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    Post  ALAMO Mon Dec 05, 2022 1:16 pm

    Whole of 404 is in red again.
    Interesting detail, that the tactics is exactly the same as always - missiles are flying separately.
    Nobody is trying to make it a swarm attacks.
    I suppose it speaks for the air defense Ukrs can operate more than anything else.

    https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/35446

    Some Buk operating in the Kremenchug area, but seems like it missed or the interception perimeter is rather far away.

    And about the Ukrainian attacks, I suppose those can nor be totally prevented. The connection between Russia and Ukraine is far too close for that. Everyone can be a sleeper. There is no language barrier, there was no borders for a long time. Russkie are liquidating the terrorist cells one by one, but as long as those are supported at the state level, sometimes they will achieve a success. Irrelevant from any perspective other that propaganda.


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    Post  Isos Mon Dec 05, 2022 1:18 pm

    Radars and S-300 launchers lanceted.

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    Post  Hole Mon Dec 05, 2022 1:22 pm

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    Current hit list:
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    Post  Hole Mon Dec 05, 2022 1:44 pm

    Turns out the "attack" on the airfield in Ryazan was in fact a burning truck way outside the airfield.  Rolling Eyes

    The incident in Engels? Most likely some mishap by the armorers. Some 60 or 80 cruise missiles have to be brought to the planes and loaded into them.
    Planes have to be filled with fuel. The level of activity is much higher then in peacetime so expect accidents and errors to be made, even by the most
    professional people.

    If you search for an sabotage or terror act behind anything you will find one.
    A car broke down on some road in Moscow... Must be those damn Ukros!  angry

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    Post  Hole Mon Dec 05, 2022 1:48 pm

    So far 6 explosions in Kiev, 5 in Nikolaev and 6 in Odessa. 

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    Krivoi Rog was attacked last night, some metal plant was hit by at least 3 missiles
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    Kharkov is also visited by missiles.

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    Post  Stealthflanker Mon Dec 05, 2022 1:56 pm

    Guess Ukrainians think by hitting Engels, Russians will scramble like a headless chicken and cancelled the strike. Laughing

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:01 pm

    Ukrs reporting "more than 100" missiles en route.

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    Post  Erk Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:13 pm

    ALAMO wrote:

    Ukrs reporting "more than 100" missiles en route.

    Missile Monday, right on schedule.

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:18 pm

    Hole wrote:
    Turns out the "attack" on the airfield in Ryazan was in fact a burning truck way outside the airfield.  Rolling Eyes

    Well, that one seemed like any other minor incident, that happen 24/7 everywhere anyway. I didn't even mention it.


    The incident in Engels? Most likely some mishap by the armorers. Some 60 or 80 cruise missiles have to be brought to the planes and loaded into them.
    Planes have to be filled with fuel. The level of activity is much higher then in peacetime so expect accidents and errors to be made, even by the most
    professional people.

    And of course, this could be the case too. Again, did anyone provide any indication of Ukrainian involvement yet? Let alone long-range drones (600km+)?

    In terms of likelihood, a local mishap would be #1. And #2 would be sabotage done locally, as I described earlier. Only #3 would be something that flew in from afar, and I hadn't seen any evidence of that so... Is there any?


    If you search for an sabotage or terror act behind anything you will find one.
    A car broke down on some road in Moscow... Must be those damn Ukros!  angry

    And yes, this ties in with the insta-ukro crap we've seen before. Like, some random fire somewhere in a factory. Everyone was like "Gotta be Ukrainians! Nuke Kiev now!", and why was that? Because pro-UA channels started spreading disinfo.

    In reality it was just a minor loading incident, far away from the actual factory, blablabla. I wrote a lengthy post about this back then. Statistics just have it that fires and stuff do break out here and there all the time in a large country. Even in a given smallish town anywhere in Europe you have at least one a year. Multiply that by thousands and you will have one every day, in a country as large as Russia a major one at least once a week. Go figure.

    Need hard evidence to suggest foul play.

