Russian special military operation in Ukraine #6

Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:Ex Swiss intelligence services gives an assessment.
Rarely in the west.

What is the action of Russians?
That's completely different. You have clearly announced your goal. You want to "demilitarize" and "denazification". If you are honestly tracking the reporting, it's just what you do. Of course, a war is a war, and unfortunately there are always dead, but it's interesting to see what the numbers say. On Friday (4.3.) The UN moved a balance. She reported by 265 killed Ukrainian civilians. In the evening, the Russian Ministry of Defense has given the number of dead soldiers with 498. That means there are more victims at the Russian military than under the civilians on the Ukrainian side. If one compares that with Irak or Libya now, then the western warfare is exactly the other way around.

Full: https://zeitgeschehen-im-fokus.ch/de/newspaper-ausgabe/nr-4-vom-15-maerz-2022.html#article_1306

Vann7 wrote:,but instead stealth f-35
that will not be seen as 150km at all , but more like 50km with luck.

Erk wrote:

Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:Ex Swiss intelligence services gives an assessment.
Rarely in the west.

What is the action of Russians?
That's completely different. You have clearly announced your goal. You want to "demilitarize" and "denazification". If you are honestly tracking the reporting, it's just what you do. Of course, a war is a war, and unfortunately there are always dead, but it's interesting to see what the numbers say. On Friday (4.3.) The UN moved a balance. She reported by 265 killed Ukrainian civilians. In the evening, the Russian Ministry of Defense has given the number of dead soldiers with 498. That means there are more victims at the Russian military than under the civilians on the Ukrainian side. If one compares that with Irak or Libya now, then the western warfare is exactly the other way around.

Full: https://zeitgeschehen-im-fokus.ch/de/newspaper-ausgabe/nr-4-vom-15-maerz-2022.html#article_1306

The are skipping a tiny fact. Over 15,000 have died in this war since 2014 and 80% were on the DPR side mostly civilians.

Isn't it funny how so many people think the war started on Feb 24 2022 not Feb 24 2014.

Arkanghelsk wrote:Who cares about this nonsense

The only thing which matters is the situation on the ground

Approach to Vyshev continues apace with chechen forces massing for the push to Vasilkov

Simultaneously units advance towards Gogolev

In the east Russians already are cutting around Slavyansk and approaching the city, big strikes occur in the east

Simulatenously in the south units advance from volnovakha towards Kurakhovo

In Nikolaev, the massing of forces continues and reserves are in place for an assault on the city

flamming_python wrote:
No the situation on the ground is not what matters, the Ukraine at this point is an extension of NATO and the West, and they will not surrender under any circumstances and neither will their population. As their weapons are more the cameras and the narrative, which can't be countered

The only way the Ukraine can lose is if the West or at least EU collapses; but they're in full war propaganda mode and giving the Ukraine every type of aid and Russia every type of sanction short of military action.

What Russia needs to do now, our leadership, is realize they seriously fucked up and chill on the ultimatums and conditions, then move back to where they have local support, which is the LNR and DNR. Because staying in the rest of the Ukraine will not achieve anything politically, it will just keep adding to more bloodshed.
Then our leadership should resign subjected to charges, with a new interim government put in place.

Big_Gazza wrote:

flamming_python wrote:
No the situation on the ground is not what matters, the Ukraine at this point is an extension of NATO and the West, and they will not surrender under any circumstances and neither will their population. As their weapons are more the cameras and the narrative, which can't be countered

The only way the Ukraine can lose is if the West or at least EU collapses; but they're in full war propaganda mode and giving the Ukraine every type of aid and Russia every type of sanction short of military action.

What Russia needs to do now, our leadership, is realize they seriously fucked up and chill on the ultimatums and conditions, then move back to where they have local support, which is the LNR and DNR. Because staying in the rest of the Ukraine will not achieve anything politically, it will just keep adding to more bloodshed.
Then our leadership should resign subjected to charges, with a new interim government put in place.

Disgusting little commie 5th column quisling...  carrying water for Russias enemies while pretending to be concerned about the fate of Ukrainian civilians, and now openly admitting he is a regime-change advocate.

If I was a Mod i'd give you a lifetime ban. What a prick.

Arkanghelsk wrote:That's what's fucking up the thread JohninMK, troll shitposters like flaming python

Then I have to go back and set the record straight

Flaming the era of Gorbachev capitulation ended my friend, you and your band are not in charge of anything

Nor are you entitled to an opinion given that it was your kind that created this massively unfavorable situation for Russian national security

It was your ilk and kind which brought NATO to the border

So quiet yourself, and go back to the fetal position you were in since 1991

Let professionals work

Arkanghelsk wrote:

flamming_python wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:That's what's fucking up the thread JohninMK, troll shitposters like flaming python

Then I have to go back and set the record straight

Flaming the era of Gorbachev capitulation ended my friend, you and your band are not in charge of anything

Nor are you entitled to an opinion given that it was your kind that created this massively unfavorable situation for Russian national security

It was your ilk and kind which brought NATO to the border

So quiet yourself, and go back to the fetal position you were in since 1991

Let professionals work

The only thing I see is industrial-scale killing and the ruining of millions of lives. Over a thousand Ukrainian military dead a day. Can you imagine all the families now left without a breadwinner.

