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    Post  kvs Tue Mar 14, 2023 12:05 am

    The most recent Mercouris video paints a picture of desperation on the part of the Kiev regime. This includes diverting troops from the Belorus border
    and the Kremenaya-Svatovo area. The Kiev regime is throwing some of its best units into the Bakhmut meat grinder. So they do not have a
    steady supply of fresh meat. We already had indication of this when boys and old men were being conscripted.

    The Russia fly-trap or meat-grinder approach is working. Too many arm chair generals are calling for "big arrow" operations that would only
    succeed in redeploying the forces that Kiev has into an insurgency which Russia would waste hundreds of thousands of men to pacify over
    years. Having these Kiev regime troops to be flung on a front is ideal.

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    Post  mnztr Tue Mar 14, 2023 12:21 am

    If there's a rush to deal with urban fortifications we all know that napalm was invented long ago (rules went out the window long ago as well so it's all good) Otherwise just do Monte Casino like Python suggested Just don't go around pussyfooting and everything will be peachy wrote:

    Montecassino was a tactical disaster, I think thermobarics are idea for this type of situation as they cause death by asphyxiation, so even the well dug in troops will die. I am hearted to hear the VKS is now being used to pummel strong points so the infantry can advance faster and with less casualties.

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    Post  xeno Tue Mar 14, 2023 1:55 am

    "Operations of RF drone crew of spotting and striking with the Lancet Drone"
    This is the best video I have ever seen on how they used drone until today.
    Bdw, they also used ZALA at the beginning of the video not only lancet(type 1 or 3 not type 5).
    And the protection gears that drone controller wore are awesome, heavy, covering more body and looked very clean unlike the rest of russian soldiers soaking in the muddy pits for 6 months.
    Very good video...

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    Post  GarryB Tue Mar 14, 2023 6:07 am

    But I just dont think the western elites wish to share power with peers and so if Russia is knocked out, China would be the only ones remaining to resist (scary thought of the chicoms and globohomo being the only two powers). I think China needs Russia as much as Russia needs China.

    The west has been trying to knock out Russia for centuries and recently their clumsy attempts have just made it stronger and more independent and less inclined to cooperate and work with the west.

    Putin is the pro west Russian politician and the west has been treating him like shit because they think he is weak and Russia is weak.

    The west is about to find out how weak they are... their house of cards requires a third world to steal from and to sell things to... Russia and China are working with other countries to help development and growth and a comfortable life be accessible to everyone and not just rich white robber barons of countries in the west.

    Most countries are already listening and are liking what they hear and don't believe the west any more because they are full of shit.... and unwilling to change.

    I have a fear sometimes that the Chinese and the west want to split the world between them as powers.

    China does not want to replace the US in its leadership role of running the world... most of that is in Americas head anyway.

    China wants a free fair world where every country gets to make their own choices and choose their own religion or form of government and not have the US telling everyone what is OK and what is not... because they are so selective about it when they do.

    Putin is evil because he hates gay people, but American police kill black people all the time and most of the time nothing happens... there is no justice... and of course middle east countries execute people for being gay but being gay in Russia is not even illegal.

    But I just dont think the western elites wish to share power with peers and so if Russia is knocked out, China would be the only ones remaining to resist (scary thought of the chicoms and globohomo being the only two powers). I think China needs Russia as much as Russia needs China.

    For as long as they can remember the western elites have used their power and priviledge to improve their wealth and use poverty as a weapon with sanctions and attempts at forcing isolation to countries like Cuba and North Korea and Iran and many other countries like Russia and China, and they want to hold on to power because they ignorantly fear Russia and China want that power and if they ever achieve that power they will use it to make the west poor.

    The amusing thing is that Russian and China are sick of the west using it power for evil and actually think no country or organisation should have such power... they want the US out but don't want themselves or anyone else to take over.

    Look at what EU power has done to Brussels... unelected officials destroying an entire continent bowing to the US despite the US not caring about any interests but their own.

    Russia is the wests enemy... but only because the west made them so, and they are making the same mistake with China.

    I don't think Iran and Saudi Arabia will be best buddies any time soon but there is no need for so much energy and money and lives to be wasted in conflict between them either.

    If they can do it, then perhaps China and India can learn to get along too and if peace breaks out everywhere WTF is the US going to do... they hate peace and stability, because their citizens will expect to recover and prosper from the panicked times and I doubt the US government could deliver on that any time soon.

    Well why would Xi keep pressing for some kind of peace deal?

