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    Post  ALAMO Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:54 am

    A war in twitter zoo among the creatures - what is here not to love?
    Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

    sepheronx wrote:
    With a loss like that, gives some possible indication that there are a huge supply of mercenaries from West to Ukraine. Way more than they are admitting.
    Losses like that in an entire month would give massive rise to panic and revolt in majority of the countries in the world. Since it didn't happen in Ukraine, gives me my theory

    In some materials revealed lately, the Polish accent in broken Ponglish is obvious to me. I suppose that must stand corrected for the numbers given by the Russkie.
    And by the way, I find that number very humble. The same was given by the most moronic&hardbrained ukrozombies already at the end of Sep, which brings the conclusion that those were already much higher than that. And the slaughter continued for a week more.


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    Post  TMA1 Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:58 am

    Wikipedia is a very valuable source if you know how to use it. GO TO THE TALK SECTION. There you will find a plethora of all you might want to know that is not allowed on the front page. Also speaking of Crimea. You might want to ask why that all happened in the first place. Maybe look up the maidan color revolution and ensuing regime change. If say China regime changed Cuba, signed defense pacts and funded them and gave them equipment and got Cuba to talk about retaking Guantanamo bay, what would we Americans do?

    Same as Russia. I'm tired of this farce. Time for Russia to show the world what it is made of. It is time to use full force, even putting troops in grave danger. Decapitate quickly and with no remorse. In the mean time tell the west if it interferes, then nuclear weapons WILL be used as nato involvement to stop the attack would be recognition of the west trying to destroy Russia proper.

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    Post  GarryB Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:44 am

    Yeah, I was going to say, isn't the Times just western financed and controled puppy training papers?

    It is useful to read to get an indication of the reality they want to project because I am sure most volunteers for the Nazis have a shortage of everything and the thousands of dollars they are throwing at them wont last long when they pay for their equipment and perhaps even food and lodgings.

    Maybe even charge them if they want anti armour weapons... and ammo.

    Several sources in the US have telegraphed the US response to a use of tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine: an immediate sinking of the entire Black Sea fleet and destruction of all port facilities and the "destruction", presumable using NATO airpower, of all Russian forces in Ukraine. One would guess such a response would cause a nuclear counterstrike against NATO airfields in Poland and Romania and attacks on NATO surface naval assets.

    Their main problem would be that it would be easier for Russia to devastate HATO forces in the region than for HATO to activate their forces to enact such strikes.

    They claim to not be party to this conflict... maybe one of their bio weapons labs has something they want to start a provocation with... a nuke would be about the only useful weapon for such a situation... otherwise it would make no sense at all... but thanks for the warning guys if they do need to use a nuke then if the response from HATO is going to be that excessive then they might as well nuke Brussels and Washington to start with.

    More then that... "After us, silence"

    Ironically for Freezing Europe...

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #27 - Page 19 Freede12

    Muskrat misunderstands many things. Or rather he point blank refuses to even LOOK at them. Here's some.

    The main thing he misunderstands is that Putin is not scared and is not looking for an easy way to walk away from this conflict.

    Russia has clearly defined goals that don't include getting approval from the west, and they are going to continue to achieve them.

    No matter how much the US sabotages or tries to interfere with Russian relations with Europe... because they are essentially over anyway.

    Actually it's not a bad proposal if there is an assurance that the Ukraine won't be armed up again and really does remain neutral

    Not the worst proposal I have seen, but abusing the old saying.... in war when your enemy is making a mistake don't interrupt him.... perverted, when you have the enemy on the slaughter table and you are removing his limbs... don't let him distract you with a peace proposal because he is just distracting you while his mate sneak up behind you... finish the job...


    Indeed, yet it proves of how much the real opinion of an educated Westerner, who knows who beats the drums, differs from the pushed propaganda agenda.

    It is an indication of how black people in America feel, or Palestinians in Israel feel... normally when there is a problem you call the police but when the police are more likely to shoot you than the actual criminal what can you do... how do they feel?

    Russia should have gone in years ago. Firstly the job would have been easier.

    Kievs forces would have been weaker, but Russia would also have been less able to cope with the sanctions too... food sanctions were painful for Russia but allowed them 8 years to develop their own food production industry for instance... equally lots of engines had French parts or were French engines... not so much now as new Russian engines move towards production and use.

    Sure you will kill some slavs, but you wont be able to weaken Russia remotely enough for it to matter.

    Its just western desperation at this point.

    Do enough damage to make them really hate the west... as with most western moves... ultimately self defeating.


    PLus its clear Russia wasn't focused on the Pukraine from 1991 onwards politically. And now that has caused major problems today.

    There are lots of obvious changes they could have made but didn't until they were forced to... getting off the US dollar is obvious but they really didn't get rid of their US debt till the US started using their dollar as a weapon... ie they were investing... banking on the US economy till the US started punishing them for it...

    Stupid on both sides.

    Suggesting its just Donbass is frankly obscene. What sort of fucked up mental state are many in the Pukraine after all those years of secret police, banned pro Russian media, nazi vermin asssassinating and jailing people.

