Russian special military operation in Ukraine #12

Arkanghelsk wrote:Flaming can you explain what a SMO is ?

What has it achieved?

Don't list MOD numbers , those are irrelevant to destroy thousands of VSU nazis and equipment

When you have not done anything against the bandera idea ?

How do you fight a Bandera state with an SMO and not declaration of full war

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:

flamming_python wrote:Really no evidence for 10 Ka-52 (at most 3), or 10 Su-25 (1-2 but more could have been downed over friendly territory)

What is it, like 20 choppers tops (but 2-3 Ka-52, one Mi-28, a few Mi-8 and -24 known, only).

Same with planes. One widely publicized Su-35S, one Su-30SM, two Su-34s, two Su-25s (and one that made it back even after a direct hit). No others I am aware of.

Incomparable with UA losses, which are in the hundreds..

flamming_python wrote:

Some choppers and aircraft were taken out on the ground too

There was a strike early in the war against an airfield in the Belgorod region. Potentially some aircraft and helicopters taken out, there was a photo, showed some damage

flamming_python wrote:
There was a strike against Kherson airbase that took out 3 choppers and damaged some others

But considering the fact how many modern Manpads ended up in Ukraine recently, we can say that Russian helicopters are doing unbelievably good.

For now, though, his Metinvest company, Ukraine's biggest steelmaker, has announced it cannot deliver its supply contracts and while his financial and industrial SCM Group is servicing its debt obligations, his private power producer DTEK "has optimised payment of its debts" in an agreement with creditors.

Eugenio Argentina wrote:Regarding the images that circulate of Tu-160 refueling with a tanker plane, I think it will be a rehearsal for the next parade.
I don't see that planes need to be refueled, being so close to Ukraine.

PapaDragon wrote:

Eugenio Argentina wrote:Regarding the images that circulate of Tu-160 refueling with a tanker plane, I think it will be a rehearsal for the next parade.
I don't see that planes need to be refueled, being so close to Ukraine.

Holding any kind of parade while this deep in the shit will be travesty of epic proportions

Your troops in the field are undermanned and lacking air cover while you have soldiers and aircraft wasting time parading thousand miles away from the frontlines?

If they actually go through with it it would be the final nail in credibility of Russian conventional deterrent

I really hope they are not that dumb and delusional

PapaDragon wrote:

Eugenio Argentina wrote:Regarding the images that circulate of Tu-160 refueling with a tanker plane, I think it will be a rehearsal for the next parade.
I don't see that planes need to be refueled, being so close to Ukraine.

Holding any kind of parade while this deep in the shit will be travesty of epic proportions

Your troops in the field are undermanned and lacking air cover while you have soldiers and aircraft wasting time parading thousand miles away from the frontlines?

If they actually go through with it it would be the final nail in credibility of Russian conventional deterrent

I really hope they are not that dumb and delusional

Arkanghelsk wrote:No parade, imbeciles are in over their head

For what? It's arrogance and incompetence of highest level

A tu160 flying close to the border, what if Ukr su27 or mig 29 pops up and shoots r27?

This nightmare can happen after moskva anything can happen

One cannot trust the idiots at Kremlin

flamming_python wrote:

ATLASCUB wrote:

Big_Gazza wrote:Mandatory viewing for anyone who wants to understand the Russia-Ukraine conflict - its origins, the strategic military situation, and the impact on the global financial-economic sphere.

Goddamn but I respect Scott Ritter.  If only Murkan "elites" had the intelligence and honesty of this guy.

Don't be delusional.

The desperation is so high, so palpable, people will seek appeal to authority validation from "ex" American spooks "fallen from grace" (apparently of course - you never quite leave the agency), german, british, brazilians....floridian grifters.... Anybody, anyone that can sell that sweet lie, sweetly wrapped that says "everything is going to be ok", "everything is going according to plan", "there is no reason to worry or panic", "the West are idiots", "the Russians are so smart" etc etc..... Otherwise how could you face the crises, the tension, how could possible sleep peacefully. We all know above all of it, it's just a big massive front to hide the real insecurity and fear cursing through the brain.

It's those people, far far away from Russia's political and military apparatus that know best. Kinda funny contrasting the divide for say a guy like Strelkov... a "6th columnist", a butthurt washed up has been... all for going directly for the Kremlin jugular.

