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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:31 pm

    Hinex1988 wrote:⚡Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation in Ukraine ( June 30, 2022)

    ◽On June 30, as a goodwill gesture, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation finished fulfilling the assigned tasks in Snake Island and withdrew the garrison that had been operating there.

    ◽The Russian Federation has demonstrated to the international society the absence of any obstacles for the efforts of UN to establish a humanitarian corridor for transporting agricultural products from Ukraine.......
    ........

    This is complete horseshit, what relevance does Russian retreat from that island have with transportation of agricultural goods?

    Ships won't be travelling over that island

    If they wanted to move agricultural good by sea all they had to do was to move them, status of the island is irrelevant



    Looks to me like another pathetic attempt by Russia to win PR cookie points which as everyone could have told them failed immediately:

    Russian Forces Have Been Driven From Snake Island

    https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/russian-forces-have-finally-been-driven-from-snake-island

    Following heavy Ukrainian bombardment, Russian forces have now performed a “tactical withdrawal” from the strategic outpost in the Black Sea.



    I am sure that families of all those Russian grunts who died there are super happy about their boys giving their lives for futile PR stunt


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    Post  Arkanghelsk Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:33 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:

    Ah the turks are calling the russian bluff are they, They know Russia won't directly attack them and with their ongoing war in Ukraine unlikely they can deliver the mass amount of weapons that would be needed to other group to hold te turks back.

    Turkey choose the perfect time.

    You gonna see good doner kebab
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:38 pm

    https://t.me/istorijaoruzijaZ/12543

    HEROES OF RUSSIA
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:42 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:

    Ah the turks are calling the russian bluff are they, They know Russia won't directly attack them and with their ongoing war in Ukraine unlikely they can deliver the mass amount of weapons that would be needed to other group to hold te turks back.

    Turkey choose the perfect time.

    You gonna see good doner kebab

    I doubt it, The SAA and Kurds cannot stop the Turkish Army.
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:44 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:

    I doubt it, The SAA and Kurds cannot stop the Turkish Army.

    Wait and see brother, think of gifts to kurds as a gesture of good will
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    Post  gc3762 Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:53 pm

    Orion production plant to work in three shifts


    https://lenta.ru/news/2022/06/30/orion/

    The company's Kronshtadt plant in Dubna, which produces Orion reconnaissance and attack drones, will start operating in three shifts. This was announced by Deputy General Director of the company Alexey Belykh at a meeting with employees of the Dubna Machine-Building Plant (DMZ), RIA Novosti reports.

    "The new plant for the production of unmanned aerial vehicles in order to fulfill the orders received will soon switch to a three-shift operation mode. In this regard, the company "Kronshtadt" continues to recruit staff. Applicants are offered partial compensation for rental housing, assistance with transport, work clothes and VHI policies. For young professionals and workers without experience, the company implements mentoring and training programs, " he said.

    It is noted that the Orion drones are used during a special military operation in Ukraine. The drone can carry up to 200 kilograms of combat load and stay in the air for up to 24 hours.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:54 pm

    They should have done this way sooner.

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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:57 pm

    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:Ukrainians sending freshly donated TB-2s on suicide missions all day long will eventually make the AD assets run out, to replenish them again and again eventually becomes pointless. ....

    Solution is to kill the Ukrainians operating those TB2s instead of running away with only a BS story to cover your ass



    Isos wrote:Not a goodwill gesture. Ukrainian have artillery targeting them massively from the shores. They can't hold that island anymore. ....

    Why didn’t they destroy that artillery then?

    Were they actually surprised that they got targeted?



    Mir wrote:....The Ukrs are basically a spent force despite all the promised weapons from the West. Their "best" forces are facing imminent defeat in the Donbass.

    If Russians eventually leave with their tails between their legs they won't be a spent force, they will go down in history as the greatest warriors that ever lived

    This war is Russia's to lose, Ukrainians have no input here



    caveat emptor wrote:This is a great post from Sasha Kots that paints perfect picture of fears that population has in regards to "rotten" deals or treason, if you will.
    https://t.me/sashakots/34072
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    For our family, as well as for many such grief-stricken families, the main thing now is that the death of our sons is not in vain.