    Argentine people should be celebrating and demanding their land back because it seems in the west referendums and the views of the people who live there mean nothing...

    China would also like that because of Tibet and Taiwan...

    If there's 700,000 full time paid soldiers , why the f*ck does anyone need to be called up.

    There are 25 million reservists who have served within the last 10-15 years, why draw forces that are currently operating around your country for a special little job when you have reservists for just that purpose?

    UKR Ambassador to Germany

    Hahaha... the Ukrainians who can afford them would not be seen dead without a Tesla... the people in the Ukraine may never see one.

    2) How fast is Kiev replacing the soldiers that it is losing?

    A better question is if Russia is sending the bare minimum troops for the job and so when the Orcs mass attack they do take ground but lose large numbers in the process... what is going to happen when the Russians change gear and send more troops... Orcs lose more men and also territory... how is that going to end for them?

    Gotta laugh at the Ameri-fags threatening to destroy the Black Sea Fleet and all the Ru forces in the Pukraine.

    To be fair some thinking and demanding the Russians send in millions of troops and all of a sudden the enemy forces will all be instantly wiped out is just as bad.

    REPORT: UKRAINIAN ARMY ABSORBED 20,000 CASUALTIES DURING SEPTEMBER OFFENSIVE

    Suffered rather than absorbed, but I doubt there was much suffering in HATO HQs across EU and US...

    Haters will say it's fake

    Would be hilarious if Musk decided to make that his new symbol... these orc faggots don't know how to treat potentially powerful influential people...

    Ukria is a pathological case. It is an Orwellian toilet where the losses are not known by the credulous Ukr proles.
    Instead they are fed a diet BS about big victories against moskals who are losing so many men that they have to
    call up 300,000 reservists ("draftees").

    They will get ten times that many sign up because of the 50K that signed up before only 50 were killed and the rest didn't come back because they were upset by all the Russians they had to kill so they sent 20K on extended holiday to Fiji or Samoa to deal with things...

    If my country were stupid enough to sink Russia's Black Sea Fleet

    Love the ego of the guy thinking sinking the entire Russian BSF would even be something they could manage...

    Yeah. It looks to me like the Russian military is too small. I assumed they would have a professional military that could deploy 200 to 300,000 ground forces for any given war. Without calling anyone up.

    I also assumed that a 1 million person army would comprise no less than 3-400,000 ground forces. But it looks like not

    They are already fighting in Syria and have forces in other places too.... do you think a 1 million man army just has men around the place twiddling their thumbs doing nothing?

    They have millions of square kms of Russian territory to defend 24/7... they have reservists for this sort of thing but they normally take 3 months or more to call up and prepare.

    In Desert Storm the US waited 6 months while armour and troops and equipment were delivered...

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:46 am

    TMA1 wrote:Wikipedia is a very valuable source if you know how to use it. GO TO THE TALK SECTION. There you will find a plethora of all you might want to know that is not allowed on the front page. Also speaking of Crimea. You might want to ask why that all happened in the first place. Maybe look up the maidan color revolution and ensuing regime change. If say China regime changed Cuba, signed defense pacts and funded them and gave them equipment and got Cuba to talk about retaking Guantanamo bay,  what would we Americans do?
    Same as Russia. I'm tired of this farce. Time for Russia to show the world what it is made of. It is time to use full force, even putting troops in grave danger. Decapitate quickly and with no remorse. In the mean time tell the west if it interferes, then nuclear weapons WILL be used as nato involvement to stop the attack would be recognition of the west trying to destroy Russia proper.

    The very first mistake people follow because of lack of historical background to the subject.
    Crimea - even placed within the administrative borders of the Ukrainian SRR, was still a subject of the Soviet constitution.
    It was an autonomy inside the UkrSRR. They have their own governmental structures, like a lot of other subjects of the Soviet Union.
    They voted for an independence referendum already in 1991, while the Soviet Union still existed, and the Ukrainian SRR structures were operating - including the Highest Soviet.
    The vote was devastating in favor of independence, and that decision was accepted by the High Soviet of UkrSRR BEFORE Ukraine itself claimed independence in 1992!!
    Dissolution of the SU already faced the independent Crimean Republic, the same way that tons of other republics gained it's independence back there.
    It's status was disputed well into 90s, when finally in 1995 (or 1994, just after he became president, I can't remember this detail now) Kuchma sent the security forces and drown their independence in blood. Kidnapped some, "disappearing" some, killing some - while the drunkard Yelcyn was too busy drinking with his dear colleague Leonid, plus already had shit in the fan in Chechenya.
    So it was Ukraine that invaded the independent Crimean Republic, stripping it off their formally granted by the highest Soviet status.
    As people know shit about history mostly, and are brainwashed enough not only to contest the sole fact that the Soviet Union held referendums as a part of it's political decision making process, but the result of those - we have what we have.

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    Post  flamming_python Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:47 am

    AlfaT8 wrote:Fully agree, Russia should have gone full Zukov the last time they visited Kiev.