I would like to see you in the position of an ordinary person in the Ukraine. Not a Banderite, not employed by the regime, not even a serviceman, but just an ordinary person.

This criminal stupidity has to stop. What the hell conditions can Russia enforce on the Ukraine with such a strategy. They've given the regime there all they could possibly want. Russians and Ukrainians will be like Serbians and Croatians for a long time now.

Good, they deserve it, difference between Serbia and Russia is that Russia stuck their boot in Ukraines ass and took the krajina and the whole pie to boot!

flamming_python wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:That's what's fucking up the thread JohninMK, troll shitposters like flaming python

Then I have to go back and set the record straight

Flaming the era of Gorbachev capitulation ended my friend, you and your band are not in charge of anything

Nor are you entitled to an opinion given that it was your kind that created this massively unfavorable situation for Russian national security

It was your ilk and kind which brought NATO to the border

So quiet yourself, and go back to the fetal position you were in since 1991

Let professionals work

The only thing I see is industrial-scale killing and the ruining of millions of lives. Over a thousand Ukrainian military dead a day. Can you imagine all the families now left without a breadwinner.

I would like to see you in the position of an ordinary person in the Ukraine. Not a Banderite, not employed by the regime, not even a serviceman, but just an ordinary person.

This criminal stupidity has to stop. What the hell conditions can Russia enforce on the Ukraine with such a strategy. They've given the regime there all they could possibly want. Russians and Ukrainians will be like Serbians and Croatians for a long time now.

Arkanghelsk wrote:Mike your arguing with a fucking pickle

He called me a nazi

He wants to ceasefire to the murderers and genocidal freaks of Kiev

And depose the nazis in Moscow

Better dead than fucking red thats for sure !

Anyway this clown is on the ignore list, it's no different than talking to a navalnyist or some kind of vennediktov

miketheterrible wrote:
Blame yourself and your commie fags who allowed this to happen.  It wasn't Russia who created Ukraine, it wasn't Russia that armed and trained Nazis and it wasn't Russia that was to prevent the nazis doing what they want.  This was the end result.

Why not accept the fact that Russia is cleaning up the mess left over by the politbureau back in the day that resulted to the monstrosity of Ukraine after 1991?

Why not accept the fact that this war became inevitable?

Would you rather Russia take the fight to Ukraine to remove these assholes or would you rather wait till they have done something to Russia? We already learned they were building a nuke. We already learned they planned to attack. We learned a lot of the horror they were going to commit, not accounting what they already did.

Let me ask you, do you seriously give more of a shit about them or your own?  Because I think the type of stupidity you say, you would have blamed putin either way - "Why didn't we do something to stop them before they attacked us and killed thousands of our people?" Vs "why are we hurting them and stopping them?"

Seriously.

flamming_python wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:
Blame yourself and your commie fags who allowed this to happen.  It wasn't Russia who created Ukraine, it wasn't Russia that armed and trained Nazis and it wasn't Russia that was to prevent the nazis doing what they want.  This was the end result.

Why not accept the fact that Russia is cleaning up the mess left over by the politbureau back in the day that resulted to the monstrosity of Ukraine after 1991?

Why not accept the fact that this war became inevitable?

Would you rather Russia take the fight to Ukraine to remove these assholes or would you rather wait till they have done something to Russia? We already learned they were building a nuke. We already learned they planned to attack. We learned a lot of the horror they were going to commit, not accounting what they already did.

Let me ask you, do you seriously give more of a shit about them or your own?  Because I think the type of stupidity you say, you would have blamed putin either way - "Why didn't we do something to stop them before they attacked us and killed thousands of our people?" Vs "why are we hurting them and stopping them?"

Seriously.

What have we learned and who told you?

Regardless of whatever, they weren't the ones who broke the Minsk agreements, built a dirty bomb, or anything of the sort. This all has to be proven.

Arkanghelsk wrote:I posted this earlier, about Glazyev JohninMk got pissed since its OT

Personally even though it's not Ukraine war related, it is related to the NATO Russia confrontation which is going on and might be the bigger picture of this Operation Z

Glazyev and other modern postSoviet Economic Theorists are developing a new system at the supranational global governance level

Russia is reviving as the EAEU

Russian aviation destroyed 86 objects of Ukrainian troops

MOSCOW, March 14 - RIA Novosti. The Russian Aerospace Forces hit 86 objects of Ukrainian troops in a day, Major General Igor Konashenkov, spokesman for the Russian Defense Ministry, said on Monday.
"Operational-tactical, army and unmanned aircraft hit 86 objects of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, including: four command and control centers and communication centers, three anti-aircraft missile systems, one radar station, one electronic warfare station, three ammunition depots and fuel and lubricants, 68 places of accumulation of military equipment" - said Konashenkov