Russian special military operation in Ukraine #22

xeno wrote:
Not to mention the 9M544 that Russians used has a much longer range(120km) than that of Himars'....

That one has even the guidance fins, so it is part of ProNav.

UN: The Largest Number of Ukrainian Refugees Are Fleeing From “Russian Aggression” … to Russia! – Сталкер Zone

https://www.stalkerzone.org/un-the-largest-number-of-ukrainian-refugees-are-fleeing-from-russian-aggression-to-russia/


Eurasia & Multipolarity
Amnesty Ukraine chief resigned, accusing the organisation of serving "Russian propaganda"

The public organisation published a report on Thursday accusing the Ukrainian army of endangering civilians in its resistance to the Russian operation, drawing Kiev's ire.

"I am resigning from Amnesty International in Ukraine," Oksana Pokalchuk said in a press release on her Facebook page on Friday night to Saturday, accusing the report, published on 4 August, of unwittingly serving "Russian propaganda".

On Friday, Amnesty International said it fully confirmed its report accusing the Ukrainian army of endangering civilians in its resistance to the Russian operation by placing military infrastructure in populated areas.

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Russian Ministry of Defense
Summary of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the progress of a special military operation on the territory of Ukraine ️ (06.08.2022)

The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue a special military operation in Ukraine.

In the area of the village of Belogorka, Kherson region, Russian Aerospace Forces air strikes and artillery fire hit the temporary location of the 46th airmobile brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Over 400 nationalists were killed.

As a result of strikes by precision weapons of the Russian Aerospace Forces on the combat positions of the 105th battalion of the 63rd mechanized Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the areas of the settlements of Andreevka, Lozovoe and Dolgovoe in the Kherson region, more than 70 nationalists were killed and about 150 were injured.

In the village of Vyvodovo, Dnipropetrovsk region, as a result of a high-precision strike by the Russian Aerospace Forces on a stronghold of the "Foreign Legion" formation, more than 80 foreign mercenaries and 11 units of special equipment were destroyed.

Against the background of massive losses of Ukrainian troops in the Mykolaiv direction, servicemen of the 59th motorized infantry and 61st infantry-Jaeger brigades, as well as the 35th Marine brigade, refused to comply with the order to attack, leave their positions and desert.

Strikes by operational-tactical and army aircraft, rocket troops and artillery against military facilities on the territory of Ukraine continue.

During the day, the control point of the 10th mountain Assault Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Druzhkovka area of the Donetsk People's Republic, manpower and military equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in 135 districts were hit.

Two warehouses of rocket and artillery weapons and ammunition were destroyed in the areas of Trudovoye and Soledar localities of the Donetsk People's Republic.

In addition, a fuel depot of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with diesel fuel reserves of more than 50 thousand tons for military equipment of the Dnipro operational group of troops was destroyed near the city of Zaporozhye.

In the course of counter-battery fighting, a Ukrainian platoon of multiple launch rocket systems "Olkha" and American "HIMARS" was destroyed near the village of Pyatigorsk, Kharkiv region.

Also suppressed: five platoons of MLRS "Grad", three platoons of self-propelled artillery units "Gvozdika", an artillery platoon of guns "Hyacinth-B" and four artillery platoons of D-30 howitzers in firing positions in the areas of the settlements of Avdiivka, Soledar, Seversk, Serebryanka, Artemovsk, Novgorodskoe, Georgievka, Velikaya Novoselka, Shoestring Donetsk People's Republic, Kalinovka and Dobroye of the Mykolaiv region.

The Russian Aerospace Forces destroyed two Su-25s of the Ukrainian Air Force during the day. One Su-25 was destroyed in an air battle by tactical aircraft near Solntsevo, Kirovohrad region. Another Ukrainian Su-25 was shot down by air defense systems in the Radhospne area of the Kherson region.

Also, Russian air defense systems shot down eight unmanned aerial vehicles in the air near the settlements of Dibrovne, Suligovka, Dolhenke, Prishib, Bayrak, Volokhov Yar in Kharkiv region, Pologi in Zaporizhia region.

In addition, 26 multiple launch rocket systems were intercepted in the areas of the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station, Antonovsky Bridge, Chernobayevka, Brilevka, Novaya Kakhovka, Aleshkovskie Peski, Tsyurupinsk in the Kherson region, Sukhaya Kamenka and Barvenkovo in the Kharkiv region.

