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    Post  ALAMO Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:00 pm

    One more failed try to penetrate the Ruskie defensive.

    https://t.me/SIL0VIKI/63854

    The comments are the best part.

    Khokhols are being simply decimated, multiple hits of ATGM taking out the APCs.

    It is a Gulay-Pole direction.

    There is one more film I can't find now, but folks in the trenches are kind of surprised that they have broken through, but sneaking would be a better world.
    Seems that they are a second line or flanking position, and just enjoying the show seeing the outcome.

    Edit : I have found that.

    https://t.me/boris_rozhin/80521

    Folks are kind of surprised and dizzy about who is being fried in front of them. "Ours? Not ours. Seriously?"

    Edit 2 : watched that again, and I would guess those are not ATGMs but just artillery piercing them ...

    Edit 3 :

    Yup, it didn't goRussian special military operation in Ukraine #40 - Page 11 Photo149
    well ...



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    Post  Arrow Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:46 pm



    https://t.me/rybar/44682

    Continuation of the Ukrainian attack.

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Mar 15, 2023 9:32 pm

    Summary of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the progress of a special military operation (15.03.2023)

    In Kupyansk direction, the attacks, launched by Ground-Assault and Army aviation, as well as artillery of the 'Zapad' Group of Forces, have resulted in the neutralization of AFU manpower and hardware near Grianikovka, Styopovaya Novosyolovka and Timkovka (Kharkov region).

    The enemy losses were up to 70 servicemen, one armored fighting vehicle, three pickup trucks, two motor vehicles, one Gvozdika self-propelled artillery system, one D-20 howitzer, and one Polish-manufactured Krab self-propelled howitzer.

    In Krasny Liman direction, the attacks, launched by Ground-Assault and Army aviation, as well as artillery and heavy flamethrower systems of the 'Tsentr' Group of Forces, have resulted in the neutralization of the enemy units near Terny, Torskoye, Grigorovka (Donetsk People's Republic), Chervonaya Dibrova and Nevskoye (Lugansk People's Republic).

    The enemy losses were over 235 Ukrainian servicemen, two armored fighting vehicles, four pickup trucks, one D-20 howitzer, two Akatsiya and Gvozdika self-propelled artillery systems, as well as one U.S. manufactured M777 artillery system.

    In Donetsk direction, the attacks, launched by aviation, as well as artillery of the 'Yug' Group of Forces, have resulted in the neutralization of up to 160 Ukrainian servicemen, one tank, one infantry fighting vehicle, two armored fighting vehicles and four motor vehicles.

    The attacks have also resulted in the neutralization of one Akatsia self-propelled artillery system, one D-20 howitzer, two Grad and Uragan MLRS, as well as one M777 artillery system and one U.S.-manufactured M109 Paladin self-propelled howitzer.

    Three ammunition depots of the Armed Forces of Ukraine have also been destroyed near Dachnoye, Galicynovka and Novosyolovka Pervaya (Donetsk People's Republic).

    In South Donetsk and Zaporozhye directions, Operational-Tactical and Army Aviation, as well as artillery of the 'Vostok' Group of Forces have launched fire attack against the AFU units near Ugledar, Prechistovka (Donetsk People's Republic), and Scherbaki (Zaporozhye region).

    Moreover, one sabotage and reconnaissance group of the enemy has been eliminated near Novodanilovka (Zaporozhye region).
    The enemy losses were up to 75 soldiers, three armored fighting vehicles, four pickup trucks and one Akatsiya self-propelled artillery system.

    In Kherson direction, as a result of the shelling the enemy losses were 35 Ukrainian servicemen, six motor vehicles and one D-30 howitzer.

    Operational-Tactical and Army aviation, Missile Troops and Artillery of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation have neutralized 101th AFU artillery unit at their firing positions, manpower and hardware in 197 areas.

    Three radar stations of Ukrainian S-300 air defense missile systems have been uncovered and destroyed near Ukrainsk, Novodmitrovka and Krasnoye (Donetsk People's Republic).

    Fighter Aviation of Russian Aerospace Forces has shot down one Mi-8 helicopter of Ukrainian Air Force near Uspenovka (Zaporozhye region).