    That said, i have no clue what the West's plan is anymore?
    Their sanctions blitzkrieg failed spectacularly.
    So even if they do wreil Russia up to commit harder action, what the F is the point?

    Sure you will kill some slavs, but you wont be able to weaken Russia remotely enough for it to matter.

    Its just western desperation at this point.

    Have as many Ukrainians die as possible and make sure they hate Russia for all time.
    Make sure there is no-one left in the Ukraine for any sort of economic work in any territories Russia takes.
    And of course kill as many Russians as possible and make the army there as crappy a career path as possible.

    Actually there is plenty for the West to do in the Ukraine if thinking cynically. And Washington, its policy makers certainly do think cynically, so should you when assessing them

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    Post  Podlodka77 Tue Oct 04, 2022 8:05 am

    Firebird wrote:Gotta laugh at the Ameri-fags threatening to destroy the Black Sea Fleet and all the Ru forces in the Pukraine.

    I hope Putin tells the scum what the response would be ie a massive levelling of American military and infrastructures worldwide.
    It really shows how America literally is Satan on Earth and was planning the destruction of Russia since 1991.


    I think that the West has a sincere desire to destroy Russia since the time of Napoleon, through the Crimean War, until the collapse of the Russian Empire and thus the destruction of the identity of the Russian people. Recent examples are World War II and what is happening now.
    I think that Ivan IV Vasilyevich started to create a huge state with the victory over the Kazan and Astrakhan khanates. Of course, in the West it is called a terrible..
    The temple of Vasily the Blessed was built in honor of that victory.


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    Post  Erk Tue Oct 04, 2022 8:10 am

    Podlodka77 wrote:
    Firebird wrote:Gotta laugh at the Ameri-fags threatening to destroy the Black Sea Fleet and all the Ru forces in the Pukraine.

    I hope Putin tells the scum what the response would be ie a massive levelling of American military and infrastructures worldwide.
    It really shows how America literally is Satan on Earth and was planning the destruction of Russia since 1991.


    I think that the West has a sincere desire to destroy Russia since the time of Napoleon, through the Crimean War, until the collapse of the Russian Empire and thus the destruction of the identity of the Russian people. Recent examples are World War II and what is happening now.


    It's not only Russia, the West (meaning the ruling elite) want to drag down all other countries including their allies, and to some extent their own citizens (the deplorables) by creating conflicts between each other. As long as Russia is dragging down Ukraine and the EU mission accomplished.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Tue Oct 04, 2022 8:22 am

    Erk wrote:
    Podlodka77 wrote:
    Firebird wrote:Gotta laugh at the Ameri-fags threatening to destroy the Black Sea Fleet and all the Ru forces in the Pukraine.

    I hope Putin tells the scum what the response would be ie a massive levelling of American military and infrastructures worldwide.
    It really shows how America literally is Satan on Earth and was planning the destruction of Russia since 1991.


    I think that the West has a sincere desire to destroy Russia since the time of Napoleon, through the Crimean War, until the collapse of the Russian Empire and thus the destruction of the identity of the Russian people. Recent examples are World War II and what is happening now.


    It's not only Russia, the West (meaning the ruling elite) want to drag down all other countries including their allies, and to some extent their own citizens (the deplorables) by creating conflicts between each other. As long as Russia is dragging down Ukraine and the EU mission accomplished.

    The British Empire is also considered the largest empire ever, so Britain in union with the US is trying to get back what it once had - and even more than that. It turns out that the USA is just a "whip" of British politics, although the bottom line is that both of these countries follow the same policy.
    Great Britain (England) is the greatest danger to human civilization and the USA has inherited that "flow" of politics.


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    Post  Podlodka77 Tue Oct 04, 2022 8:35 am

    TASS

    The Russian army in union with the units of the liberated regions fulfills the desire of the fighters of Ukroshitstan to go to the eternal hunting grounds.
    TASS publishes the full report in 2 to 2 and a half hours.





    * October 4, 09:53,
    updated October 4, 09:57
    Military operation in Ukraine

    The Russian Guard liquidated the sabotage and reconnaissance group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Kherson region


    Employees of the department seized small arms and hand-held anti-tank grenade launchers of foreign production, striking elements for an improvised explosive device, ammunition
    The special forces of the Russian Guard eliminated the sabotage and reconnaissance group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Kherson region. This was reported to TASS on Tuesday by the press service of the Russian Guard.
    "In the course of special targeted events in one of the settlements of the Kherson region, the special forces of the Russian Guard eliminated the enemy's sabotage and reconnaissance group," the report says.
    The department noted that at the site of the clash, the National Guard seized small arms and hand-held anti-tank grenade launchers of foreign production, striking elements for an improvised explosive device, ammunition and uniforms of the Armed Forces of Ukraine





    * October 4, 10:15
    Military operation in Ukraine

    The Russian Defense Ministry showed footage of the destruction of Ukrainian equipment by artillery of the Airborne Forces during a special operation