In total , 263 aircraft, 145 helicopters, 1,693 unmanned aerial vehicles, 361 anti-aircraft missile systems, 4,259 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 789 multiple launch rocket systems, 3,270 field artillery and mortar guns, and 4,739 units of special military vehicles have been destroyed since the beginning of the special military operation.

xeno wrote:
Not to mention the 9M544 that Russians used has a much longer range(120km) than that of Himars'....

I wonder how many Smerch rockets have been shot down by NASAM or even Starstreaks by now? It's a BIG rocket, much larger than HIMARS for instance that seems to be a fairly easy target for Pantsyr and Tor?

Another nice thing about Smerch is that it comes with its own toys >>

So there are some new stories going around. First the "report" that only 30% of western stuff makes it to the front because all the corruption in 404, second that artillery was send from the east to the south for the great counter-offensive.

In my opinion both are BS. Western propaganda.

Is 404 as corrupt as a country can get? Yes. But I doubt that from 15.000 AT weapons send 10.000 are stolen. They were destroyed by russian strikes just as the "missing" artillery in the east. This stories belong into the category: "The Russians achieved nothing, these are all fails of the Kiev regime".

The west needs those stories. Now they can tell the public that "if the Elenskiy regime wasn´t so corrupt the mighty western weapons would reach the front and show those evil russkies! If the regime would listen to western advice the artillery /M777777 and himarse) would be in the east and the russians would retreat!"

These stories prepare the western public for the day Elenskiy is removed from office.

It's not precise...
It's not even super-precise...
It's HYPER-precise!

We live in such a ridiculous world.

There is a reason the word hyperbole has "hyper" in it...

As demonstrated by social media and woke degeneracy we live in an era of mentally underdeveloped
people. This accounts for the infantile processing of information: wishful thinking and gaping awe
at wunderwaffen. Of course the mass media leverages this retardation, but at the end of the day
it is the retardation that is the problem.

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And here our dear Archangelsk wants Ukrainians wiped out.

I do hope sentiment like this is just an outburst and doesn’t gain traction. What happens to army in the field is one thing, but no point to go final solution on them
Ukrainian minority in Russia will only grow bigger and bigger and quality of their people is not bad. By quality I mean - they can speak the language, they don’t need cultural acclimatisation, their education, all brainwashing aside is still based on Soviet model. Russia didn’t have big brain drain as west expected, but it will have reverse effect.

A proven weapons system which hits the target accurately is worth 10 on paper, in the advertising brochures, or in the inventory but untested.

HIMARS is a proven weapons system at this point and should not be discounted. We don't know enough about the performance of the equivalent Smerch rocket to compare. But frankly its irrelevant. Russia has plenty of precision weapons to hit the Ukrs with already, and is doing so constantly.
The Ukrs only have one by this stage to engage Russian forces with, but are doing so with some success and so it should not be dismissed - especially as its radar reflection characteristics are still under analysis and air defense systems have not been optimized for it yet.

Arrow wrote:Smerch  is as mobile as Himars and it is precise. It also has ammunition assisted by GPS / GLONASS. In addition, a single launcher has 12 missiles.

Not sure about being more precise, the range is not that impressive tho. But when it comes to mobility, HIMARS due to the size is more mobile and easier to transport. Not that Ukraine can enjoy benefits of being able to transport these vehicles with C-130, so it kinda makes it irrelevant. HIMARS size is also better for hiding it or masking it as a simple truck. Wouldn’t surprise me if they park it next to civilian garbage trucks and the like and have a camo tarp or decoy on surviving ones. You wouldn’t be able to play cat and mouse game against Russia with MAZ-543/MAZ-7310 trucks. Not that it’s ideal to be hunted in the first place. Ukrainians are probably learning from Hamas. So I guess it’s not that it’s more mobile, it simply looks like a ordinary truck.

limb wrote:

Firebird wrote:So do we say "Ukrainians aren't Russians" and run away from it all?

Next is it "Belarussians aren't Russians, Siberians aren't Russians, Chechens, Altais. Tatars, Yakuts" etc . Surely u don't want that?

The American demons in Washington have been brainwashing the hohols for ages "you are not Russians, Russia is your enemy".

Well **** the Americans, these scummy ones I mean.

The Ukraine is as much a part of Russia as Muscovy. Thats why this operation is on.