    Air defense facilities have intercepted 15 projectiles of HIMARS, Uragan and Olkha MBRLS, as well as 7 UAVs near Okop, Dvurechnoye (Kharkov region), Pervomaysk, Pokrovskoye (Lugansk People's Republic), Yegorovka (Donetsk People's Republic) and Balochki (Zaporozhye region).

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Mar 15, 2023 9:40 pm

    Just to give you some anchor.

    Ret. Col. McGregor is obviously one of the most distinguished military men the US ever had.
    A true patriot - no sarcasm.
    Being a patriot is nothing wrong.
    I am a patriot.
    True patriots would sign the deals in 15 min if appointed to the task.



    Mark 1:55  and following.

    But SURE history remembers MULTIPLE cases when the interception was made by ramming.

    Chinese are notorious with that, remind me when they killed a P-8 the last time?

    Not during wartime, but on a daily routine.

    So we have a respected guy, who simply lacks knowledge about some particular part of things.

    Beware of false prophets, and take everything with your own knowledge.
    If it lacks - educate.
    Don't take things for granted.

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    Post  Hole Wed Mar 15, 2023 9:52 pm

    Exist from #Bakhmut small groups walking out.
    Looks fun.

    Anyways, if F-35s are getting this close ( odd behaviour for a stealth aircraft) then Mig 31s need to be heavily armed with BVR A2A missiles.
    This is a "meeting" in international airspace. That´s why the F-35 is allowed to come close.
    The MiG-31 is armed with 4 R-33 or R-37M missiles.

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    Post  Kiko Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:02 pm

    Gerasimov had a telephone conversation with the Chief of the US General Staff, 03.15.2023.

    Chiefs of the General Staffs of Russia and the United States Gerasimov and Milley had a telephone conversation.

    MOSCOW, March 15 - RIA Novosti. In the development of telephone conversations between the defense ministers of the Russian Federation and the United States, a conversation took place between Chief of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces Valery Gerasimov and Chairman of the Committee of Chiefs of Staff of the US Armed Forces Mark Milley, the Russian Defense Ministry reported.

    "In the development of telephone conversations between the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation and the Secretary of Defense of the United States of America, on March 15, 2023, a telephone conversation took place between the Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation - First Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation, General of the Army Valery Gerasimov and the Chairman of the Committee of the Chiefs of Staff of the United States Armed Forces America General Mark Milley," the ministry said.

    Earlier, the Russian Defense Ministry reported that, at the initiative of the American side, telephone conversations were held between Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu and Pentagon chief  Lloyd Austin.

    https://ria.ru/20230315/peregovory-1858169506.html

    This Austin is a clown. Better speak to Milley proper.


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    Post  Hole Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:27 pm

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #40 - Page 11 Frr31f10
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    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #40 - Page 11 Frramm10
    Little off topic.
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    You can´t have enough cauldrons.

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    Post  Stealthflanker Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:33 am

    They should really get done with Avdeevka soon and give People in city of Donetsk a well deserved calm.

    I'm curious tho if there would be another push to Kharkov and Sumy to give Russian mainland some buffer zone.

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    Post  lancelot Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:37 am

    Ret. Col. McGregor is obviously one of the most distinguished military men the US ever had.
    ...
    But SURE history remembers MULTIPLE cases when the interception was made by ramming.

    Chinese are notorious with that, remind me when they killed a P-8 the last time?
    ...
    So we have a respected guy, who simply lacks knowledge about some particular part of things.
    That is perfectly normal. McGregor is US Army who used to be in Cavalry. He was part of one the major tank battles the US fought in Desert Storm. So he is basically a tank warfare expert.

    I do not expect him to know aviation that well.

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    Post  Backman Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:36 am

    - Something about that drone/su 27 footage (the drone) looks a bit CGI. So I dunno about that one. Maybe other footage will come up.

    -Russia probably didn't shoot at it to keep it intact. The thing is huge. If it flopped into the water , they will probably get the fuselage minus the the wings fully intact. Yes it probably has some fancy shit on board that will be fun to have a look at. But it is probably all a bit overrated by the techno autists.