    Kiev wont accept it so it makes no difference anyway.

    Even if they did Russia can't trust them at any level... even if guaranteed by Britain and the US and Germany and France because they are not neutral parties in this.

    The Chinese always favored an opportunistic and capitalistic culture. No emotion, no empathy, just focused on stone cold business practice.

    You make that sound bad but compared with the viscous nasty US who take every opportunity to damage and screw with any enemy that has ever slighted them they are angels that follow simple and predictable rules... you can work with the Chinese... unlike the west who are scum.

    A large part of Chinas economy is still making cheap shit for the west so they can hardly go hardcore anti west and jump right into bed with Russia because the cost would be enormous.

    They understand the US is damaged goods and dangerous but they buy Chinese shit and they don't follow the western policy of using your custom to control people.

    I have never demanded my local supermarket owner be of this or that religion or I am shopping elsewhere... but the west does that now... it is their thing.

    The thing is that for the west and for the US an ally and a friend is a country that does as it is told when it is told without question or complaint even when they know it is wrong.

    For Russia and China and most normal countries you can ask other countries to do things but you shouldn't try to force them if it is not in their interests... you could argue that a friend would do it because that is what friends do, but then equally you could argue as a real friend you should not be getting them to do things against their interests just because it suits your interests and not theirs.

    Protecting lives in the Russian World, protecting Russia from attack, restoring ancient Russian lands, destroying Nazism are non negotiable. If China can't accept that, then China is no different to Uncle Sham, Nuland, McCain and hairsniffing Joe.

    China does not want to support Russia in Ukraine because it has implications over Taiwan... right now China things Taiwan is the Donbass or Crimea... if they support Russia then what is to stop the US saying well if you think the vote in Crimea makes Crimea a new Russian federation member then how about a vote in Taiwan to become a new US state... of course China wont agree to support Russia, but the fact that they have not tried to punish Russia for what China thinks is Russian business and they saw all the bullshit the west did to create this situation... they are just saying that the west made their bed and now they can lie in it.

    China has its own interests...

    It is the west that is interfering in Russian interests and China is staying out of it which is all Russia can expect from them as they wont want to risk their own interests.

    Of course the west can't help themselves and will be pushing Taiwan soon enough and I rather expect China will expect Russia to not help the west or cut China off from energy and resources coming over their mutual border, but I don't think they will want Russia to declare war on anyone over it either.

    Man may also grow wings on his back and learn to fly in whatever years/decades time, but the odds of that happening are about the same as China launching a war against Russia.

    China can buy anything it wants from Russia at the moment... an open conflict would likely destroy both countries, which is why the US has been wet dreaming such a situation for a century and would do everything they could to make that happen, but China benefits from increasing trade with Russia and the rest of the world, and Russia benefits with increasing trade with China and the rest of the world. The only side that would benefit from a conflict would be the west... they love wars.

    Europe, Russia's natural ally (in this theory)

    Nemesis... in practice Europe has either tried to rule or dominate or simply to destroy Russia or the Soviet Union at various times... even when the Soviets were smashing Hitlers army you couldn't call it a friendship.

    There are no friends in Geopolitical matters, only interests.

    That is American bullshit used to explain why they treat allies like shit and yet sometimes cooperate with enemies when it suits them.

    All countries have interests but recognising other countries have interests too and trying to work together so everyone gets something out of the arrangements and no country just gets shat on all the time from everyone is how things should work with say BRICS.

    With the US centred west the US is on top and everyone else has an umbrella rated for shit and heavier...



    Unlike the lapdogs in NATO, Russia isn't looking for another country to be its 'Daddy'.

    Russia doesn't tell other countries what to do and does not expect to be told by other countries what to do... they are not and do not want to be the US.

    BRICS, as it expands is a group of countries where no country will dominate and lead and abuse... that is the point... and why it is different and better than the west which is a pyramid scheme which benefits only the US... not that the taxpayers in the US would actually notice ironically.

    No sign of that ECM since Ukraine has been using GPS guided shells and missiles the entire time without issue.

    Better to just shoot them down most of the time.

    The jammers don't have unlimited range and would be with Army forces amongst the electronic warfare troops... most GPS guided HIMARS seem to be directed at civilian targets that are not directly protected.

    JDAM kits cost about $25k per kit, not sure why you think that's expensive for the US. Thank you for repeating the marketing brochure material about SVP-24. A guided round that isn't expensive, as JDAM is, is always a more effective solution.