It seems all of this has one common dominator..... for as long as the Kremlin is praised, and damaged control for, or "criticized" with soft gloves boxed in a small confine of limits to create cred validation you're ok for the hive mind. Step outside that confine and well, you'll be an outcast real quick. Not only of the Russian establishment and its propaganda apparatus which is quick to protect itself but also of the sheeple hooked to that drug. A massive circular ego stoking exercise.

I wouldn't be fucking surprised if half of them are western assets, half russian..... so easy to play the act and so easy to dupe the sheeple it's a fucking no brainer. You get "street cred" quick. And seeing how manyturncoats are in the halls of power in Russia, it's frankly a big fat joke.

Also funny is the often seen propaganda lines saying western elites are dumber or stupider than this or that nobody. Really? Who's on the back foot facing a crisis? That's when you know that brain isn't worth half of a broken nut.

Fact is both NATO's and Russia's warplans have not gone according to plan, and both of them are suffering higher losses than they anticipated, while trying to adapt to each other's tactics constantly and outsmart the other.

But the war is going Russia's way simply by virtue of attrition. Russia was suffering considerable losses in its initial high-tempo advance so its switched tactics.
The Ukrainians have suffered huge losses, and all the NATO mercs aren't doing much better - as Russia has plenty of artillery, air power and precision weapon superiority in the Ukraine.

Here you can see a post from an American merc. He mentions his squad being formed of Brazilians, Brits, Japanese, Uighurs, Germans, Poles, Taiwanese, Americans, Tajiks, etc..
But that due to not being equipped and trained properly, he and others quit before the fighting even began

It's probably this Ukrainian 'foreign legion' outfit where they just recruit foreigners as cannon fodder, and sprinkle them in with some Islamists from Muslim countries it looks like

But there are mercs in more serious units I'm sure.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin/42676

The entire urban area of ​​MARIUPOL is completely cleared of the militants of the Nazi formation "Azov", foreign mercenaries and Ukrainian troops.

The remnants of the Ukrainian group are currently completely blocked on the territory of the Azovstal metallurgical plant. Their only chance to save their lives is to voluntarily lay down their arms and surrender.

Let me remind you that in Mariupol at the time of its encirclement on March 11 there were: the 36th separate brigade of the marines, the 109th brigade of territorial defense, the 503rd separate battalion of the marines, a company of the 53rd separate mechanized brigade, units of the 17th anti-tank brigade , Nazi formations "Azov", "Aidar", "Right Sector", units of the police and state border services, as well as foreign mercenaries.
The total number of this group was about 8 thousand 100 people.

During the liberation of Mariupol, 1,464 Ukrainian servicemen have already surrendered. The number of surrenderers is increasing daily. Including those who escaped from the territory of Azovstal.

According to their testimonies, the total number of Ukrainian servicemen, Nazis and foreign mercenaries who took refuge on Azovstal does not exceed 2.5 thousand people.

Thus, on April 16, only in MARIUPOL, the losses of the Ukrainian group amounted to more than 4,000 people.

Today, irretrievable losses amount to 23,367 people.
Some data from Ukrainian documents about their losses, revealing the place of death and the place of burial of the dead, we will soon publish.

flamming_python wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:No parade, imbeciles are in over their head

For what? It's arrogance and incompetence of highest level

A tu160 flying close to the border, what if Ukr su27 or mig 29 pops up and shoots r27?

This nightmare can happen after moskva anything can happen

One cannot trust the idiots at Kremlin

One has to. There isn't a set of alternate leaders. But during war incompetents are replaced and talent tends to fill the ranks over time.

And a Tu-160 is useless if you don't use it.

Relax, more are getting ready to be built regardless

PapaDragon wrote:

Eugenio Argentina wrote:Regarding the images that circulate of Tu-160 refueling with a tanker plane, I think it will be a rehearsal for the next parade.
I don't see that planes need to be refueled, being so close to Ukraine.

Holding any kind of parade while this deep in the shit will be travesty of epic proportions

Your troops in the field are undermanned and lacking air cover while you have soldiers and aircraft wasting time parading thousand miles away from the frontlines?

If they actually go through with it it would be the final nail in credibility of Russian conventional deterrent

I really hope they are not that dumb and delusional