    As a result of the strike, a large number of Ukrainian military personnel were destroyed, as well as 5 tanks, 6 infantry fighting vehicles, 23 armored fighting vehicles and 11 vehicles.
    The Russian Defense Ministry on Tuesday published footage of artillery strikes of the Airborne Forces (VDV) on the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) reconnoitered using a quadrocopter, as a result of which a large number of Ukrainian nationalists and enemy equipment were destroyed.
    "Units of the Airborne Forces inflicted a fire defeat on the Kiev radicals in the zone of the SMO. The artillery of the Airborne Forces, using quadrocopters, discovered the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and destroyed the enemy's manpower and equipment with a massive fire strike," the commentary to the video posted on the official Telegram channel of the Ministry of Defense reads. RF.
    The military department noted that as a result of the strike, a large number of Ukrainian military personnel were destroyed, as well as 5 tanks, 6 infantry fighting vehicles, 23 armored fighting vehicles and 11 vehicles.






    10:24
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    The DPR reported the loss of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the republic for the day up to 50 people

    According to the deputy head of the People's Militia Department of the Republic, Eduard Basurin, the servicemen of the DPR and the RF Armed Forces also destroyed an artillery mount, two tanks, eight armored vehicles and vehicles.

    DONETSK, 4 October. /TASS/. Losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) per day in battles with units of the Donetsk People's Republic (DPR) and the Armed Forces of Russia amounted to 50 people. This was announced on Tuesday by the deputy head of the People's Militia Department of the DPR, Eduard Basurin.
    "Losses in the enemy's manpower amounted to 50 personnel," the Telegram channel of the People's Militia quoted him as saying.
    Basurin added that the servicemen of the DPR and the RF Armed Forces also destroyed an artillery mount, two tanks, eight armored vehicles and vehicles.









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    Post  Firebird Tue Oct 04, 2022 9:42 am

    Podlodka77 wrote:
    Erk wrote:
    Podlodka77 wrote:
    Firebird wrote:Gotta laugh at the Ameri-fags threatening to destroy the Black Sea Fleet and all the Ru forces in the Pukraine.

    I hope Putin tells the scum what the response would be ie a massive levelling of American military and infrastructures worldwide.
    It really shows how America literally is Satan on Earth and was planning the destruction of Russia since 1991.


    I think that the West has a sincere desire to destroy Russia since the time of Napoleon, through the Crimean War, until the collapse of the Russian Empire and thus the destruction of the identity of the Russian people. Recent examples are World War II and what is happening now.


    It's not only Russia, the West (meaning the ruling elite) want to drag down all other countries including their allies, and to some extent their own citizens (the deplorables) by creating conflicts between each other. As long as Russia is dragging down Ukraine and the EU mission accomplished.

    The British Empire is also considered the largest empire ever, so Britain in union with the US is trying to get back what it once had - and even more than that. It turns out that the USA is just a "whip" of British politics, although the bottom line is that both of these countries follow the same policy.
    Great Britain (England) is the greatest danger to human civilization and the USA has inherited that "flow" of politics



    I'm Russian on my one side, and British on the other. British born.
    The British media is so vile and offensive I actually struggle to watch it. I turn off when the Pukraine comes on.
    These holier than thou pricks pretending to "moralise" but all they do is spout utter lies.
    If my Russian speaking was better I'd have fucked off to Russia long ago. Prob still will.

    But anyway, America basically inherited all the (non)principles of the British Empire.
    The British Establishment is basically their bitchboy. On a world level Britain is as significant as a shit floating in a swimming pool.

    Occasionally Germany, France, Italy etc have a leader who sees sense. Just as Hungary is doing right now. I think it could be decades before Europe finally wakes up to the fact its Uncle Sham's homosexual slave and nothing more. Britain, I doubt will ever wake up. Thats why British people call Britain the 51st state. Its never meant as a compliment.

    Putin needs to go hard, really hard. The red line of red lines has been overcrossed far too many times and for too long.

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Oct 04, 2022 10:00 am

    Firebird wrote:
    I'm Russian on my one side, and British on the other. British born.
    The British media is so vile and offensive I actually struggle to watch it. I turn off when the Pukraine comes on.
    These holier than thou pricks pretending to "moralise" but all they do is spout utter lies.
    If my Russian speaking was better I'd have fucked off to Russia long ago. Prob still will.
    But anyway, America basically inherited all the (non)principles of the British Empire.
    The British Establishment is basically their bitchboy. On a world level Britain is as significant as a shit floating in a swimming pool.
    Occasionally Germany, France, Italy etc have a leader who sees sense. Just as Hungary is doing right now. I think it could be decades before Europe finally wakes up to the fact its Uncle Sham's homosexual slave and nothing more. Britain, I doubt will ever wake up. Thats why British people call Britain the 51st state. Its never meant as a compliment.
    Putin needs to go hard, really hard. The red line of red lines has been overcrossed far too many times and for too long.

