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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:29 pm

    I know that the IRA is practically defunct and that there is not a Scottish independence army (yet).

    Probably however there could be volunteers for both that are fed up with the current state of things and want to end British occupation. Maybe a part of those could be also composed by current British servicemen of Irish or Scottish descent.

    for an example of the first issue the rebels in Syria were practically created by US and turkey.

    For the second issue please take into account that before 1992 Georgian, Ukrainian, Azeri, Kazak, etc armies did not exist. They were all soviet.

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    Post  Odin of Ossetia Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:37 pm




    There are plenty of British origin people where I live.

    I can tell you that there is close to zero probability of the Scottish literally fighting for their independence. You are delusional.

    They fought for their independence, but back in the 18th century, not later.


    The best anti-English armed resistance on the British Isles was the IRA, and even that was not really that impressive. There was also the Welsh Liberation Army or something like that (reportedly they had some links with the IRA), but their armed resistance was marginal.



    As a side note, there was/is (?) an ethnic Breton separatist volunteer who fought in the Army of the New Russia as a sniper.



    And why I am not that impressed with the IRA? Just compare them to these guys:


    http://michalw.narod.ru/index-ZiemiLubelskiej.html

    http://michalw.narod.ru/index-ZiemiKieleckiej.html

    http://michalw.narod.ru/index-SynowieMazowsza.html

    http://michalw.narod.ru/index-GL.html

    http://michalw.narod.ru/index-GL42.html



    Putin hates ethnic Poles too much, and he loves ethnic Ukrainians too much, but he is probably of ethnic Ukrainian origin himself.




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    Post  flamming_python Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:40 pm

    @FP.

    You gotta stop with the Rosgvardia only comment.

    There were obviously elements of the 1st Guards Tank Army as they left T-80BVMs behind, plus some other rather good gear.

    Someone has said on Slavyangrad that Russia has 2, maybe one high res imaging satellite in orbit? Sounds rather dismal - Shoigu even admitted with not quite such words.

    Dunno what the Ukrainians found there

    But considering the Ukrainians found some abandoned Ka-52 after the Russian pullout from around Kiev, I wouldn't be surprised if said left behind T-80BVMs date back to the initial phases of the operation. There has been something awfully dismal about Russian equipment retrieval efforts throughout this operation. Tons of shit left behind at every turn for random Ukrainian villagers to rampage through, up to and including Pantsir-S1s

    Getting back to Kharkov, I don't think there were any serious Russian formations in that region by the time the Ukrainians attacked. If you have sources to the contrary, then by all means.

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    Post  flamming_python Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:47 pm

    And IRA, Scottish Liberation Army - you guys are on Cloud 9

    If you want to piss off London so then arm the Argentinians with some Kalibrs and Tsirkons.
    Only thing is they'll probably sell that stuff to Washington before they make a play for the Falklands again Razz

    Face it, NATO has withdrawn from the last place they were vulnerable in; Afghanistan - before provoking this whole mess.
    Well, there is still Syria, where the US is still encamped in quite shamelessly, and some British and French SF are with them on the down-low.

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:02 pm

    Just take a look at this zoo Rolling Eyes

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    If you are not familiar with it, we have there Czech-made RPG75M, Bulgarian-made Bullspike-AT, and German-made RWG90 ...

    Plus two good old RPG7.
    The funny part is that out of this zoo, the Bulgarian can be the most useful, as it uses PG rounds of RPG7. It is a cloned Soviet RPG22.
    So again, none of those NATO provided systems represents any advantage over the RPG7 Ukrs had in ... won't even trying to gues the number of digits ...
    De facto, all of them are much inferior to the bigger caliber RPG7 ammo.

    The circus show continuous ...

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    Post  mnztr Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:07 pm

    AFIK the RPG 7 will have no problems taking out the flea market tanks the west is sending. Canada has 2A6 but I am pretty confident they dumped the 2A4's after all only the very best for our true friends lol.

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    Post  flamming_python Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:21 pm

    Lots of information about Pakistani arms deliveries to the Ukraine. Zelensky started making demands of India, they weren't too plused about it and started publicizing some sensitive info  Twisted Evil


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    Post  Airbornewolf Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:29 pm

    spend some time on Telegram going trough Sources. Untill.....