    @sashakots

    This is still very much up in the air



    sepheronx wrote:...Only thing I would assume is why they went on that Island was to prevent Romania from taking it?  ...

    If Romanians try to take it then just kill the Romanians who try to take it

    Is this why Russian MoD is always screaming in panic about Poles going into Ukraine?

    Is it because for all their tough talk they are too much of a pussies to do anything about it if it happens?


    Still scared shitless of that office building in Brussels?

    Proves that no amount of nukes matters if you don't have the balls



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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:59 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:They should have done this way sooner.

    I believe I wrote something about this some 3 months ago, about Kronshtadt doing double shifts, and posting ads for additional workforce. Dubna factory wasn't entirely up and running though.

    I suppose now it is. And I take it they solved the engine issue (wasn't a biggie, just a typical unforeseen bottleneck)



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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Jul 01, 2022 12:03 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:Ukrainians sending freshly donated TB-2s on suicide missions all day long will eventually make the AD assets run out, to replenish them again and again eventually becomes pointless. ....

    Solution is to kill the Ukrainians operating those TB2s instead of running away with only a BS story to cover your ass



    Isos wrote:Not a goodwill gesture. Ukrainian have artillery targeting them massively from the shores. They can't hold that island anymore. ....

    Why didn’t they destroy that artillery then?

    Were they actually surprised that they got targeted?



    Mir wrote:....The Ukrs are basically a spent force despite all the promised weapons from the West. Their "best" forces are facing imminent defeat in the Donbass.

    If Russians eventually leave with their tails between their legs they won't be a spent force, they will go down in history as the greatest warriors that ever lived

    This war is Russia's to lose, Ukrainians have no input here



    caveat emptor wrote:This is a great post from Sasha Kots that paints perfect picture of fears that population has in regards to "rotten" deals or treason, if you will.
    https://t.me/sashakots/34072
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    For our family, as well as for many such grief-stricken families, the main thing now is that the death of our sons is not in vain.

    @sashakots

    This is still very much up in the air



    sepheronx wrote:...Only thing I would assume is why they went on that Island was to prevent Romania from taking it?  ...

    If Romanians try to take it then just kill the Romanians who try to take it

    Is this why Russian MoD is always screaming in panic about Poles going into Ukraine?

    Is it because for all their tough talk they are too much of a pussies to do anything about it if it happens?


    Still scared shitless of that office building in Brussels?

    Proves that no amount of nukes matters if you don't have the balls




    You right

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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Jul 01, 2022 12:04 am

    Arkanghelsk wrote:We are leaving Ukraine when this is finished, except LDNR

    AKA you got your asses kicked and plan on running away with your tails between your legs?



    Arkanghelsk wrote:We never had the strength to change anything in Ukraine - the population is so indoctrinated and zombified , nothing would change killing zelensky and if we occupied it, we'd only **** ourselves up

    This is desperate cope if I ever seen one

    Indoctrination is solved by removing the indoctrinated



    Arkanghelsk wrote:We could have destroyed it all and left like USA does

    You should



    Arkanghelsk wrote:But it wouldn't change a thing

    It would have, easily


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    Post  JohninMK Fri Jul 01, 2022 12:04 am

    Looks like the Ukrainians retreating, sorry repositioning, and the Russians advancing could be driving almost next to each other in fields heading the same direction Laughing Laughing


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    Post  sepheronx Fri Jul 01, 2022 12:05 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:Ukrainians sending freshly donated TB-2s on suicide missions all day long will eventually make the AD assets run out, to replenish them again and again eventually becomes pointless. ....

    Solution is to kill the Ukrainians operating those TB2s instead of running away with only a BS story to cover your ass



    Isos wrote:Not a goodwill gesture. Ukrainian have artillery targeting them massively from the shores. They can't hold that island anymore. ....

    Why didn’t they destroy that artillery then?

    Were they actually surprised that they got targeted?



    Mir wrote:....The Ukrs are basically a spent force despite all the promised weapons from the West. Their "best" forces are facing imminent defeat in the Donbass.

    If Russians eventually leave with their tails between their legs they won't be a spent force, they will go down in history as the greatest warriors that ever lived

    This war is Russia's to lose, Ukrainians have no input here



    caveat emptor wrote:This is a great post from Sasha Kots that paints perfect picture of fears that population has in regards to "rotten" deals or treason, if you will.
    https://t.me/sashakots/34072
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    For our family, as well as for many such grief-stricken families, the main thing now is that the death of our sons is not in vain.