As for the hohol excuse for a language. Well let it operate like the Altai, Yakut and other languages.... at best.  The natural order will make it less relevant given what the people of the region (minus NATO meddling) actually are. A strong Russia means a strong Russian language unifying its peoples is inevitable. Crush the Banderites, crush the nationalist filth and Hohol "language" become less and less forced upon them, less "desirable" if indeed it was ever even remotely. Remember even the scummy puppet leaders of "the Ukraine" don't even speak Ukrainian. Its simply a device of the Americans to cause bloodshed and misery. Kill the deception, kill the trash it spawns.

The truth is, as part of Russia, the garbage that is "Ukrainian" becomes  Surzhyk and Surzhyk becomes far less different than Muscovite or St Pburg Russian. Remove the disease of hohol nationalism and they become a region. A region that was duped by Uncle Sham the Satan. To put it another way, Ukrainian is basically a piss poor attempt to formalise a Russian dialect. Its like Geordie people in England claiming to be a separate nationality, for example.

China has many languages and its still one China. The Slavic langauges are more similar... but the West divided the Slavic world.

Anyway to conclude, the Ukraine belongs to Russia. Ukrainians belong to Russia. Those that don't like it can rot in a jail once convicted. Or **** off to Germany and clean toilets/suck German bratwurst (male or female hohols) given that Hohol-land seems to be infected with 'elensky's media class Western style faggotry).

Agree with everything except eradicating the Ukrainian language. Ukrainian and Russian form a dialect cpntinuum. The political connotations of a language cqn change.

Objectively Ukrainians have no reason to hate Russia. Russians liberated them from polish, austrian and islamic slavery.

Ukrainian and Belarusian Russophobia is 100 % created and imported by the polish szlachta and austrians as a way to divide and conquer their Rus subjects. Its also based on the lie of the holodomor.

Instead, Russia should make noth Ukrainian and Russian coofficial in the liberated territories and also encourage surzhyk, since ironically Ukrainians have done more to destroy linguistic diversity by forcing their autistic fake literary lwnguage on Ukraine. How about encourage Ukrainian and Russian historical closeness and debunk anti-russian myths? Another option is to rename Ukrainian as galician.

I thought my views/ideas might become unclear in the long text.
My idea is that Ukrainian should be little different to Yakut or the other regional languages of Russia.

The Ukrainian side has been acting in bad faith by massive USA funded propaganda, Azov terrorism etc etc.
Take away outside troublemaking and Ukrainian can in time become far far more benign.
And Russian can take a natural place as no less than a priority language across the Ukraine.

What has to be destroyed are the evil policies such as banning Russian use beyond "20%" and banning it in Novorossiyan schools etc.

To put it another way is this. Create circumstances where more people want to speak Russian. See it as cool, fun.common sense and their true identity.

The demons were strongly against federalisation of the Ukraine for many reasons. But one was that they believed Russian would become far more popular - just as an inevitable natural process. After all, the Ukraine has always flourished as part of the Russian world, and that means Russian langauge.
Those who are isolated eg rural workers are more likely to go to Surzhyk. And foreigners, Nazis, those sponsored by the USA are liable to want to push formalised "Ukrainian" down people's throats (and murder anyone who wants ties with the Ru Fed.

Ultimately Russia needs to show some force in detoxifying the Ukraine. But I think soft power will be a huge part of the language and cultural issue. Thats why it looks like Novorossiya (South and East), Malorossiya (middle) and rump Pukraine/Galicia+mini statelets in the West as the long term notion.

It would be a terminal mistake for Russia to preserve the south and east as "Ukraine". These Russian lands populated by ethnic Russians
need to be fully assimilated into Russia. All the "Ukrainians" can vote with their feet and bugger on off to true Ukraine around Lwow or
NATO.

The Soviet Ukraine project needs to be shut down. The Bolsheviks are the fathers of Ukraine. It is ridiculous how statues of
Lenin are dismantled by so-called Ukrainian nationalists. Lenin is the father of their "nation".

I think that it would be a Vietnam/Afghanistan for Russia to try and mess around in the Lwow region. That is the Banderite heartland
populated with actual Ukrainians. That is the true size of Ukraine and not the Soviet abomination.

Hole wrote:So there are some new stories going around. First the "report" that only 30% of western stuff makes it to the front because all the corruption in 404, second that artillery was send from the east to the south for the great counter-offensive.

In my opinion both are BS. Western propaganda.

