Russian population and demographics #2

A reply to Rodion_Romanovic in another thread where it is OT.

Russia should only adopt incentives for families with stipulations for 3 children (2 is marginal) or more. There should be no programs where money
is handed over without children resulting from it. It has been demonstrated that incentive programs do not generate more births and are
a waste of time. Raising up the financial level of females is causally inversely correlated with the birth rate. The stupid phrase "barefoot
and pregnant" is an attempt to smear any recognition of the nature of females. In modern society they only get baby rabies when their
eggs have dried up by their mid-thirties and later. They spend the most fertile period of their lives (late teens and twenties) screwing around
and trying to get "high value" males who pump and dump them. They have no commitment to family until they start hitting the wall when
it is too late. Demographics crashes on the rocks of this idiocy.

But at least the west has not made you cynical.

It is a bit ironic that in the 1950s most families were single income families because bringing up children was a full time job.

Skip to today and the only single income families are solo parents...

Inflation

By the way. I have a colleague with a good job here in Germany who is leaving the company and the country to go back to Russia.

And that is the amusing thing... I think it was RTN that said Russia was losing its best and its brightest, but there are jobs in Russia and the infrastructure is being built new and there is low unemployment and conservative social views.

The west became powerful and rich partly because it could sample the bestest and the brightest from the entire world... teach them English or the local language and bring them to a country with money and infrastructure many other countries have never had.

In the 70s and 80s all the documentaries on western TV were about the rest of the world... some of them still are but fewer people are interested in watching them...

Most westerners get a shock going to Russia or China or many other countries.... even apparently poor countries because even relatively poor countries have cities that don't look like the slums you see on TV depicting the third world... not that the west has ever done anything to help in that regard.

The point is that the west does not have the education system to create smart people, they are more interested in making sure they don't get your gender pronouns wrong or they might get fired.

Russia and China can contribute to that because the west had the advanced education for people from around the world so you went to tertiary education in the west and you met the children of the rich and powerful, who because of the nature of the west will also mostly be rich and powerful when they grow up unless they make some seriously bad life choices, but even then if your dad is president you can do as you please.

The point is that the best and the brightest eventually go home and spread the western way of doing things and promote western values and ethics etc etc.

Russia and China and indeed India could turn their education systems into service industries to train and educate the world, because that gives a lot of soft power to you.

And those people thinking skin colour makes you dumb, culture and the environment you grow up in has more to do with achievement than genetics.

Two smart people having a baby there is no certainty that the child will be smart no matter how clever their parents are at manipulating and teaching them are.

Equally two people who never went to high school let alone finished might give birth to a genius... but because the child as born in a tiny village in a poor country they might spend their time solving problems in the village like improving the water or other access, instead of curing cancer or ending poverty.

I was going to say end child poverty because the cynical west are bastards aren't they?

If you have a charity working to end poverty in your own country most people wont donate because they think poor people in their own country... the adults... are lazy or stupid or both. They will only donate if you say it is for children but obviously children can't control their financial situation, so giving them a nice house and a good job really isn't practical.

The real problem with the west is that our governments listen to the rich and powerful and when there is a problem with the economy they throw billions of dollars in subsidies to the rich and powerful, like the banks and the big businesses in the hope they will pass the money on to the customers and workers respectively... but they never do... they pocket it and give themselves big bonuses.

What the government should do is give $10,000 to everyone on the unemployment benefit... they wont save it.... they will spend it... they will pay bills and get their cars fixed or their fridges or ovens fixed.... some might even go on holiday, but the vast majority will spend money which would boost the economy vastly more than any payout to banks et al.

I saw a video that explained perfectly why the west and most other countries are broken... the guy states where ever you go in the world, get into a taxi and ask the driver to take you to where the working people live and they will almost always take you to a slum... ask yourself why it is the workers who live in some of the poorest areas of a country... they can't live too far from work but they can't afford mansions or to live in nice places.... urban slums.... for the people who do the work.

There is something to be said for a company town where a company will build cheap but safe modern housing for its workers and put its workers through education and look after their health needs... western companies don't do that and that is why they were so efficient... because they are heartless bastards.

That is what changed from the 1950s America to now... the companies made profits but they invested the profits in decent wages for their workers and not just management and shareholders.

Shareholders get too much money considering they don't contribute anything to the company other than an initial cash injection. Something they end up getting a continuous return on year after year after year... but they don't keep contributing more and more money, just one purchase of shares and they they keep extracting wealth from the company they otherwise do nothing to help. Like a bank loan... except bank loans get paid off so once it is paid off you don't have to keep paying them a percentage of the profits.

Russia reestablished a medal of Mat Geroinya - Hero Mother.
It was presented in Soviet times to mothers who gave birth to 10 or more children.



A presidential decree of 2022 granted its return, and some has been already provided. Nov 26th is a ritual date of promotion, as it is a Mothers Day in Russia.
A medal is assisted by a 1 000 000 rubles financial grant (EUR10+k).

Is there some reward for a man who "creates" 10+ children?

Asking in the interest of your friend?

There are tons of them already, however nobody sane mates with them.
It is a boobtrap, you know
The case of Ukro females looking for a male partner to sort their shit out was serious enough to make some of the local catholic church big fishes to make a stand.
They were seriously afraid that they will be ... ekhm ... active ... with all the privileges they have ... ekhm ... to do ... khm khm ... the things local male population will hmmm hmmm ... applaud.
Is it offensive enough?

Actually perhaps talking about conscription for women was a ploy to boost the fertility of Ukrainian women... won't help now but in about 18 years you will have plenty of meat for the meat grinder...

As we have seen already, pregnancy is not a cause of not sending females into the battle.
Most of the materials provided cover the work of medical personnel, and I wouldn't make much noise about that.
Russian medical teams are women heavy either, and I am quite sure that some of them died in combat operations.
We had a widely known episode in Syria, when a field hospital was targeted and some female personnel died.
There was a case of high decoration of some field nurse early in the war.
So that is not as much a point as the fact, that Ukro propaganda is really actively pushing a narrative of female frontline soldiering. They are trying to address patriotism and flexibility of women in general, but in a wider view it is disgusting. A clear goal is to push females into the meatgrinder, and sadly the female part of Ukro population is structured much more equally rather than male. They haven't fled the country after 240222. Before that, female draining was affecting older population mostly, with young girls staying at home.
It means that they have a waste reservoir of young, 18+ population to bleed white.  
Disgusting.

And so easy to round up... just follow the house music to the nightclubs and there they are....

flexibility of women

The problem is that they seem more interested in throwing bodies into the line than to getting the damaged bodies out of the line and back to treatment so women might be told they are going to be nurses or radio operators or other such things but they get a rifle and end up in a trench on the front line anyway.

The people making big money out of this war wont care... they didn't care about their sons, why care about their daughters, but most people wont be making money out of this for much longer on both sides of the fence.

If you have a field full of worn out EV cars you are running out of time to get a contract with your government to supply some MRAPs that are next generation... they are electric... sell them at $300K per vehicle... but they do need new batteries is in the small print on page 402 of the contract...