    Flightradar 24 is a Anglo axis shill. They said "oh we don't track Reapers or Predators. Umm yes you do. They were probably told to take down the data from it. They probably had the transponder on at least until it got to the area from Italy.

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    Post  GarryB Thu Mar 16, 2023 5:06 am

    Yeah I'm sure Grom is free in comparison.

    Certainly not free, but not corruption like US weapons...

    Clearly every Grom ever hit it's target like this one.

    Earlier in the war such photos would include images showing the background and location, but this time they do not... what are they hiding... if it was near a shop or a hospital or church they would show how close it was to such things, but this image they don't show things nearby... I wonder why...

    JSOW has basically equivalent range to the rocket assisted Grom with high altitude deployed.

    The publicly stated max range for JSOW is made up, we don't even know the max range of the GROM with the rocket booster... if it was deployed by the MiG-31BM in a SEAD role its range would be enormous being released at mach 2.5 and 18km altitude its performance could be amazing against enemy air defence systems and equipment, but even the 40km range against ground targets is rather good with over 600kgs of HE...

    U.S intended to use these JSOW along with other PGMs to target Russian armoured columns, especially MBTs. China too has armed its fighter jets with similar PGMs in order to target Indian tank columns. Therefore, Indian T-72s are receiving a Camouflage suite ( link to my previous post below). I think Russia should immediately issue similar Camouflage suits for their tanks so that NATO's chances of hitting Russian tank columns with PGMs goes down drastically.

    Camouflage is always a good idea but camouflage on a column of vehicles driving down roads wont be particularly effective most of the time just by the nature of the target...

    Unpowered bombs are stupid. You factor in the cost of risking pilots and airframe making high risk maneuvers in the face of long range air defences to dump these bombs with as much energy as possible and suddenly that rocket doesn't seem so expensive anymore.

    Depends on the conflict of course... In Syria for example the Russians could deploy dumb bombs safely from altitude and take the time to get good accuracy and effectiveness from a cheap weapon system.

    For the US you would think with their amazing technology and amazing avionics they could do the same as what the G&T system achieves, but why bother because the companies that make avionics don't want to step on the toes of the companies that make expensive guided bombs.

    The thing this conflict shows is the enormous range of guided weapons Russia has to deal with different problems and different situations...

    Flightradar 24 is a Anglo axis shill. They said "oh we don't track Reapers or Predators. Umm yes you do. They were probably told to take down the data from it. They probably had the transponder on at least until it got to the area from Italy.

    The transponder is sending identification and location data to any receiver that receives such data like airfields and radar stations... civilian and military.

    Whether any website decides to publish its position or not if the transponder is off the locals would notice that it is on military radar but not on civilian radar.

    Which is grounds enough to shoot it down as it approached Crimean airspace... remember that was the excuse for shooting down those balloons that were floating harmlessly over the US and Canada.

    That drone would be filled with all sorts of recon electronics that would very much be worth a look even just to see what it could see.

    That video above is likely not real... DCS?

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    Post  TMA1 Thu Mar 16, 2023 6:16 am

    So I just watched David Patraeus compare our foreign policy as a clown in a circus spinning plates on sticks.

    ...... lol!

    Guess anons were right you just meme the dream till it becomes a reality.

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Mar 16, 2023 7:56 am

    That is perfectly normal. McGregor is US Army who used to be in Cavalry. He was part of one the major tank battles the US fought in Desert Storm. So he is basically a tank warfare expert.

    I do not expect him to know aviation that well.


    Well ... yes and no.
    You know that. I know that. Other folks here know that either.
    And some of us know some shit about the tanks, too Twisted Evil
    While not being a talking heads, right?
    That is my point.
    Watching them in a regular manner, everybody will spot the issue.
    They are talking about everything while lacking clue in some cases.
    That is why taking everything for granted is a risky business.

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    Post  Sujoy Thu Mar 16, 2023 9:51 am

    Hole wrote:This is a "meeting" in international airspace. That´s why the F-35 is allowed to come close.
    The MiG-31 is armed with 4 R-33 or R-37M missiles.
    Was the Mig 31 there to escort the Su-24?

