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    Post  Arkanghelsk Mon Sep 12, 2022 4:15 pm

    Scorpius wrote:
    https://t.me/aleksandr_skif/2376[/quote]

    Khodakovsky is an LDPR commander, sure he has weight behind what he says

    But let's get down to the business at hand

    Kharkov had 5 BTGs defending, and that's why they retreated

    Many maps were published showing about 20BTG in donetsk , and something like 5 to 7 in Kharkov

    Intentional? Maybe to draw Ukrainians forward

    As for lack of equipment, how? Artillery was never in short supply, although the amount of tanks was lacking and generally mechanization

    It was more of a trench war

    Even helicopters and aircraft have not flown at the intensity we saw earlier in April and May, or even June , July

    I don't know if mobilization is the answer, perhaps the general staff wants a good reserve formed

    But in my uneducated opinion, based on what I saw in Syria

    What is needed to to do as they started in kharkov,, hit the critical infrastructure, and begin to bombard the entire city and the army wherever it hides

    Send in the army and clean up

    Repeat

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    Post  Backman Mon Sep 12, 2022 4:23 pm

    limb wrote:[quote="Kr

    Is this only from the retreat?[/quote]

    That list is fake. Jfc. There was no contact between forces.

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    Post  caveat emptor Mon Sep 12, 2022 4:29 pm

    Mobilization doesn't have to equal general mobilization. If they start to call people up, it would be few tens of thousands, not milions of people. Probably, ex-contractors that left army in the last 5 years, or something along those lines.
    I fail to see how will that influence economy in a major way.

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Sep 12, 2022 4:37 pm

    Summary of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the progress of a special military operation on the territory of Ukraine (12.09.2022)

    The Russian Aerospace Forces, rocket troops and artillery continue to deliver precision strikes on the units and reserves of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

    in the Kharkiv region.

    💥 In the areas of the settlements of Kupyansk and Izyum, the manpower and military equipment of the nationalist formation "Kraken", the 113th Territorial Defense Brigade and the 93rd mechanized brigade were hit. The enemy's losses amounted to 250 soldiers and more than 20 pieces of military equipment.

    Units of the 63rd mechanized and 46th airmobile brigades were hit by high-precision missile strikes of the Russian Aerospace Forces in the Mykolaiv-Krivoy Rog direction in the areas of the settlements of Kostroma and Belogorka, Kherson region.

    💥 In the area of the Voznesensk settlement of the Mykolaiv region, an ammunition depot was destroyed, where 45 thousand tons of APU ammunition were stored.

    In total, over the past day in this operational area during the fighting, the Kiev regime has lost over three hundred killed and up to a thousand wounded Ukrainian servicemen.

    💥 In the area of the settlement of Rogi, Cherkasy region, a high-precision strike was carried out by the Russian Aerospace Forces at the temporary deployment point of a unit of the motorized infantry brigade of the operational reserve of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. More than 30 nationalists and more than 10 units of special military equipment and vehicles were destroyed.

    Strikes by operational-tactical and army aviation, missile troops and artillery against military facilities on the territory of Ukraine continue.

    During the day, four AFU control points were hit in the areas of the settlements of Slavyansk, Artemovsk and Konstantinovka of the Donetsk People's Republic, Olgovskoye of the Zaporozhye region, as well as 36 artillery units, manpower and Ukrainian military equipment in 125 districts.

    As a result of the strikes, three warehouses of rocket and artillery weapons and ammunition were destroyed in the areas of the settlements of Novomikhailovka of the Donetsk People's Republic, Kalinovskoye of the Dnipropetrovsk region and Poltava of the Zaporozhye region.

    In addition, an electronic warfare station was destroyed near the settlement of Zaliznichnoye in the Zaporozhye region, and workshops for the repair and restoration of multiple rocket launchers were destroyed in Kramatorsk of the Donetsk People's Republic.

    💥 By means of air defense, five unmanned aerial vehicles were shot down during the day in the areas of the settlements of Nikolaevka of the Luhansk People's Republic, Slavnoye of the Donetsk People's Republic, Petrovka of the Zaporozhye region, Bezvodnoye and Vishnevoye of the Kherson region.

    Also, eight HIMARS and Alder multiple rocket launchers were destroyed in the air in the areas of the Kakhovskaya HPP, the settlements of Lyubimovka, Berislav and Tavriyskoye in the Kherson region.

    In total, since the beginning of the special military operation, 293 aircraft, 153 helicopters, 1,938 unmanned aerial vehicles, 374 anti-aircraft missile systems, 4,891 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 831 multiple rocket launchers, 3,379 field artillery and mortar guns, as well as 5,499 units of special military vehicles have been destroyed.

