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    Post  ludovicense Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:17 pm

    Battle hardened troops only last 20-30 years at most, as once the men retire the experience goes with em.

    Its a plus in a short span of time sure but not long term,
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    I'm sorry, but I think a considerable amount of time...
    3 decades is a period that will give Russia "tranquility", since its opponents, fearful, will avoid any confrontation as much as possible, fearing being decimated!
    Also remembering that Russia is taking advantage of this conflict to increasingly improve its armed forces.
    Not only in equipment, but also in coordination, logistics and organizational structure. That is, even after 3 decades the RuAF will be much more refined.

    Added to this, we have the legacy of the Wagners... Who will want to face the "musicians" who have already become myths around the world, imposing systematic defeats on all "powerful" NATO?
    By the way, after this conflict is over, can anyone imagine which will be the most requested private armed group in the world?

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    Post  thegopnik Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:38 pm

    @Broski they did not start off with over 2000 tanks atleast go higher in estimates than 2000.

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:58 pm

    Seems that, again, some things started to break through the Anglosaxon narrative Laughing



    Remind me, when I put a multi-billion Chinese investment in 404 in light?

    Laughing Laughing Laughing

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    Post  Hole Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:58 pm

    Ukro total number of tanks is 2500 but they got 3.600 T-72s.  scratch

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    battle-hardened 4th Tank Brigade, which has spent much of the last year fighting in eastern Ukraine’s Donbas region.
    Which means that the unit lost 70 to 80% of its "battle-hardened" fighters. Propably more then once.

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:05 pm

    Post ludovicense Today at 9:17 pm
    I'm sorry, but I think a considerable amount of time...


    Yes, but our Battlefield Rambo has a point.
    You know that I never kill the messenger for the message.

    Sure that this hardness will last for 2-3 decades.

    The question is, what will follow?

    Usually in history, we have a loop.

    Bad times forge strong people.
    Strong people null the bad times.
    Good times bring the weak people.
    Weak people carry the bad times.
    You can jump into a cycle at any stage.

    It is a thing known for a whole known human history. Nothing to be amazed about here.

    The fact that this war will construct a modern Russia elites.
    The fact is, that 1945-1975 was a time of the SU giant quantum jump in all spheres.

    Will they use that, or waste that ... History will tell.

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    Post  Hole Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:11 pm

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    One of the passports of the suspected "pro-ukrainian group" that destroyed the NS-pipelines that was found on the ship.

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    Post  Belisarius Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:12 pm

    Pro Ukr media claim Russian losses in Bakhmut 5 timed higher than Ukrainian ones.

    If you look at the topographical map of the region you will notice that Bakhmut is on the low ground, while the Russian positions to the east, and now also in the north and south, are on the high ground, in addition to that Arestovich admitted at the end of the last year that Russia has a 9 to 1 advantage against Ukraine in terms of artillery in Bakhmut. Pro-Ukrainian media can claim whatever they want, but the reality of war will not allow the side with a disadvantage both in terrain and in firepower to have fewer casualties than the enemy.

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:15 pm

    lol1 lol1

    The point is that they painted 1:20 ratio already for the nafo hobo party Laughing Laughing

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    Post  Belisarius Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:25 pm

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:25 pm

    Was the photo posted by Hole meant to be a joke?

    It's from a movie, even the Cyrillic is completely off.
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    Post  ALAMO Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:27 pm

    @Belisaruis

    This thing is fake if you ask me.

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    Post  franco Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:42 pm

    Ukro total number of tanks is 2500 but they got 3.600 T-72s. scratch


    Woke, woke, woke... pale

    What does reality have to do with anything angry

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:22 pm

    @Walter & @Alamo

    yep its true,  its Ukro agent looks like young Matt Kentovitch Damon to me What a Face What a Face What a Face


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    Post  mnztr Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:32 pm

    Pro Ukr media claim Russian losses in Bakhmut 5 timed higher than Ukrainian ones. wrote:

    they have lost 5x more ammo in Bakhmut then Ukraine. attack

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:02 am

    Could this be true? We know that 6 of the 'deep diggers' were used.

    Retaliation strike: "Daggers" destroyed the "shadow General Staff" of NATO in Ukraine?

    According to unverified reports, American officers who controlled the Armed Forces of Ukraine were killed

    According to rumors that are circulating on the Ukrnet, on March 9, a large delegation of the Ukro-General Staff visited the American embassy in Kyiv. It seems that the transfer of lists of star-striped "200th" took place.

    "Zelensky was forced to admit: "A hard night." The audience noted that the president's coming out looked like a beaten dog, and there were no words about interceptions in his speech."