    @sashakots

    This is still very much up in the air



    sepheronx wrote:...Only thing I would assume is why they went on that Island was to prevent Romania from taking it?  ...

    If Romanians try to take it then just kill the Romanians who try to take it

    Is this why Russian MoD is always screaming in panic about Poles going into Ukraine?

    Is it because for all their tough talk they are too much of a pussies to do anything about it if it happens?


    Still scared shitless of that office building in Brussels?

    Proves that no amount of nukes matters if you don't have the balls




    Maybe because Russians aren't suicidal and not wanting to start a greater war?

    As to why they didn't take out those batteries is because the Ukrainians are hiding the artillery in Odessa city proper, meaning once again, civilians used as shields.

    The island served its purpose. Regaining it a second time didn't make much sense but it is what it is.  Russia still winning the conflict because twitter and CNN isn't going to win the war.


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    Post  kvs Fri Jul 01, 2022 12:06 am

    The exchange of around 40 Azov POWs as part of a larger group has triggered the usual Russian chicken little hysteria.
    This is one thing that really gets under my skin. All the sanctimonious, dogmatic BS over irrelevant issues. "We were
    promised that no Azov POWs would be exchanged, how dare they go back on their word". GTFO, morons. There is
    something called pragmatism and situational flexibility. Take your zealot "purist" philosophy of life and shove it up your
    asses.

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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Jul 01, 2022 12:08 am

    ArgentinaGuard wrote:Putin, making a fool of Johnson and the British

    https://www.trtworld.com/europe/putin-reminds-johnson-of-margaret-thatcher-after-woman-remarks-58427

    Johnson is not the one who lost a warship and shitload of troops to some inbred apes over some BS island and didn't go around saying how he never rally wanted it anyway

    Win the war first before you start bragging


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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Jul 01, 2022 12:08 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Arkanghelsk wrote:We are leaving Ukraine when this is finished, except LDNR

    AKA you got your asses kicked and plan on running away with your tails between your legs?

    with putin and co. It could be so


    Arkanghelsk wrote:We never had the strength to change anything in Ukraine - the population is so indoctrinated and zombified , nothing would change killing zelensky and if we occupied it, we'd only **** ourselves up

    This is desperate cope if I ever seen one

    Indoctrination is solved by removing the indoctrinated

    dude i dont make the rules

    Arkanghelsk wrote:We could have destroyed it all and left like USA does

    You should

    i advocated razing every last hohol, and the entire forum came down on me for it

    Arkanghelsk wrote:But it wouldn't change a thing

    It would have, easily


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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Jul 01, 2022 12:09 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    ArgentinaGuard wrote:Putin, making a fool of Johnson and the British

    https://www.trtworld.com/europe/putin-reminds-johnson-of-margaret-thatcher-after-woman-remarks-58427

    Johnson is not the one who lost a warship and shitload of troops to some inbred apes over some BS island and didn't go around saying how he never rally wanted it anyway

    Win the war first before you start bragging



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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Fri Jul 01, 2022 12:10 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    I am sure that families of all those Russian grunts who died there are super happy about their boys giving their lives for futile PR stunt

    And the families of the hundreds more Ukrainian grunts who died there and thereabouts? Russian losses were minimal there, as they are elsewhere.

    Moscow was kind of dumb though, well, in retrospect, to cement its hold over that island. As I mentioned earlier, the entire thing was only to deny Zelensky's retarded leadership some propaganda stuff, but ironically all the effort it took to do so kind of made Moscow look retarded.

    Sure, they shot down another gazillion freaking useless Bayraktars, as is typical, but they just keep coming.

    It's like when the VDV was stuck on a hill in Afghanistan and U.S-supported mujahedeen were just throwing themselves at the Soviet position. At the end of the day the Soviets lost 6 men, the U.S-supported jihadis lost 200+, but eventually the Soviets had to evacuate, because the waves just kept coming and it was just a hill (hill "3234" according to Soviet war maps)...

    Same thing occured in the Caucasus a bunch of times in the 1990s and early 2000s. Incidentally, those islamist warriors were also U.S. supported, though more covertly than during the Afghan war.