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Sep 12, 2022 4:38 pm

    flamming_python wrote:

    What did Sharyi say?

    He was panicking for 3 days in a row, spreading tons of bullshit and fakes.
    Just like some folks here Laughing

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    Post  Hole Mon Sep 12, 2022 4:40 pm

    They knew. But why do they have to make is so difficult for themselves and especially their supporters propaganda wise? There has to be a better way than this. The world is watching the maps whether they like it or not. Whether it is a territorial line or not. Propaganda wise they should have one job. Avoid a shitstorm like this.
    Why should the Russian General Staff care about the feelings of some randome dudes in the Internet/on Twitter?

    What do you expect them to do? Post a long explanation on their website, telling us that the Nazi regime plans an "offensive" and Russia will take back her forces from there to let the Nazis chase ghosts, shorten the frontline and free up additional forces to break through the last remaining "fortresses" in the Donbass area?  scratch

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    Post  Hole Mon Sep 12, 2022 4:42 pm

    Heard rumours that the SMO will be turned into an official Anti-Terror Operation. Not sure what that would mean or change.  dunno

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    Post  Backman Mon Sep 12, 2022 4:44 pm

    TMA1 wrote:He could be right that it was a PR move, but I find it quite amusing how sure these osint "experts" are in their theories knowing jack shit. Also was he one of the millions panicking the last couple days?

    Also with the game War Thunder there have been some legit issues WT doesnt seem to address and everyone soured on it. Now though it has become a meme that everyone always complains about WT and how they miss the good old days. Is there a similar meme with Russians when discussing shit like this?

    PR does matter. One of the pillars of Putins governing style is public opinion. He cares what the ppl think. You just have to. Why did he post his opinion on the matter ? It's just yet another opinion. Which is the problem according to him.

    Cutting the power did calm everyone down a bit. It was worth it. You cant just disregard what the population thinks

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    Post  Backman Mon Sep 12, 2022 4:49 pm

    Hole wrote:
    [size=23shitstorm like this.[/size]
    Why should the Russian General Staff care about the feelings of some randome dudes in the Internet/on Twitter?

    What do you expect them to do? Post a long explanation on their website, telling us that the Nazi regime plans an "offensive" and Russia will take back her forces from there to let the Nazis chase ghosts, shorten the frontline and free up additional forces to break through the last remaining "fortresses" in the Donbass area?  scratch

    There was just 5 BTG's holding the entire zone. Perhaps there could have been 4-5x that many ? Then they'd probably be able to beat it back.
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    Post  Scorpius Mon Sep 12, 2022 4:54 pm

    Backman wrote:
    There was just 5 BTG's holding the entire zone. Perhaps there could have been 4-5x that many ? Then they'd probably be able to beat it back.

    The head of the military-civil administration of the Kherson region (?(I may be wrong, because I saw the news only out of the corner of my eye and it was already lost in the telegram feed of the channels) reported that the Ukrainian troops had achieved an eight-fold numerical advantage in the breakthrough area. So it is likely that there were not even 4-5 Btgrs on the part of the Russian troops

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Sep 12, 2022 4:57 pm

    Hole wrote:Heard rumours that the SMO will be turned into an official Anti-Terror Operation. Not sure what that would mean or change.  dunno

    The first thing that is coming to my mind is using police forces.
    In Chechnya, a lot of anti-terror groups from law enforcement bodies were used.
    With a different effect, honestly.


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    Post  caveat emptor Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:01 pm

    Scorpius wrote:
    The head of the military-civil administration of the Kherson region (?(I may be wrong, because I saw the news only out of the corner of my eye and it was already lost in the telegram feed of the channels) reported that the Ukrainian troops had achieved an eight-fold numerical advantage in the breakthrough area. So it is likely that there were not even 4-5 Btgrs on the part of the Russian troops
    Izyum grouping was around 20k at the time of active fights in April or May and cut to around 5k in Septembar. Balakleya sector had only 900 defenders, mostly LDNR reserve and two units of Rosgvardia. Ukrainians had 10:1 numerical superiority when they attacked.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:19 pm

    There hasn't been any hit to critical infrastructure in over a day which is weird because Russia should be hitting many places if if they are doing this.

    I wonder if Putin made them stand down
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    Post  franco Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:23 pm

    ALAMO wrote:
    Hole wrote:Heard rumours that the SMO will be turned into an official Anti-Terror Operation. Not sure what that would mean or change.  dunno

    The first thing that is coming to my mind is using police forces.
    In Chechnya, a lot of anti-terror groups from law enforcement bodies were used.
    With a different effect, honestly.

    Already using them in the SMO. Most of the Rosgvadia forces would fall under this category and there are around 15,000 or so in theater.