    Shocked Wait....By the Emperor!. do my eyes Deceive me!?  Shocked

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    I knew the V insignia's in the Artwork where no coincidence!
    The Prophecy was drawn by artists years ago.

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    Anyway, back to OT.
    apologies if i double-post something.

    battle report of the Kremmenaya frontline


    RF lancet strike on Ukrainian Gvozdika Artillery


    RF armor shelling Ukrainian infantry at Zaporozhye


    RF ATGM attacks on Ukrainian armor in the Kremennaya region

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    Post  dionis Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:49 pm

    @FP why would there be no elements of some serious formations there? What would have supposedly happened to them? It's not like we saw them active elsewhere around that time. 

    How silly is it so assume 3 battalions of Rosgvardia was holding a 100 to 150KM long front line?
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    Post  ALAMO Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:56 pm

    Lots of information about Pakistani arms deliveries to the Ukraine.

    Well, you know, Pak is just doing business as usual.
    If Russia will ask them to supply 122mm ammo they will Laughing
    RUS/PAK relations are quite good actually. No matter who wins the coup there Laughing

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    Post  Big_Gazza Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:34 pm

    flamming_python wrote:Lots of information about Pakistani arms deliveries to the Ukraine. Zelensky started making demands of India, they weren't too plused about it and started publicizing some sensitive info .

    Looks like Zellie doesn't have an exemption from normal diplomat dress codes when begging cap-in-hand to the Indians. The bandera-lite sock puppet and geopolitical nigger has to wear a suit and tie as though he is a real boy instead of a pinnochio-style animated mannikin running a State Dept script. It must be a treat for him! Razz

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    Post  Hole Wed Feb 08, 2023 10:24 pm

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    First pic of the fighter jets the UK will send to 404.

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    Post  flamming_python Wed Feb 08, 2023 10:30 pm

    @FP why would there be no elements of some serious formations there? What would have supposedly happened to them? It's not like we saw them active elsewhere around that time.

    How silly is it so assume 3 battalions of Rosgvardia was holding a 100 to 150KM long front line?

    That's what the info we got said. Vague though it was. That some 1500 Russian forces were overwhelmed by 7k, 8k or so Ukrainian forces. Maybe there were a few tanks, but I don't think we're even talking about a full battalion here.

    If there were more Russian forces there and they had armour support, and presumably helicopter gunship support and artillery and so on - then they would have managed to resist the advance, at least for enough time for Russian to send reinforcements there. That's self-evident. And certainly this Ukrainian tactic of using HMMWVs, pickup trucks, and small-unit advances to penetrate through wouldn't have worked.

    The other thing is, and this is confirmed by various sources - is that the Russian defense in the Kharkov region was based on a system of checkpoints along various roads.
    Not on defensive lines of deployed formations, along with entrenchments, dug-ins, and so on, as one might expect on a front-line. This again indicates that the Russians had only light units there such as the Rosgvardia, who deployed only as they were trained; not some armour-tank, motor-rifles and so on.

    As to why this would be - well it could be as it was supposed, that Russian forces were in the process of withdrawing from there. I'm not sure it makes sense either, the article after all goes into the importance of holding the region and Izyum for the process of encircling the Ukrainian forces in the Donbass.
    But as outside observers we can only judge based on the facts we see plain as day. All conjecture and speculation on the objectives of the Russian military at that stage, or the apparent importance of this or that area to them - is just that.
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    Post  Backman Wed Feb 08, 2023 11:02 pm

    According to History Legends, Russia has 60,000 forces in one sector alone. (12 minutes in) He also says that Lepard tanks will be on the front by the end of the month. And I agree with that. This decision was made months ago. Maybe this is why the Russian security council is meeting at night

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    Post  Backman Wed Feb 08, 2023 11:30 pm

    Shit is really getting serious again. The Anglo satanists really thought they'd hold Bakhmut.