    The SVP-24 is an upgrade for existing types, new generation aircraft already have such things built in to their avionics.

    Not sure where you got your price from, but I very much doubt it.... Excalibr is about $80K... and JDAM and Excalibr are not that useful except for war crimes when the enemy you are fighting has an effective air defence that shoots such things down easily enough.

    Check out Zaporozhye defense line- the MOD certainly does not think Ukraine has thrown everything, far from it:

    That trench line is incomplete... having sheet metal on top of the trenches is pathetic... concealment but not cover... a drone dropping hand grenades would be dangerous over such trenches... they need sandbags and earth roofs like the bunker in the background...

    The Chinese are no fools. And they also need Russia as much as Russia needs them. So if Mr. Xi does come up with an unacceptable for Russia proposal for real, then thanks but no thanks Mr. Xi

    Russia is no more obliged to accept a Chinese peace deal in the Ukraine than China is obliged to accept a peace deal with Taiwan that Russia puts forward.

    The whole BRICS thing is freedom of choice based on your own interests.

    This means the VKS is no longer just supporting ground operations here and there but conducting
    "special" operations like the accelerated hunt for radars and AD systems.

    And should also be better able to mount mass air attacks on an advancing enemy ground force too...

    Otherwise just do Monte Casino like Python suggested

    Yeah, be careful what you wish for... Monte Casino was a total fuckup that nobody should try to copy.

    The building in question was a centuries old abbey that the Americans decided to bomb because they thought the Germans occupied it... they didn't.

    But after the Americans bombed the abbey the Germans moved their forces in to the rubble and were orders of magnitude harder to remove from the rubble than the positions they previously occupied.

    Just don't go around pussyfooting and everything will be peachy

    They thought all they had to do was bomb the place and that would be it... they were totally wrong of course... turning it to rubble made it easier to defend and harder to take.

    We don't know. When a whole nation is taken prisoner, it adds up. Lets low ball it and say there's 10 million ppl left in Ukraine. And half are men. That's still 5 million men to throw in.
    The US is training the cocksuckers concurrently. They are always training and always assembling more men.

    They have already started conscripting women... and no rotation out of the front line... they are already "recruiting" reluctant men... as the reluctant men increase in numbers how long will the nazis get away with sending in the corpses and being safe themselves.

    How long before they accept their fate as being dead men and realise who their real enemies are... those with connections not going to the front...

    Montecassino was a tactical disaster, I think thermobarics are idea for this type of situation as they cause death by asphyxiation, so even the well dug in troops will die. I am hearted to hear the VKS is now being used to pummel strong points so the infantry can advance faster and with less casualties.

    The Germans were not even in the Abbey they bombed so even if they used nukes would not have helped... it was a total cockup.

    This is the best video I have ever seen on how they used drone until today.
    Bdw, they also used ZALA at the beginning of the video not only lancet(type 1 or 3 not type 5).

    They use both together, the Zala to find targets and the Lancet to hit them... the Lancet can be faster and with less endurance because it does not make sense to loiter around with such a visible drone... it would get shot down easily at altitudes looking for targets.

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Mar 14, 2023 6:21 am

    Post  PapaDragon Yesterday at 11:09 pm
    If there's a rush to deal with urban fortifications we all know that napalm was invented long ago (rules went out the window long ago as well so it's all good)
    Otherwise just do Monte Casino like Python suggested
    Just don't go around pussyfooting and everything will be peachy


    Is there any chance that we will ever record your entry in a matter that you know anything about, just to mark the difference to the daily practice?
    Napalm is an incendiary weapon with minimal effectiveness against any type of fortification.
    Yes, I know, you have watched the Platoon movie, so have an expert degree.

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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Mar 14, 2023 6:49 am


    Napalm leaks into trenches just fine

    Since Russians are having such massive issues with handling some holes dug into the ground despite overwhelming superiority in numbers and firepower they may want to apply some basic science to the problem



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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Mar 14, 2023 6:55 am

    GarryB wrote:Yeah, be careful what you wish for... Monte Casino was a total fuckup that nobody should try to copy.

    The building in question was a centuries old abbey that the Americans decided to bomb because they thought the Germans occupied it... they didn't.

    But after the Americans bombed the abbey the Germans moved their forces in to the rubble and were orders of magnitude harder to remove from the rubble than the positions they previously occupied.

    There aren't any historic abbeys in Ukraine (don't really see why that shit would matter anyway, it's Ukraine)

    And if Ukrainians are still alive after first pass just give it another one and another one after that to hammer the point home

    Things never work when you halfass it and give up halfway through

    Unless Russia really is running low on ordinance?