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    Post  limb Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:24 pm

    According to boris rozhin, svyatogorsk is partially occupied by the Ukrainians and they successfully created a bridgehead unimpeded which allowed them to transfer heavy equipment on the northern bank of the donets. Liman hasnt been reinforced at all, and the Ukrainians have material superiority against the defenders of liman.

    https://t.me/boris_rozhin/63632

    Apparently a krab howitzer was destroyed, and allegedly a himars was destroyed with a helicopter atgm. However the image was far too blurry to confirm if its actually a himars.
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    Post  limb Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:26 pm

    Mobilization has nothing good. This is in the best traditions of liberoid tales - the very thing to "throw corpses". Firstly, it is the withdrawal of labor from the economy. Secondly, you can read Alexander Khodakovsky, one of the commanders in the LDPR - he talks about the lack of combat equipment, heavy weapons, intelligence means - but not about the lack of ma

    How is there a lack of heavy weapons? The only way Russia csn lack them is through having massive losses

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:28 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:There hasn't been any hit to critical infrastructure in over a day which is weird because Russia should be hitting many places if if they are doing this.

    I wonder if Putin made them stand down

    Yes, zero.

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    That is why the Internet is down in Charkov again.
    There is no power and no water there, too.

    That is all due to "hasn't been any hits".

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    This is due to "hasn't been any hits" either.

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    Those AC units blowing up seem notorious!

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:30 pm

    That was the result of the first wave of hits, if you're going to try and insult do so with correct information just makes you look like a fool otherwise, I am saying they haven't hit others areas since they targetted those.

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:35 pm

    You are a bloody hopeless case of a rare species.
    Those are all from today's morning and afternoon.
    I will give you hint: there is a time bar at the bottom of the first pic.
    I know that might have been too complicated for ya', so giving a helpful hand.

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    Post  zorobabel Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:42 pm

    ColonelCassad: AFU have crossed the Donets and have captured part of Svyatogorsk. They are attempting to encircle Lyman.

    https://t.me/boris_rozhin/63632
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:43 pm

    ALAMO wrote:You are a bloody hopeless case of a rare species.
    Those are all from today's morning and afternoon.
    I will give you hint: there is a time bar at the bottom of the first pic.
    I know that might have been too complicated for ya', so giving a helpful hand.


    Lol are you serious your that delusional?

    That is a time bar yes but its related network connectivity, your are trying to claim those time stamps are a result of strikes on the 11th sure, but as of the 12th there have been no new strikes which means the downfall from the 12th is just a result from earlier strikes.

    Dude put down your drugs and stop being such a fanboy you have to try and defend every single little thing
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:44 pm

    zorobabel wrote:ColonelCassad: AFU have crossed the Donets and have captured part of Svyatogorsk. They are attempting to encircle Lyman.

    https://t.me/boris_rozhin/63632

    So now the fuckup is getting even worse oh wait I am sorry this was all part of the "plaaaaaaaan"

    but seriously what the hell are the Russians doing if that's true.
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    Post  ALAMO Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:46 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:

    Lol are you serious your that delusional?

    That is a time bar yes but its related network connectivity, your are trying to claim those time stamps are a result of strikes on the 11th sure, but as of the 12th there have been no new strikes which means the downfall from the 12th is just a result from earlier strikes.

    Dude put down your drugs and stop being such a fanboy you have to try and defend every single little thing

    Admit that: you are doing that with some unknown purpose.
    One can't be so stupid and keen to flush the toilet same time scratch
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:47 pm

    ALAMO wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:

    Lol are you serious your that delusional?

    That is a time bar yes but its related network connectivity, your are trying to claim those time stamps are a result of strikes on the 11th sure, but as of the 12th there have been no new strikes which means the downfall from the 12th is just a result from earlier strikes.

    Dude put down your drugs and stop being such a fanboy you have to try and defend every single little thing

    Admit that: you are doing that with some unknown purpose.
    One can't be so stupid and keen to flush the toilet same time scratch


    Ah nothing but insults this time around? welp just shows you didn't know what your talking about, next time do some research before you try and white knight for the russians bud ad that picture with just a watermark on it proves nothing, it could have been from literally any point of time. Don't ever post shit like that to me as proof.
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    Post  ALAMO Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:51 pm

    It is not an insult, but a fact.
    All the pics I linked are from today.
    There are tons of others all over the Ukro TG channels, sirens were roaring for a whole night in all the eastern Ukraine.
    Zaporozhe, Dnipro, Charkov, Artyomovsk, dozens of strikes all over.
    You can't read the time bar properly.
    Functional analphabetism, yup, that should be the closest call scratch

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