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    Post  Stealthflanker Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:37 pm

    Regarding the bombers tho. Since they are strategic bomber, they counts into START treaty or New START one. Any incident or their status should be reported as per treaty requirement.

    https://twitter.com/KomissarWhipla/status/1599690471554830336

    Ukrainian psy-ops or channels may spread whatever they want but real treaty take precedence over them.

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:03 pm

    There are some materials revealed today with Lancet strikes.
    We can clearly see two main weak points of the system obviously reveled with the time and multiplicity of targets.
    The first one is it's small striking power, being a side effect of the whole concept. As a thing designed to minimalize collateral damage in asymmetrical conflicts, and widely used against a military-grade targets - this won't surprise anyone.
    But the second one is much more serious, and I suppose was revealed only now, when the climate conditions changed. Some of the footage presents the drones missing the targets or changing the trajectory while the operator struggles to keep it on target.
    The blame is a combo of the light weight of the system, and huge wing/control surfaces made to keep it very maneuverable. When applied in the windy climate we have now in the area - multiple records suggest heavy rains with wind - it proves non-resistant to the wind blows making it deviate from course.

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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:40 pm

    diabetus wrote:"They keep coming so the Russians can just keep shooting them as they are..."

    Garry, Vietnam proved that that's a terrible way to wage war.

    It was excellent way to wage a war, problem was in USA strategy of using troops on the ground instead of mass carpet bombing

    Also Vietnam had colossal birth rate, Ukraine is going extinct



    PhSt wrote:I saw a TG post about a comment from one of the DPR fighters on the Donbass front, they describe the situation as if Ukro Nazi soldiers are being cloned because new NAZI cannon fodders keep pouring on the front...

    Outstanding

    The more they send them more you can kill them

    Investment in the future



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    Post  JohninMK Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:00 pm

    @Rybar on "Virtual" Battalions on the Side of the AFU⚡

    Vladlen Tatarsky wonders where all the volunteer nationalist battalions formed by natives of the North #Caucasus and #Crimea are fighting. Indeed, is there any confirmation of their actual participation in combat operations in Ukraine at all?

    🔻 Which formations are we talking about?

    ▪ "Sheikh Mansur" Battalion:

    Chechens from this battalion have been fighting in Ukraine for many years and took part in the genocide of the #Donbass population in 2014-2016.

    It is they, together with the "Dzhokhar Dudayev Battalion", that constitute the "North Caucasian backbone" actively supported in the Western press to foment separatism in the Russian regions in the Caucasus.

    Their activities were noted in the #Kherson direction in November after the withdrawal of Russian troops to the left bank of the #Dnipro river.

    At the same time, they did not actually take part in the battles, but played the role of the most common units of the thero-defence already after the withdrawal of the RF Armed Forces, taking up positions in the second echelon.

    ▪ "Muslim Corps - Caucasus":

    The volunteer corps as part of the "International Legion of Defence of Ukraine" was formed in May this year.

    According to an official statement, it was created "at the request of Muslims living in Ukraine for the freedom of the Caucasian peoples from the oppression of the Russian authorities".

    The main contingent consists of natives of the Caucasus, as well as some representatives of Turkic peoples - including Crimean Tatars and Azerbaijanis who took part in the fighting in #Donbass in 2014-2016.

    The corps has a Telegram channel that periodically publishes photos from the alleged training of recruits, but their credibility is highly questionable, given that there is still no real evidence of their involvement in the conflict.

    ▪ "Crimea" Battalion:

    The unit was established in 2014 and mainly consists of Crimean Tatars who fled the peninsula. However, since its formation, there has been no information on the battalion's actual involvement in combat.

    In February this year, Nariman Bilyalov (pseudonym Isa Akayev), the founder of the volunteer battalion, announced the reactivation of the battalion, which also included natives of the North Caucasus region.

    Since its re-establishment the media have been reporting on the successes of the nationalist formation with some frequency. At the same time, the members of the "Crimea" Battalion" themselves complain about the low level of support from the Ukrainian authorities.