    Hm.
    I have heard once quite an interesting opinion.
    American war for independence was carried out while the Brits were starting to reach an apogee of the imperial status and might.
    Industrial revolution was already going on, bringing wealth, mass production, and lowering the cost of mobilization&equipment of both army and navy.
    On the other side, it brought some instability and social disorders, as the rural population structure was twisted.
    That made just a perfect occasion to increase the army ranks, while the cannon fodder was served cold, and the equipment was much less expensive than a decade earlier.
    England was humiliated by the oversea defeat, which increased the position of France on the same wave.
    How was that possible, that the war was carried careless, without placing much attention to it, and - what is most bizarre - how the empire was not trying to make a second attempt, this time seriously?
    Maybe it has a second ground there? Like making an overseas beachhead that can be used for other purposes later? Far away from the European bulldog fights? Objectively safe, with waste resources and landmass to subdue?
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    Post  Hole Tue Oct 04, 2022 10:10 am

    flamming_python wrote:Russia was making a gamble. They tried to split the leadership in Kiev, make deals, get the army to defect, etc... all to no avail.
    Then it tried the diplomatic route. That again was a failure.
    No gamble. No miscalculation. Deliberate action. The pain dial exists, not only for the enemy in Kiev/Brussels/Washington but for the own population and the people in the Global South, which support or at least neutrality is needed to overcome sanctions.

    Best way to deal with the Nazi problem: mobilize 300.000+ men back in last December after sending the proposals (Crimea is Russian, Donbass gets autonomy, "Ukraine" becomes neutral) to the western elites. Then bring in 500.000 soldiers into the theater and destroy the Nazi regime, take the whole fake country and erase it.

    Support at home: clear minority
    Support in the Global South: minimal

    Instead Russia started the SMO and showed readiness to make diplomatic deals. Goal: Crimea is Russian, Donbass gets independece, de-militarised "Ukraine" (the pain dial went up on the diplomatic front as we can clearly see). Huge support for that at home and in the Global South.

    Today forces are mobilized and 4 Regions/Republics became part of Russia. The pain dial went up again.

    Support at home: overwhelming (most people: It´s damn time!)
    Support in the Global South: majority support the move, the rest is neutral (and tells Russia behind closed doors: do what you got to do!)

    Even now I don´t think that Russia will turn the pain dial to the maximum. Russian territory will be liberated in full + a few important regions (Nikolaev and Odessa) but after that Russia will show readiness for some talks again. Not that the leadership thinks there is something to talk about with the west or that they would be successful, but to show the people at home and in the Global South that Russia is the side that wants peace.

    To clarify: I wrote this before watching the video of the Duran. Mercouris makes roughly the same points as I am.

    One more point: I think the Kremlin made up his mind about the incorporation of the 4 Regions/Republics and the mobilization in late August or beginning of September. In other words before the Kherson and Kharkov "offensives" started in earnest. At that point the General Staff was already preparing a big offensive as we can see by all those videos of equipment moving into the theater. There is no point in loosing men in defending some small village or some suare kilometres of open terrain if you are close to such an (propably) strategic operation.


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    Post  Hole Tue Oct 04, 2022 10:14 am

    ALAMO wrote:
    How was that possible, that the war was carried careless, without placing much attention to it, and - what is most bizarre - how the empire was not trying to make a second attempt, this time seriously?
    Maybe it has a second ground there? Like making an overseas beachhead that can be used for other purposes later? Far away from the European bulldog fights? Objectively safe, with waste resources and landmass to subdue?
    If I remember correctly (was a long time ago) the Brits invaded from Canada and even burned down Washington (the village, not the guy). Then there was some settlement. I guess the british elite found and "independent" Amerika more usefull, a great way of getting rid of poor and criminal people from all corners of Little Britain.
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    Post  Podlodka77 Tue Oct 04, 2022 10:43 am

    TASS


    October 4, 12:08

    Shoigu: the use of new units in the SMO is planned with units already involved

    Military personnel drafted into the armed forces as part of partial mobilization will be sent to the areas of the special military operation after combat coordination and will be used together with the units already involved in the SMO, said Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu.
    "Military personnel should be sent to combat areas after training and combat coordination," Shoigu said at a conference call on Tuesday.
    He demanded that the commanders of the military districts and the Northern Fleet "in order to quickly adapt the recruits to the combat situation, conduct additional training with them under the guidance of officers with combat experience." "The use of these units should be planned only jointly with those units that are already participating in a special military operation," the defense minister ordered.




    October 4, 12:09

    Shoigu said that the Russian Armed Forces shot down seven planes and 45 drones of the Armed Forces of Ukraine during the referendum days


    During the days of the referenda in the Donetsk and LuGansk People's Republics, as well as in the Zaporozhye and Kharkiv regions, the Russian armed forces shot down seven planes and 45 drones of the Ukrainian army, more than 100 missiles of the enemy's HIMARS and Alder (Olkha) installations, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said on Tuesday .



