, air strikes and artillery fire, the enemy's losses for the day amounted to 160 Ukrainian servicemen, three armored combat vehicles, four vehicles and a D-20 howitzer.

    💥 On the South Donetsk and Zaporizhzhya directions, strikes by tactical and army aviation and artillery fire of the Vostok Group of Forces struck AFU units in the areas of Ugledar, Novomikhailovka of the Donetsk People's Republic and Preobrazhenka of the Zaporizhzhya region. The losses of the enemy amounted to more than 30 Ukrainian servicemen, two pickup trucks, as well as a D-30 howitzer.

    💥 In the Kherson direction, over 40 Ukrainian servicemen, three vehicles, two Acacia self-propelled howitzers, as well as a US-made M777 artillery system were destroyed as a result of enemy fire during the day.

    💥 Operational-tactical and army aviation, missile troops and artillery of groups of troops (forces) of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation during the day hit 95 artillery units of the AFU at firing positions, manpower and equipment in 107 areas. In addition, three US-made AN/TPQ-37 counter-battery radar stations were destroyed in the areas of Shandrigolovo, Donetsk People's Republic, Orekhov, Zaporozhye Region, and Belozerk, Kherson Region.

    ✈ Russian Air Force fighter aircraft near Nikanorovka settlement of Donetsk People's Republic shot down an Su-25 aircraft of Ukrainian air forces in an aerial battle.

    💥 The anti-aircraft defense forces destroyed 31 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles in the areas of Tokarevka, Kharkiv region, Krasnorechenskoye, Chervonopopovka, Novovodynoye, Kremenna, Ploshchanka, Voyevodka during the day, Rubizhne, Baranikivka of the Luhansk People's Republic, Zelenyi Hay, Urozhaynoye, Blagodatnoye, Vladimirovka, Yevgenovka, Staromlinovka of the Donetsk People's Republic, Ulyanovka, Polohy of the Zaporizhzhya region, Novaya Zburyevka and Krynki of the Kherson region. In addition, three HIMARS MBLRS rockets were intercepted.

    📊 In total, since the beginning of the special military operation destroyed (losses over previous 24hrs(+?)):
    403(+1) aircraft, (Daily avg 1.1)
    223 helicopters, (Daily avg 0.6)
    3,502(+31) unmanned aerial vehicles, (Daily avg 8.9)
    414 surface-to-air missile systems, (Daily avg 1.1)
    8,363(+Cool tanks and other armored combat vehicles, (Daily avg 21.Cool
    1,070 multiple rocket launchers, (Daily avg 2.Cool
    4,403(+Cool field artillery and mortars, (Daily avg 11.4) and
    9,039(+12) special military vehicles. (Daily avg 23.3)

    Comment:

    Sustained OP Tempo. Losses continue to mount, multi Front Situ continues to deteriorate with little effective AFU response to RF initiatives, offensive OPs, maneuvers & thrusts.

    Reduction of Bahkmut encirclement continues. If AFU does not mount a 'successful' counter-attack to relieve Bahkmut soon, there will be no to little effective forces to salvage. Severely outnumbered & overwhelmed, fragmented & under relentless assault from multiple axes, with ever diminishing insufficient critical logistics shortages.

    Avdiivka primary road & rail MSR severed. Three alternate minor secondary MSRs now under threat. Double envelopment continues apace. Avdiivka garrison ultimately faces same fate as Bahkmut if unable to defend & secure remaining secondary MSRs.

    AFU has not demonstrated ability to deploy capable combat power outside of fixed static defensive positions. Tactical reserves deployed weak, in-cohesive & insufficient in combat power & effectiveness.

    Overall summary unchanged as @ Outraged | Mar 20 2023 14:12 utc | 217.

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:21 pm

    Another mind blowingly stupid move by London.

    The UK will send “armour piercing rounds which contain depleted uranium” to Ukraine, for use with the tank squadron donated by the British army.

    deputy defence minister Baroness Goldie made the admission yesterday in response to a written parliamentary question from crossbench peer Lord Hylton.

    Goldie said: “Such rounds are highly effective in defeating modern tanks and armoured vehicles.”

    Russia has previously warned it would regard the use of depleted uranium in Ukraine as a ‘dirty bomb’.


    Using depleted uranium is not done by someone expecting to recapture the land. It is a declaration of defeat.

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:26 pm

    On the Ukrainian UAV Raid on #Dzhankoy in #Crimea⚡

    Another massive attack by Ukrainian UAVs was carried out on the Crimean peninsula last night. At least six "Mugin-5" type UAVs, artificially equipped with explosives, were used against #Dzhankoy.

    As a result, two drones were shot down by a Pantsir SAM system, and two fell on administrative buildings near the railway station. A fifth destroyed a grocery shop, while shrapnel from a sixth damaged private houses on Yuzhnaya, Gagarin and Chekhov streets.