    GarryB wrote:Camouflage is always a good idea but camouflage on a column of vehicles driving down roads wont be particularly effective most of the time just by the nature of the target.
    I doubt that. Camouflaging a tank column makes sense, especially when NATO is using PGMs to hit these columns.
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    Post  Kiko Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:17 am

    Russian troops advance in Marinka, 03.16.2023.

    Pushilin: Russian troops are advancing in Marinka, despite the supply of reserves by Kiev.

    MOSCOW, March 16 - RIA Novosti. Although Ukraine is constantly transferring reserves to Maryinka, the systematic advance of Russian troops continues there, Denis Pushilin, acting head of the DPR, said.

    "The enemy is doing everything possible to drag out the time (for the liberation of Maryinka - ed.). Fierce battles have been going on there for about a month and a half, but at the same time, units are advancing and grinding a huge amount of the enemy, whose reserves are being transferred on a permanent basis," Pushilin said on air TV channel "Russia 24".

    Marinka is a suburb of Donetsk , located one kilometer from the Petrovsky district of the capital of the DPR. Significant positions of Ukrainian forces are located there, this is one of the points from where Donetsk is regularly subjected to artillery shelling.

    https://ria.ru/20230316/marinka-1858254920.html

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    Post  mavaff Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:04 am

    US released the drone video. Pretty clear to me that Su-27 harrassed it.. Very Happy

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    Post  nomadski Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:22 am


    So Ukrs have large numbers of men , capable of being mobilised . Maybe 500,000 troops or more ? So these potential troops are now civilians ? Innocent civilians that work in the fields or factories ? And they not only not resist the Nazis , but put on uniforms , when asked ? How many of these captured Ukrs troops , are fresh recruits ? And how many are old hands , professional soldiers ? Have the Ukrs population , not realised the nature of own government ?

    They are really no laws that govern war . The very definition of war , negates any notion of law . The only law that exists is the law of the Jungle or nature . Anyone in a potential position to kill , will kill . There is no neutrality in peacetime , let alone wartime , or indeed nature itself . All is violent . And if you think , there is something wrong with human society that is violent or nature that is violent , then don't blame me or Adolf Hitler , blame God ! He made the world .

    So the yanks intend to be participants to the war , directly or indirectly ? The drone that crashed , was a professional upset for them . More can crash and should crash . And if the position of Russia changed with Ukraine , do you think that their Nazi population , would not starve Russians to death ? We are the victims of our own misplaced idealism . Conjuring fairy-tales of neutrality or proletarian internationalism or the UN or the Geneva convention......We think that there is something wrong with the violent world ! Or the violent human society .




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    Post  famschopman Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:35 am

    It indeed looks like the propellor was clipped by the SU27, in the second pass. One of the blades was bend on the tip, you can see it in the last frames. I don't see a serious disturbance in the flight path though; the MQ-9 stays surprisingly stable but maybe this caused a serious balance issue in the propellor.
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    Post  TMA1 Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:15 pm

    Some of the coolest footage I've seen in awhile. It will be remembered. I dont think it was wise of them to release it. The dashing and devil-may-care meter is thru the roof for this pilot now for many Russians.

    Edit: nomadski I dont think Russia has much of a choice in what they must do. Question now is how well they do what they do. I think we will only truly know many years from now. Fog of war too thick. All we can do is hope the crazy neocons and neolibs relent in their relentless "containment" strategies. One can hope while being aware it has very little chance.


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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:25 pm

    as for drone video.. why did they need like 2 days to release it? editing ? deep fake nhancement?

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:28 pm

    It would take a few days for things to go through the clearance process, as multiple people and departments need to give the ok, you can't just go "This is okay now, release it"
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    Post  Hole Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:32 pm

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    Another HARMless missile fell to the ground
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    Post  Backman Thu Mar 16, 2023 4:28 pm

    The whole clip looks real until after the screen goes snowy
    Then the picture comes back for a moment and it allegedly shows one of the prop blades bent over on the end. Which would never happen. A blade either contacted the su 27 and shattered or it didn't. Plus there was no 2nd pass. It was 2 shots of one pass.

    Here's the prop blade bent over on the end

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    Post  flamming_python Thu Mar 16, 2023 4:35 pm

    Looks like bullshit but I'm no expert
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    Post  Backman Thu Mar 16, 2023 4:35 pm

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