    October 4, 11:39 am
    updated October 4, 11:57

    Three volunteer battalions are planned to be created in Zaporozhye

    According to the chairman of the movement "We are together with Russia" Vladimir Rogov, their formation is active, "people want to fight for their native land"

    Residents of the Zaporozhye region will create three volunteer battalions - named after Sudoplatov, named after St. Andrew the First-Called and the Slavic Guard battalion. This was announced on Tuesday to a TASS correspondent by the chairman of the movement "We are together with Russia" Vladimir Rogov.
    According to him, the formation of the First Zaporozhye Battalion named after Sudoplatov is currently very active. "People apply every day, submit applications, they want to fight for their native land, protecting the Cossacks from the lawlessness that the regime of [Ukrainian President Volodymyr] Zelensky (Nazi cocksucker) is doing. I think the battalion will be formed fairly quickly, and in a month and a half we will begin to form the Second Zaporozhye Battalion named after Andrew the First-Called,” he said. The third battalion will be called the Slavic Guard, Rogov added.

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    Post  kvs Tue Oct 04, 2022 11:08 am

    Podlodka77 wrote:
    Firebird wrote:Gotta laugh at the Ameri-fags threatening to destroy the Black Sea Fleet and all the Ru forces in the Pukraine.

    I hope Putin tells the scum what the response would be ie a massive levelling of American military and infrastructures worldwide.
    It really shows how America literally is Satan on Earth and was planning the destruction of Russia since 1991.


    I think that the West has a sincere desire to destroy Russia since the time of Napoleon, through the Crimean War, until the collapse of the Russian Empire and thus the destruction of the identity of the Russian people. Recent examples are World War II and what is happening now.
    I think that Ivan IV Vasilyevich started to create a huge state with the victory over the Kazan and Astrakhan khanates. Of course, in the West it is called a terrible..
    The temple of Vasily the Blessed was built in honor of that victory.



    It goes back to the time of Alexander Nevsky and the Teutonic Order crusades. A foundation for the western hate of Russia
    is the schism in the Church. Drang nach osten for the last 1000+ years has been about converting the Orthodox heretics.
    There as been success in Poland, Czechia, Slovakia, etc. The root of rabid Ukra ethno-fascist nazionalism is the cultural
    and religious assimilation into the "western world" under the rule of the Grand Duchy of Poland and Lithuania centuries ago.
    It is the never ending project of the west.

    But Russia has been resisting successfully for 1000 years and it does not look to me like the west is closer to winning but
    instead is losing its grip for a very long time.

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    Post  ucmvulcan Tue Oct 04, 2022 11:08 am

    Sudoplatov? The NKVD agent who asked a Ukrainian terrorist, if he'd like a chocolate while giving him a box of chocolates that even Forrest Gump would approve of, and then who later axed Trotsky if he could see the inside of his head, then led counterintel against the CIA's spiritual ancestors and then led efforts to spy on the Manhattan Project? I love the subtlety if that's the case.
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    Post  Podlodka77 Tue Oct 04, 2022 11:40 am

    13:03 04.10.2022 (updated: 13:53 04.10.2022)
    RIA Novosti

    More than 200,000 people called up for partial mobilization arrived in the Russian Armed Forces

    Shoigu: more than 200,000 drafted during partial mobilization arrived in the Russian Armed Forces

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    MOSCOW, October 4 - RIA Novosti. The Ministry of Defense has fulfilled plans for partial mobilization by more than two-thirds, follows from the speech of the head of the department, Sergei Shoigu, at a conference call.
    "Today, more than 200 thousand people have arrived in the armed forces. <...> The training of personnel of the formed units is carried out at 80 training grounds and in six training centers," he said.
    The officials were instructed to provide the mobilized with sets of clothes and other property, to appoint them to military positions.

    Shoigu stressed that those called up for partial mobilization will be sent to the areas of the special military operation only after combat coordination, together with the units already involved. He demanded that the commanders of the military districts and the Northern Fleet "in order to quickly adapt the recruits to the combat situation, conduct additional training with them under the guidance of officers with combat experience."

    According to the head of the Ministry of Defense, during the autumn conscription, conscripts finishing their service will return home, and new conscripts will serve in units not involved in a special military operation.
    The fall draft this year will begin a month later than usual, in November, and the transfer to the reserve will take place from October to December. It is planned to call on 120,000 people - 7,500 fewer than last fall.

    https://ria.ru/20221004/mobilizatsiya-1821391263.html


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    14:02 04.10.2022
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    The mobilized are being trained near the areas of the special operation

    Ministry of Defense: mobilized and volunteers are being trained near the areas of special operation

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    LUGANSK, 4 Oct - RIA Novosti. Mobilized and volunteers from the Russian Federation have begun combat coordination near the areas of the special military operation (SVO) in Ukraine, a representative of the Russian Defense Ministry told RIA Novosti.
    Partial mobilization in Russia was announced by presidential decree from September 21. According to Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, it is needed to control the 1,000-kilometer line of contact and the liberated territories in Ukraine. During the mobilization, a total of 300,000 reservists will be called up, which is just over 1% of the total mobilization resource of the Russian Federation.