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    Post  sepheronx Fri Jul 01, 2022 12:11 am

    I rather exchange those lowlife scum for my own people any day. So I don't see an issue. If someone does, it's because they don't value the life of the others like the pilots who were captured but exchanged doe the azov losers. Rather have the pilots back.

    As for the whining regarding the snake island, this is second time Russia left the island. Let us not forget the pull back in Kharkov. Now Russia is back in and Ukrainians fleeing.

    But whatever. Not like us talking about it changes anything. Some will continue to fling trash in the topic and some will cry about failures. What's still important is Russias continuous gains in Ukraine. Snake island will sit idle. If Ukraine takes it, then they will be in a world of hurt again. But doesn't seem like they are interested in taking it as they may have learned lessons from last time.

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    Post  sepheronx Fri Jul 01, 2022 12:14 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    ArgentinaGuard wrote:Putin, making a fool of Johnson and the British

    https://www.trtworld.com/europe/putin-reminds-johnson-of-margaret-thatcher-after-woman-remarks-58427

    Johnson is not the one who lost a warship and shitload of troops to some inbred apes over some BS island and didn't go around saying how he never rally wanted it anyway

    Win the war first before you start bragging



    You're right, it was thatcher who lost multiple of warships.

    For a small island(s).

    Compared to what Russia has captured now.  I rather have the donbass, Kherson, Lhugansk than Falklands.

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    Post  Belisarius Fri Jul 01, 2022 12:16 am

    ‼Russian troops destroyed a battery of howitzers in the southwest of Kharkov

    As early as June 24, the Russian military reported the destruction of a battery of M777 howitzers near the village of Oleshki, Kharkiv region.

    Today, a subscriber working at the Kharkov Transport Plant shared some interesting information with us:

    The plant received several M777 howitzers, which were badly damaged. According to the subscriber, the military at the plant said that the Russians covered them somewhere near Kharkov, and the equipment is not as pitiful as "a dozen boys who specially learned to use them at the end of last year in Germany"

    On our own behalf, we add that next to Western weapons there are usually instructors and technical personnel from NATO countries, whose fates are always hidden.
    https://t.me/TheEternalUkrainian2/10333

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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Jul 01, 2022 12:19 am

    Arkanghelsk wrote:
    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:Russia has a k/d ratio close to 1 Russian per 10 Ukrainians, and is advancing wherever she wants. ....
    More like 1 to 20
    Using 80k of VSU to 4k for Russia
    Not including militia

    Very good news if true


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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Jul 01, 2022 12:23 am

    sepheronx wrote:....You're right, it was thatcher...

    Back in the 80s

    40 years ago



    sepheronx wrote:....who lost multiple of warships...

    Thousands of miles away from UK



    sepheronx wrote:....For a small island(s)....

    For several much larger islands than Snake Island

    Which they managed to keep (after obliterating the enemies)


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    Post  caveat emptor Fri Jul 01, 2022 12:26 am

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:They should have done this way sooner.
    Factory opened only in December. It's not possible to start working in three shifts immediately. I don't think it is completely finished, as well.

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    Post  sepheronx Fri Jul 01, 2022 12:27 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:....You're right, it was thatcher...

    Back in the 80s

    40 years ago



    sepheronx wrote:....who lost multiple of warships...

    Thousands of miles away from UK



    sepheronx wrote:....For a small island(s)....

    For several much larger islands than Snake Island

    Which they managed to keep (after obliterating the enemies)



    And Russia managed to keep kherson, donbass and Lugansk.

    Sailing long distance with a massive fleet, what's the point?  They still managed to lose ships and Argentina still gave up since no one backed them. Ukraine has entire west including Japan backing them and flooding it with weapons.  Ukraine being better armed and larger than most European states.

    The war isn't over yet so you can complain about it after the fact.

    I would wager Ukraine military is far better equipped and prepared than Argentina was during the Falkland war. Also Falkland was defense against offense while Russia is on offense while Ukraine is on defense. Rather different situations.

    And that is the point too, nothing to do with conflict other than the fact UK under thatcher was unwilling to give up the islands but still decided to fight the war while Russia is also fighting a war to force either Kiev to give up or to slowly liquidate Ukraine.


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