    Apart from various interviews and publications on Telegram, there is also no real confirmation of the participation of the Crimean Tatar unit in battles. Back in April, we explained in detail that radical Islamists are nothing more than a tool of Ukrainian propaganda. Moreover, they are actively used to promote separatist ideas in the Russian Federation.

    🩸 Despite the militant statements of the representatives of these battalions, most of them fight virtually. Their main purpose is informational influence on representatives of the Turkic and Caucasian peoples of #Russia.

    And the prefix "battalion" does not reflect the real reality. In some cases the number of volunteer formations does not exceed a hundred men.

    The "Sheikh Mansur" Battalion seems to be taking part in battles, but in the second echelon. Their main task is to broadcast a pretty picture of the "struggle against Russian power" to the population of the Caucasus.


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    Post  Hole Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:26 pm

    Erk wrote:Missile Monday, right on schedule.
    Otherwise it would be called Missile Wednesday.  Laughing Laughing

    When applied in the windy climate we have now in the area - multiple records suggest heavy rains with wind - it proves non-resistant to the wind blows making it deviate from course.
    Some changes to the electronics could solve this. Still it hits in 90 of 100 cases. Even some of the close misses resulted in damage to the target.


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    Western plans hitting reality again.  Very Happy

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    Post  Hole Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:35 pm

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    Ukro AD is getting worse, last time the managed to damage a tractor, this time only a moldovan tree was hurt

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    Post  lancelot Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:39 pm

    That is ESPO oil. The price basically did not budge since the war started. That is precisely why the Western sanctions are going to fail. Russia exports like 4 Mbbl/day of oil typically. Of that like half goes to Europe, the other half to Asia. Like half is ESPO oil going to Asia, and the other half is Urals oil going to Europe. Sales of ESPO have not been affected at all. If any Asian countries stopped buying ESPO oil, China just soaked up all the oil they left on the table. Price of Urals went down severely, but eventually Russia will come up with some other way of transporting the oil, and probably redirect flows to Asia as well.

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    Post  Hole Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:01 pm

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    Maybe the Baltic Fleet will see some action in the future.

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    Post  Hole Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:02 pm

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    Russia is ready to send electricians
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    No electricity, no easy pay.  Very Happy

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    Post  Isos Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:31 pm

    Strong winds affects planes. Of course it will affact drones too.

    But those Lancet are manned to the impact by the operator. There is a the option too just let the software take control of the flight after the operator lock on the targets.

    It is much more precise when in this mode. The lancet seems to be complicated to control manually by the operators.

    But even then its frag touched all the targets. They still hit very, very close to the aim points.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:40 pm

      Isos Today at 5:31 pm
    Strong winds affects planes. Of course it will affact drones too.



    Asterix is ​​right..
    The Lancet-1 allegedly has a take-off mass of up to 5 kg, while the maximum permissible take-off mass of the Lancet-3 is up to 12 kg.

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    Post  Werewolf Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:46 pm

    I think they should equip Lancet drones with a small secondary incendiary warhead to at least give some probability that targets catch fire.
    We don't know about the damage, but with incendiary filler the S-300 wouldn't be so lucky.

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    Post  kvs Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:47 pm

    That is ESPO oil. The price basically did not budge since the war started. That is precisely why the Western sanctions are going to fail. Russia exports like 4 Mbbl/day of oil typically. Of that like half goes to Europe, the other half to Asia. Like half is ESPO oil going to Asia, and the other half is Urals oil going to Europe. Sales of ESPO have not been affected at all. If any Asian countries stopped buying ESPO oil, China just soaked up all the oil they left on the table. Price of Urals went down severely, but eventually Russia will come up with some other way of transporting the oil, and probably redirect flows to Asia as well.

    The Brent price drop proves that the "market" is rigged. Russia needs to play hardball and deliberately divert its exports away from the NATzO fraud
    exchanges. The demand is not created by NATzO fraudsters.



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