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    Post  billybatts91 Tue Mar 14, 2023 7:13 am

    Interesting...

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    Post  d_taddei2 Tue Mar 14, 2023 7:20 am

    lol!

    Head of Wagner paramilitary group says he intends to run for president in Ukraine

    https://www.aa.com.tr/en/politics/head-of-wagner-paramilitary-group-says-he-intends-to-run-for-president-in-ukraine/2843138

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:08 am

    New post  PapaDragon Today at 7:49 am
    Napalm leaks into trenches just fine


    No, it does not, that is why my question remains valid.
    Napalm is nothing more than thickened fuel. It can be made of gasoline. Or diesel. Or vegetable oil if needed.
    Actually sticks to the surface it falls on. It has the consistency of toothpaste.
    Today's mixture is gelled with polystyrene, which does the same as aluminum salts used to do - increasing the burning temperature and time.
    Kind of similar mixture is often called "napalm" and was used for the flamethrowers, but it is semantics only. It has a different composition and slightly different working principals - chemicals are combined to maximize the deoxidization and creating as much carbon oxides as possible to effectively make a kill in closed spaces.
    In modern military was replaced a long time ago with more advanced chemicals.
    Like termite that burns at 4x higher temperatures.
    Or FAE that creates a blast wave with both high and low pressure.

    There aren't any historic abbeys in Ukraine (don't really see why that shit would matter anyway, it's Ukraine)

    You are getting more and more clown mode. clown

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    Post  Firebird Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:17 am

    @Billybatts
    Judging by the right hand pic, and the bear's right paw.... he certainly isn't shy! 😂


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    Post  Kiko Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:21 am

    Fighter "Wagner" told how the defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Artemovsk, 03.14.2023.

    Fighter "Wagner" said that Kyiv is working with all types of weapons in the Artemivsk direction.

    BERHOVKA (DPR), March 14 - RIA Novosti. The Ukrainian defense in the direction of Chasov Yar near Artemovsk will soon collapse, a Wagner Group fighter told RIA Novosti.

    “Here they hold the defense quite well, but in a day or two it crumbles all the same,” the source said.

    He noted that Russian forces "break through" the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in a few days, despite the active resistance of the enemy.

    “For us, they have aviation involved, turntables (helicopters. — Approx. ed.) take off seven or eight times during a daylight hours. Helicopters and planes do not work on armored vehicles, but work on manpower, that is, on us, in trenches and forest plantations," the fighter said.

    The interlocutor of the agency also reported on the tactics of tanks used by the enemy - the so-called tank carousel - during the assault on the village of Berkhovka by Wagner fighters.

    “Roughly speaking, a tank battalion stood there. Each tank threw thirty (30 shots. — Approx. ed.), the battalion left, the other drove in. <…> And this happened to them all day,” the fighter explained.

    At the same time, the Armed Forces of Ukraine equipped positions near residential buildings in advance.

    https://ria.ru/20230314/artemovsk-1857684585.html

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:50 am

    Lots more gifts incoming all over the place

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    Post  Kiko Tue Mar 14, 2023 10:10 am

    Russian forces took control of part of the AZOM plant in Artemovsk. 03.14.2023.

    Russian forces took control of one of the premises of the AZOM plant in Artemovsk.

    LUGANSK, March 14 - RIA Novosti. Russian units took control of one of the premises of the Vostokmash enterprise in the Artemovsky non-ferrous metal processing plant (AZOM) in Artemovsk, a source from the scene told RIA Novosti.

    "Back in December 20, Zelensky was awarding the Ukrainian military here," the source said.

    The day before, the commander of the Ukrainian ground forces, Alexander Syrsky, called the situation in Artemovsk difficult for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. He noted that the Russian military is advancing in several directions, threatening Ukrainian defenses and moving towards the central areas of the city.

    On Sunday, the commander of one of the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Denis Yaroslavsky, did not rule out that Artemivsk could turn out to be another boiler for the Ukrainian army. He recalled the fighting in Debaltseve in 2015, when the Donetsk militias surrounded the forces of the Kyiv regime, and the cauldron became the scene of fierce fighting.

    https://ria.ru/20230314/azom-1857742842.html

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    Post  Hole Tue Mar 14, 2023 12:44 pm

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    Double cauldron coming up?
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    Post  Kiko Tue Mar 14, 2023 1:10 pm

    The Russian military occupied the plant in Artemovsk, where Zelensky was rewarding the militants of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, by Alexandra Yudina for VZGLYAD. 03.14.2023.