    The map shows the approximate strike and impact areas of the drones, based on open source data.

    🔹What was the Target of the AFU?

    Initially, information was received that the AFU formations launched drones from the Shkolny airfield (#Odessa) to strike at the Russian military airfield. However, judging by the area of ​​application of the UAV, an attempt was made to hit the station building and the railway track.

    #Dzhankoy is the main transit hub for the Russian grouping in #Crimea. Railway lines to #Sevastopol and mainland #Russia pass through the city train station, and the attempt to hit the facility looks logical.

    Despite claims by the Ukrainian GUR that the attack hit a train carrying Kalibr cruise missiles, this was not the case. If the train with such weapons had been hit, at least a secondary detonation would have been visible - there are no consequences of the explosion.

    In addition, the AFU, when launching drones over long distances, as a rule, score the coordinates in advance to increase the immunity of the means of electronic warfare. Hitting a moving train in this way is extremely difficult.

    🔹Information Support

    After the first sounds of explosion and engagement of air defence, Ukrainian infobots started to actively work in #Dzhankoy city chats, misinforming the population and inducing panic.

    Various Telegram channels (such as Trukha and Insider) published posts about a dozen explosions in different parts of the city. These reports were accompanied by criticism of Chinese President Xi Jinping, who had arrived in #Moscow the day before.

    At the same time, a Western agenda was being worked on, condemning the Chinese government's activities. The attempted strike on #Crimea was presented as "punishment for friendship with #China".

    📌 Differences from previous Actions

    The AFU once again changed tactics. The attack was carried out without NATO reconnaissance aircraft in the air. Neither Global Hawk nor Reaper were in the air at night.

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    Post  kvs Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:28 pm



    Time to bring the pain to NATzO. Attack underwater cables, oil platforms and other targets. The scumbag move to contaminate
    Russian lands is not merely crossing a red line.

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    Post  kvs Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:30 pm

    The claim about DU rounds being effective is utter BS. So are tungsten rounds since tungsten has the same density as uranium and that is the physics
    involved in the "effectiveness". This is a sore loser move by utter scum.

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    Post  ucmvulcan Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:42 pm

    John, Russia could be using psychological weaponry, but far more likely there is a large part of the Ukrehrmacht in mental hospitals because they were already cuckoo before this war and the stress of the thing has just bought their preexisting nuttery to the surface. I think some heavy metals delivered at 300 rounds a minute will do wonders for the mental health of those crazies.

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:44 pm

    DU is effective because uranium is not only dense and hard, it's pyrophoric, so it punches through armor due to its density first, then the fragments light up like a shower of super hot thermite inside the target.

    It's also quite cheap compared to tungsten AFAIK.

    Problem is that even "depleted" uranium is mildly radioactive, and while not a problem in case of external exposure (handling it etc), it becomes a problem if ingested or breathed in, as the body's natural defenses against ionizing radiation (the dead outer skin layer etc) are bypassed.

    When used in projectiles, it creates a lot of this potentially carcinogenic dust, that is easily ingested and that can irradiate unprotected, living cells from within.

    Like most/all heavy metals, it is also chemically toxic, so there is that too.

    So the shit lingers on in the environment and is pretty clearly a major reason for excess cancer rates and civilian post-war deaths in Serbia, Iraq etc.


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    Post  Kiko Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:46 pm

    Putin: Russia will have to react if the West starts using weapons with a nuclear component, 03.21.2023.

    Russian President Vladimir Putin declared that the British initiative to supply Kiev with depleted uranium projectiles means that the West has decided to fight Russia to the last Ukrainian, not with words, but with actions.

    Russia will be forced to react when the collective West starts using weapons with a nuclear component, the Russian president said.

    "I would like to point out in this regard that if all this happens, Russia will have to respond accordingly, taking into account that the collective West is already starting to use weapons with a nuclear component," he declared.

    Also, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu indicated that the British initiative to supply such ammunition represents another step: "There is only one thing to say here. There are not many steps... One more step has been taken, there are fewer and fewer left."

    "This prompts us to think seriously about the further course of events, about how we can respond," Shoigu said.

    The minister also noted that NATO had already used this type of ammunition "when the events in Kosovo, Serbia took place, when they massively bombed, without any sanctions, without any permission, peaceful cities and destroyed bridges".

    As military expert Konstantin Sivkov told Sputnik, the use of depleted uranium projectiles threatens the health of civilians, polluting the area and causing cancer outbreaks.

    Earlier, on March 21, British Deputy Defense Minister Annabel Goldie stated that the country will supply Ukraine with depleted uranium ammunition to support Kiev in the midst of the Russian military operation.

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    https://sputniknews.lat/20230321/putin-rusia-tendra-que-reaccionar-si-occidente-empieza-a-usar-armas-con-un-componente-nuclear-1137142323.html

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