    They are going to send jets. With Nato pilots. They wont bother training Ukranians I dont think

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    Post  famschopman Wed Feb 08, 2023 11:40 pm

    They will be testing how far Russia is willing to go. In this case it's actually difficult one as western planes over Ukraine don't necessarily make it an immediate target unless actively involved into offensive actions. It makes more sense to engage with Ukraine jets as they are the ones you are fighting with (officially that is)

    In many cases there has been a lack of response by Russian leadership as it was most likely part of the Gerasimov doctrine and this probably empowered disrupting actors in taking the next step. But in this case the Russian leadership have to be willing to escalate against any aircraft in Ukraine territory.
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    Post  VARGR198 Wed Feb 08, 2023 11:42 pm

    I'm not going to share it, but there was new footage on twitter today of Ukrainans executing Russian pows.
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    Post  Airbornewolf Wed Feb 08, 2023 11:53 pm

    I'm not going to share it, but there was new footage on twitter today of Ukrainans executing Russian pows.

    With all due respect to the men that where executed.

    The message should have been clear by now what can happen to you if you surrender to these Nazi Pigs.
    The Ukrainians will just get more brutal and homicidal as the war momentum will turn against them more and more.

    That said, let the RF intelligence identify the Ukrainian unit and send in the TOS-1A to liquify the fuckers from the inside out.
    Rules of Engagement and Being an professional no longer applies to such enemy units.

    you wipe them out. preferably no survivors.

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    Post  kvs Thu Feb 09, 2023 12:38 am

    If NATzO thinks it will be flying its jets with its own pilots into Ukraine and that Russia will not shoot them down, then they will be in
    for a nasty surprise. They can't hide behind Article 5 over Ukr territory. The UN hasn't authorized a military intervention by NATzO
    to save its quislings in Kiev. These retards still think that Russia is just another Iraq and that their wunderwaffen jets will be immune
    to Russian SAM systems.


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    Post  Backman Thu Feb 09, 2023 1:10 am


    The message should have been clear by now what can happen to you if you surrender to these Nazi Pigs.

    This is why the Nazis were the minority targeted for funding by the Anglo satanists. The same reason why isis was created and funded in Syria. And who was funded in Chechnya.

    Yes. These bastards are evil. But if not for the funding, they would be irrelevant.

    The fault for these actions lies with the Anglo satanists.

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    Post  Backman Thu Feb 09, 2023 1:55 am

    If NATzO thinks it will be flying its jets with its own pilots into Ukraine and that Russia will not shoot them down, then they will be in
    for a nasty surprise. They can't hide behind Article 5 over Ukr territory. The UN hasn't authorized a military intervention by NATzO
    to save its quislings in Kiev. These retards still think that Russia is just another Iraq and that their wunderwaffen jets will be immune
    to Russian SAM systems.

    They'd know Russia will shoot at them anywhere in Ukraine air space. The fronts right now are too far for jets to be of much use. But they'd make operations around Odessa more difficult.

    It is just an unacceptable escalation regardless if they are even useless

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    Post  mnztr Thu Feb 09, 2023 2:35 am

    Pakistan is such a messed up country Russia can cause all kinds of chaos there with the supply of arms to the Pakistan taliban.
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    Post  mnztr Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:33 am

    With the revelation that the USA conspired with Norway, Denmark and Sweden to blow up NS pipeline, what now. Russia is confronted with 3 Scandinavian chihuahua's that think they can poke the bear and hide behind the eagle!! Surely this cannot be allowed to stand? Will Russia offer them the opportunity to repair Nordstream at their cost and pay a financial settlement? Or will they just start blowing up Norway's very vulnerable oil infrastructure. There are some interesting details to ponder - . 1 of the 4 charges seems to not have gone off, ergo HARD EVIDENCE is sitting on the ocean floor. Also Russia likely had radar data of the Baltic sea airspace that can indicated when the Norwegian plane dropped the trigger. Its clear now why the Norwegian govt prevented Equinor from rendering assistance. Russia has causes belli with these 3 countries that is for sure.

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    Post  sepheronx Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:41 am

    No, nato isn't flying jets in. They have lost so much that flying jets in while their proxy is getting its shit pushed in isn't an ideal tactic, even by amateur armchair general standards.

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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Feb 09, 2023 4:19 am

    Backman wrote:...They are going to send jets. With Nato pilots. They wont bother training Ukranians I dont think

    How is this a bad thing?



    Backman wrote:This is why the Nazis were the minority targeted for funding by the Anglo satanists. The same reason why isis was created and funded in Syria. And who was funded in Chechnya.

    Yes. These bastards are evil. But if not for the funding, they would be irrelevant.

    The fault for these actions lies with the Anglo satanists.

    Fault lies with Ukrainian population which supports them




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