    In addition, it became known about hits on the Iris-r and Nasams air defense systems, which were worked out on dummy missiles and were destroyed by the Xs flying behind. What is indicative: those Ukrainian Internet resources that reported this were blocked by the independent Mintsifra. As many as 25 publics immediately fell under the distribution, which indirectly indicates hysteria in the Kyiv junta.


    https://svpressa.ru/war21/article/364901/ (translated)

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    Post  GarryB Fri Mar 10, 2023 3:45 am

    Pro Ukr media claim Russian losses in Bakhmut 5 timed higher than Ukrainian ones.

    This is not time for them to stop being delusional. Smile

    The problem for them is how to explain where all the trained men and new equipment and money for the spring push to crimea went... and why are there so many Russians left to stop those that are left... didn't you guys already kill them?

    @Broski they did not start off with over 2000 tanks atleast go higher in estimates than 2000.

    What a ridiculous chart dude...

    It says total number of tanks for Ukraine is 2,596, but it also says Ukraine has 3,666 T-72s plus 710 x T-64s... well they also had T-80s in significant numbers so 3,666 plus 710 plus an unknown number of T-80s means they have 4,376 T-72s and T-64s but they only have 2,596 tanks in total... Duh.

    The figure for Russia is suspect as well... 9,959 T-72s and 2,000 T-64s, so if they have the 12,400 tanks this chart claims that means they have 441 of all the rest of their tanks, to T-80s, T-90s, T-62s... which sounds rather unlikely considering they probably have 2,000 T-80s alone...

    I will shift the Georgia stuff BTW...

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    Post  Sujoy Fri Mar 10, 2023 5:45 am

    Interesting missile package used by Russia. Kaliber and other cruise missiles could have done the job yet KINZHAL was also used.

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    Post  mnztr Fri Mar 10, 2023 6:37 am

    i was thinking part of the reasons the russian are delaying is they don't want to defeat Ukraine before the 35K troops being trained are deployed in Ukraine. The reason for this is if Ukraine is defeated before, they have a ready force of 35K trained paramilitaries that can be sent back to cause trouble. Best to let them return and smash them while they are still forming up for their offensive

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    Post  ucmvulcan Fri Mar 10, 2023 6:51 am

    That is definitely a major part of it. Another big part is that Russia is waging semi positional warfare. Why waste gas and risk lives and equipment and extend logistics sysstems when the Ukronazis will gladly come to you to be slaughtered. I think ultimately there may well be a larger offensive by Russia, but I think that only happens after enough Ukrainian soldiers are dead or maimed. By forcing the Ukromacht to come to them, they bleed Ukraine's most fanatical nazis white and they avoid civilian deaths. Sure the west is calling 9000 Ukrainian dead a genocide, but when you look at what the west did in say Iraq or Syria in a given year that charge rings very hollow. By destroying Ukraine's army and sparing civilians they cause the civilian populace to gradually but inevitably question and oppose the war.

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    Post  Sujoy Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:51 am

    I'll provide some context to my previous tweet as to whether there was a need to use hypersonic KINZHAL when Kaliber and other cruise missiles are already doing a great job.

    NATO's air defence capability seems to be even worse than that of India's. For instance, if you look at this video you will notice that India's SAM systems carried out 2 interceptions -

    1. Very low altitude interception

    2. High altitude interception

    Basically two extreme ends of the possible range of AShM attack profile that might be encountered by a ship.

    1st AShM intercepted during its terminal stage attack run while flying at sea skimming height by LRSAM in lookdown shootdown mode

    LRSAM basically did a cobra maneuver to swoop down on the AShM flying at wavetop level. It seems interception happen within the radar horizon of ship. As a reminder, Detecting low flying & low RCS targets against the sea clutter is very difficult and then converting it to a target kill harder still.

    2nd AShM was intercepted before it could initiate terminal dive maneuver from height, with LRSAM flying to even higher altitudes for a top down head-on cross-over type engagement

    This scenario is applicable for high flying AShMs especially air launched AShMs like the CM 400AKG.

    Granted, there is a difference between a practice exercise and real warfare. But even then, NATO's vaunted air defence systems has failed to a large extent against Russian cruise missiles.




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    Post  Sujoy Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:03 am

    122mm sheels manufactured in Pakistan spotted in Ukrainian Gvozdika.

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:23 am

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    Tsar Ivan IV built Bakhmut as a fort - it was supposed to be a place where foreigners who want to harm Russians could be fought on favorable ground. It is serving that purpose again

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    Post  Hole Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:38 am

    NATO's vaunted air defence systems
    scratch

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