    The Russian military occupied the Vostokmash plant in Artemovsk, where Zelensky was rewarding the militants of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

    The Russian military took control of the Vostokmash plant in the north of the industrial zone of the Non-Ferrous Metals Plant in Artemovsk, where Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky awarded distinguished Ukrainian militants in late December.

    In the Telegram channel "Wagner Orchestra | Wagner, it is reported that the Russian military approached the Vostokmash plant in the north of the industrial zone of the Non-ferrous Metals Plant in Artemovsk.

    One of the premises of the enterprise inside the Artemovsky non-ferrous metal processing plant (AZOM) completely passed under their control, the Ukrainian militants were forced to leave the territory, RIA Novosti reports.

    AZOM was built in 1954, it occupies a vast territory in the center of Artemovsk. Designed with a huge network of underground communications, which goes underground for dozens of floors. AZOM is designed with a possible nuclear conflict in mind.

    Earlier it was reported that the defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the direction of Chasov Yar near Artemovsk would soon collapse.

    Western media wrote that due to the loss of experienced fighters, the quality of the Ukrainian armed forces has decreased , Ukrainian officials doubt the ability of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to launch the so-called spring counteroffensive.

    https://vz.ru/news/2023/3/14/1203053.html

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    Post  Sujoy Tue Mar 14, 2023 2:11 pm

    Contrary to popular Western narrative that Russian T-72, T-90 tanks are taking a beating truth is NATO is unwilling to release details about how many tanks provided to Ukraine by NATO were lost in combat.

    Given that NATO is largely relying on PGMs to target Russian tanks, all that I want Russian forces to do is to integrated Mobile Camouflage System for protection in static & dynamic state for their tanks.

    Indian T-72s are already receiving this kit. This camouflage kit will:

    1. Obscure target & fool smart munitions

    2. Dust cloud prevention & internal heat reduction

    3. Multi spectral self signature management & reduction in
    a. Visual & near IR
    b. Thermal
    c. Radar 8-12GHz

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Mar 14, 2023 2:12 pm

    Reality called Jihad Julian again.

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    Yup, Putin's agent at his best!

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    Post  The-thing-next-door Tue Mar 14, 2023 2:37 pm

    I must say the lack of use of thermobaric bombs or napalm by the Russians is dissapointing.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Tue Mar 14, 2023 2:46 pm

    @Alamo

    knock knock

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    Rostec: "The ammunition industry has actually switched to a wartime mode"

    MOSCOW, March 14 - RIA Novosti. The Russian ammunition industry began to work in fact in wartime mode, for some items the output was increased many times over, RIA Novosti was told at the state corporation Rostec.
    "The industry is rapidly shipping ammunition of all types - from cartridges to high-precision missiles, to meet the needs of the troops. The ammunition industry has actually embarked on a military footing: production has grown many times, and for some types of products - dozens of times," the corporation said, responding to the question about the rate of production of ammunition for the needs of a special military operation.

    https://ria.ru/20230314/boepripasy-1857769391.html


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    Post  RTN Tue Mar 14, 2023 3:47 pm

    GarryB wrote:The SVP-24 is an upgrade for existing types, new generation aircraft already have such things built in to their avionics.
    Hey Garry, seems like the Grom 31 you guys used failed to hit its target by a mile just like your FAB 500. Hit the bricks pal you might end up bombing Moscow.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Tue Mar 14, 2023 4:09 pm

    "Hey Garry, seems like the Grom 31 you guys used failed to hit its target by a mile just like your FAB 500. Hit the bricks pal you might end up bombing Moscow."

    Not to defend GarryB, they do like to BS a ton and frankly so do you in this instance I'd define them as a Russian Fanboy (extreme one) and you a US Fanboy (Maybe not as extreme but still heavily bias to the point you misrepresent facts and lie, similar to GarryB

    Even if the missiles failed, so what? We (US) Have had missiles miss too, it happens. There are many examples of Russian incompetence in this war, so dunno why you choose to brag about something that's more a malfunction or even a test flight gone bad

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    Post  flamming_python Tue Mar 14, 2023 4:15 pm

    Hey Garry, seems like the Grom 31 you guys used failed to hit its target by a mile just like your FAB 500. Hit the bricks pal you might end up bombing Moscow.

    Or Washington D.C.

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