    "Citizens called up from the reserve as part of partial mobilization and volunteers began combat coordination as part of units at training grounds in close proximity to the areas of combat missions. After undergoing training under the individual training program at training grounds in the regions of conscription, the servicemen departed for the places of combat coordination as part of units," a spokesman for the Russian Defense Ministry said.
    He clarified that at the moment, the arrived military personnel are mastering military equipment and weapons, as well as honing their skills in fire training with standard weapons and military equipment as part of units on tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, armored personnel carriers, artillery systems and air defense systems (air defense).

    "After the combat coordination, the units, staffed by mobilized citizens and volunteers, will begin to carry out tasks to control and defend the liberated territories, as well as acting as part of reserve and reinforcement units," the representative of the Russian defense department specified.


    https://ria.ru/20221004/mobilizovannye-1821414483.html


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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Tue Oct 04, 2022 12:41 pm

    After having pulled back from Dudchany, it appears the northern UA group have stopped for now. Most likely to reinforce in the west where UA have not managed to breach Davydov Brod defensive lines. New assaults are expected along the entire Kherson line today.
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    That is too much movement in the wrong direction for me.
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    Post  zorobabel Tue Oct 04, 2022 12:46 pm

    Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:After having pulled back from Dudchany, it appears the northern UA group have stopped for now. Most likely to reinforce in the west where UA have not managed to breach Davydov Brod defensive lines. New assaults are expected along the entire Kherson line today.
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    That is too much movement in the wrong direction for me.
    Latest map is worse. Apparently Russian positions collapsed on the north Kherson front. Russians withdrawing to try to form a defense line (again).

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    Post  Podlodka77 Tue Oct 04, 2022 12:53 pm

    TASS

    Departures of Ukroshitstan fighters to the eternal hunting grounds on October 4...






    * The RF Armed Forces killed up to 250 servicemen in the Krivoy Rog and Andreev directions


    The Russian Aerospace Forces attacked units of three brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Krivoy Rog and Andreev directions, up to 250 Ukrainian soldiers were destroyed.
    "In the Krivoy Rog and Andriyivsk directions, as a result of Russian Aerospace Forces strikes on units of the 24th Mechanized, 17th Tank and 128th Mountain Assault Brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the areas of the settlements of Belaya Krinitsa, Arkhangelskoye, Lyubimovka and Zolotaya Balka, nine tanks, 12 combat infantry vehicles, 20 vehicles and up to 250 military personnel," Konashenkov said.





    * Russian Armed Forces destroyed up to 90 military units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with a missile strike in the Lisichansk direction

    MOSCOW, 4 October. /TASS/. The RF Armed Forces launched a missile attack on the enemy’s manpower and equipment in the GriIn the Lisichansk direction, as a result of a missile attack on manpower and equipment of the 54th mechanized brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the area of ​​​​the village of Grigorovka, up to 90 servicemen, three tanks and six armored vehicles were destroyed," Konashenkov said.
    "In the Lisichansk direction, as a result of a missile attack on manpower and equipment of the 54th mechanized brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the area of ​​​​the village of Grigorovka, up to 90 servicemen, three tanks and six armored vehicles were destroyed," Konashenkov said.






    * Russian Armed Forces killed more than 120 nationalists in the Krasnoliman direction


    During a special operation, Russian troops killed more than 120 nationalists in the Krasnolimansky direction, hitting units of the 66th mechanized brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) and two points of temporary deployment of Ukrainian national formations. This was stated on Tuesday by the official representative of the Russian Defense Ministry, Lieutenant-General Igor Konashenkov.
    "In the Krasnolimansky direction in the area of ​​​​the village of Torskoye, massive fire damage was inflicted on units of the 66th mechanized brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and two points of temporary deployment of nationalist formations. More than 120 nationalists and 14 armored vehicles were destroyed," he said.





    * Russian Armed Forces destroyed up to 100 military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Kupyansk direction


    This was stated on Tuesday by the official representative of the Russian Defense Ministry, Lieutenant-General Igor Konashenkov.
    "Up to 100 military personnel, including foreign mercenaries, and 16 units of military equipment, were destroyed by missile strikes on the areas of concentration of units of the 14th and 92nd mechanized brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Kupyanskiy direction in the areas of the settlements of Dvurechnaya, Petropavlovka and Kupyansk, Kharkov region," - he said.






    * The Russian Aerospace Forces on the southwestern outskirts of the Dnieper hit the headquarters of the Air Command "Vostok" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine


    The Russian Aerospace Forces (VKS) on the southwestern outskirts of the Dnieper hit the headquarters of the Vostok Air Command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with a precision strike. This was announced to journalists on Tuesday by the official representative of the Ministry of Defense (MO) of the Russian Federation, Lieutenant-General Igor Konashenkov.
    "On the southwestern outskirts of the Dnieper, a high-precision strike by the Russian Aerospace Forces hit the headquarters of the Vostok Air Command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine," he said.