Is 404 as corrupt as a country can get? Yes. But I doubt that from 15.000 AT weapons send 10.000 are stolen. They were destroyed by russian strikes just as the "missing" artillery in the east. This stories belong into the category: "The Russians achieved nothing, these are all fails of the Kiev regime".

The west needs those stories. Now they can tell the public that "if the Elenskiy regime wasn´t so corrupt the mighty western weapons would reach the front and show those evil russkies! If the regime would listen to western advice the artillery /M777777 and himarse) would be in the east and the russians would retreat!"

These stories prepare the western public for the day Elenskiy is removed from office.

Hahahah true, if it is not General Winter it is General Summer, one way or another it is not the Russians who win, but the elements that conspire to delay the only logical and unavoidable outcome, the eternal Reich of the West... what a bunch of deranged fucktards

I incidentally visited the thread about SMO at a certain board the other day and I got blown over. FYI, Russia has lost half of their tanks and 160k men. No shit. They are losing, losing and losing some more, right until the moment they will win and the Westerners will turn their attention into the next "current thing" to preserve their precarious composure from collapsing

flamming_python wrote: especially as its radar reflection characteristics are still under analysis and air defense systems have not been optimized for it yet.

That is being addressed as we speak, thanks to the generous donations from the West...

https://www.stalkerzone.org/the-donbass-frontline-has-moved/

There are NATO people from the western border to the frontlines. If something gets stolen this happens under their watch. 

billybatts91 wrote:

https://twitter.com/The_Real_Fly/status/1555976311952261120

If the UK is telling this then there is a huge propability that it won´t happen. 

I think that it would be a Vietnam/Afghanistan for Russia to try and mess around in the Lwow region. That is the Banderite heartland
populated with actual Ukrainians. That is the true size of Ukraine and not the Soviet abomination.

Well, a lot of the fighting in Afghanistan back in the 80´s was done by foreigners, brought in by the alphabet soup agencies.
This means Russia has to build a nice fortified border fence/wall/trench to NATO countries. After the west-loving Banderites left for the EU, of course.
Insurgency and demonstrations will be small without western money. It maybe fun for some Nazi hooligan to beat up a homeless person with baseball
bats but to fight an insurgency against Chechens... 

PapaDragon wrote:
Any actual news, gentlemen? Or are we just gonna piss in the wind, armchair style?

Care for some OSINT?. Tovarishch?

RF vangaurd clear Ukrainian fortifications.



RF armored train Yenisei operating in Ukraine



RF Acacia artillery taking out ukrainian vehicles



RF helicopter unguided rocket attack on ukrainians



RF supplies the liberated neighbouring towns around Lisichansk.



sign of Shevchenkovo being repainted







yes, These are Ukrainians that now serve under the Force Z banner.

What is the matter with Ukraine's attacks on nuclear plants? They have no problems killing civilians, so I assume their last desperate move will be trying to cause a second Chernobyl. How likely is it? Their attacks on nuclear plants do not seem to be very frequent, but who knows whether that was just a warm up. Maybe their real attack will be much bigger.
For the Western elites such a disaster would be a welcome justification for their totalitarian agenda in their own realm.

SeigSoloyvov wrote:Smerch isn't hyper-precise like Himars nor is it has mobile

The RF whiping out an nazi recruitment station at March 1st was reportedly done using Smerch guided munitions.

Certainly looks like an Smerch round.



Footage of this screenshot in this video around the 08:05 timestamp.

https://odysee.com/@airbornewolf:8/compilation-30.07-v2:5

Russians retreating forward again. 

Airbornewolf wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:Smerch isn't hyper-precise like Himars nor is it has mobile

The RF whiping out an nazi recruitment station at March 1st was reportedly done using Smerch guided munitions.

Certainly looks like an Smerch round.



Footage of this screenshot in this video around the 08:05 timestamp.

https://odysee.com/@airbornewolf:8/compilation-30.07-v2:5

Тhat was Kalibr if I am not mistaken.

The accuracy drivel is pure cringe. As if Russia has no ability to make guided rockets. Yes, really.
MLRS systems are not fancy carriers for guided missiles. They are designed to be area
obliteration weapons.

I have been listening to the same drivel from western pinheads for decades. Back before 1990
every time video of a Katyusha attack from WWII was shown, it was mandatory to bleat about
how "inaccurate" these rockets were. GTFO.