    * The RF Armed Forces hit aircraft repair shops on the territory of the Motor Sich plant in Zaporozhye


    This was announced on Tuesday by the official representative of the Russian Defense Ministry, Lieutenant-General Igor Konashenkov.
    "Rocket strikes near the city of Zaporozhye hit the ammunition depot of the 65th mechanized brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, as well as aircraft repair workshops on the territory of the Motor Sich plant. More than 15 tons of ammunition were destroyed, including shells for the American HIMARS multiple launch rocket system, and also two Ukrainian combat helicopters Mi-24," he said.






    * Aviation, missilemen and artillerymen of the RF Armed Forces hit five command posts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

    During a special operation, aviation, missile forces and artillery hit five command posts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in a day. This was stated on Tuesday by the official representative of the Russian Defense Ministry, Lieutenant-General Igor Konashenkov.
    "The strikes of operational-tactical and army aviation, missile troops and artillery hit five command posts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the districts of the city of Kharkov, the settlements of Kramatorsk of the Donetsk People's Republic, Nikopol of the Dnepropetrovsk region, Zeleny Guy of the Kherson region and Bereznegovatoe of the Nikolaev region, as well as 43 artillery units, live force and military equipment in 157 districts," he said.
    According to him, five depots of ammunition and rocket and artillery weapons were destroyed in the areas of the settlements of Torskoye, Malinovka, Zhelannoe of the Donetsk People's Republic, Dimitrovo, Zaporozhye region and Shevchenko, Nikolaev region.




    * The Russian Armed Forces (AF) destroyed the radar of the S-300 anti-aircraft missile system of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) in the Dnepropetrovsk region
    , Lieutenant General Igor Konashenkov, spokesman for the RF Ministry of Defense (MO), told reporters on Tuesday.
    "A radar of the S-300 anti-aircraft missile system was destroyed near the village of Aleksandrovka, Dnepropetrovsk region," he said.




    * The Russian armed forces destroyed the Ukrainian Buk-M1 anti-aircraft missile system in the Donetsk People's Republic.
    This was announced on Tuesday by the official representative of the Russian Defense Ministry, Lieutenant-General Igor Konashenkov.
    "A Buk-M1 anti-aircraft missile system was destroyed near the village of Chasov Yar in the Donetsk People's Republic," Konashenkov said.



    * Russian air defense destroyed two Tochka-U missiles and nine HIMARS and Alder MLRS shells


    "In a day, eight unmanned aerial vehicles were destroyed by air defense systems in the areas of the settlements of Nikolaevka in the Kharkov region, Harvest, Stepnoye, Zaporozhye of the Donetsk People's Republic, Pyatikhatki, Aleksandrovka, Kakhovka and Koshara in the Kherson region. Also, in the area of ​​​​the settlement of Rovenki in the Lugansk People's Republic, two ballistic missiles "Tochka-U".
    In addition, nine shells of HIMARS and Alder multiple launch rocket systems were destroyed in the air in the areas of the settlements of Novaya Kakhovka and Chernobaevka in the Kherson region," the lieutenant general said.
    According to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, since the beginning of the special military operation, the following have been destroyed: 312 aircraft, 157 helicopters, 2,145 unmanned aerial vehicles, 379 anti-aircraft missile systems, 5,336 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 860 multiple rocket launcher combat vehicles, 3,445 field artillery guns and mortars, as well as 6,226 units of special military vehicles.





















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    Post  AlfaT8 Tue Oct 04, 2022 12:55 pm

    Mad Mad Mad
    This is extremly frustrating indeed. Mad

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    Post  DerWolf Tue Oct 04, 2022 1:06 pm

    Never thought something like this would happen.

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    Post  Mir Tue Oct 04, 2022 1:07 pm

    Yes not nice to see but the pullback brings out the rats from their burrows to get slaughtered.

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    Post  PhSt Tue Oct 04, 2022 1:12 pm

    Mir wrote:Yes not nice to see but the pullback brings out the rats from their burrows to get slaughtered.

    If the Ukro Nazis are getting slaughtered, why are they able to advance and overun Russian territories? Something here doesn't add up..

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    Post  Stealthflanker Tue Oct 04, 2022 1:16 pm

    Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:
    That is too much movement in the wrong direction for me.

    Well yeah.

    It supposed to be balanced with much increased air support attempt, or even heavier artillery strike.. which where were they now ? particularly air support. Like those 6 airbases in Crimea should do something, really. Still no real information anyway of how many sorties these airbases did and how much ordnance delivered to ukrainian forces. That's kinda how Israeli fight in 1973's where they practically developed and doing hot-refuelling procedure. They were having many losses in aircrafts too.

    Russians can probably deploy Tu-22M3 but this needs immense support jamming and then there is still no guarantee that no aircraft will be lost.

    If they lacked men.. then where were the rest of the forces previously used to take Kherson oblast in the first place ?

    Despite of any successes in liquidating Ukrainian manpower.. Citizens in Kherson and well basically Donbass and Lugansk may not feel convenient at all seeing that the defense are getting closer and closer to where they live. This is not something that can be taken lightly.

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