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    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #6

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    Post  miketheterrible Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:53 pm

    ALAMO wrote:Let me summarize the things from the EU MSM.

    Russia lost.
    Putin is dying.
    Shoigu is his last pale, but there are a tons of Brute sided by.
    Half of FSB/GRU main staff is dead/jailed/custodiezed/home arrested. You can vote.
    Half of general staff is dead. Generals are dying like sheep in slaughterhouse. Assisted by the colonels. No marshalls. Yet!
    Putin is dying, still there is a Hague tribunal ahead of him.
    Everybody who dares to speak his position, that is not-so-B&W, is "idiot", "Putins agent", "Olgino troll".
    Last spotted "idiot" is Coehlo. The writer, you know.
    Russian shoot a friendly&peacefull  NATO owned curort in Yavorovo to make a political message. Some security guards died there, among with brave guard dogs. Maybe some few military. More than few. Well, some of ... No foreign mercs there, never, ever, STFU.
    Russian generals stole the most of modernization directed cash. Half a trillion $. But that is for now only, thet will steal a whole trillion by tomorrow latest.
    Doneck Tochka?
    Non existing.
    Evil Russkies shooted at Kiev city, there is a CCTV proving that, bad, bad Putin, you will die in Hague, considering that you are dying at the very moment. Death is imminent, anyway.
    Even more evil Russkies are closing the evacuation corridors, shoot at the refugees, and even if there was a Tochka on Donetsk - Ruskies shoot it.
    Day as usual, nothing fancy. Carry on.



    While I know you are joking, and I love it, there are members here who believe it. And many people in the west.

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:56 pm

    I know bud, I know.
    The hysteria in MSM is leveled so high, that people are losing common sense.
    It is late April 1945, Berlin Mitte as I have said.

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    Post  Azi Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:57 pm

    US and western deep states are utilizing western media to spread panic among russians. Fake news isn't just for Western audiences it's also for 5. column in Russia...the brain washed  idiots consuming western media shit and lies.

    As I wrote ... the whole conflict is not about Ukraine, but about Russia! Regime change in Moscow is the ultimate goal of the United States.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:00 am

    Vann, you are very poorly informed, Tb2 and drones in general did not affect the casualties in this war in any big way

    Again only 1% of losses can be attributed to drone strikes and that goes for both sides

    MOD and general staff are much better informed then the opinion of some random on internet that knows nothing about modern combat

    Again Russia fights high intensity conflict against an opponent with the strength of France or Poland

    They have full NATO support, and huge manpower

    As well as lots of material and equipment

    Learn first, about operational strategic battle concepts

    Then tactical, noone in their right mind would ever employ drones at the level you are talking about because it would not change anything on the ground

    To regain tempo in the offense, Mariupol and Kharkov must be sanitized

    Drones Play a role but more important are special forces and urban tactics to destroy the resistance and force them into submission

    As was done in Palmyra, Douma, Damascus and now in Ukraine

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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:02 am

    Azi wrote:US and western deep states are utilizing western media to spread panic among russians. Fake news isn't just for Western audiences it's also for 5. column in Russia...the brain washed  idiots consuming western media shit and lies.

    As I wrote ... the whole conflict is not about Ukraine, but about Russia! Regime change in Moscow is the ultimate goal of the United States.

    Kinda hard when:

    Most Russians still dont speak English
    Most Russians dont have access to western media now since most of it has been banned
    Most Russians are actually educated.

    The 5th column has lost the plot and no longer have the same support they once had.

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    Post  Lurk83 Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:03 am

    Ispan wrote:very complete briefing today, covers everything from the Donetsk missile massacre to the up to the last minute developments

    https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2022/03/14/parte-de-guerra-14-03-2022/

    Seems like the op has ground to a halt everywhere

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:04 am

    ... forgot to add, that Russkies already eating the tie. Last strategic reserves are put on th table, it is enough to make a final punch.

    Still wonder why we have not conquered the Kaliningrad yet, as it must be left undefended, considering that Russian military is involved at 100% if we read the US materials scratch

    I know.

    I must start the invasion all by myself.
    My fuel tank will be the very first troop on the ground there. I will fill it up to the limit, to show Russkies the supremacy there attack thumbsup

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    Post  lancelot Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:09 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:BS.  China simply isn't going to back off on its support of Russia.
    Ignore that they have a strategic partnership and boil it down to the absolute basics - When its Chinas turn to get stuck in (and take down the secessionists in Taiwan) they want Russia in their corner.
    Murkan deep staters are idiots if they can't understand this, but they are desperate to save their pet Ukro regime and the stress is making them sloppy and causing forced errors.

    The Chinese had their own Chechnya in Xinjiang. A lot of their current leadership was actually involved in the previous suppression of dissent in Tibet.
    The Chinese know quite well who funded the insurgents in Xinjiang.
    The US then added insult to injury by trying to make a color revolution in Hong Kong just recently.

    If people think they will just ignore all these threats to their nationhood with some kind of withdrawl of sanctions which the next US President or US Congress can take away just as easily they have another thing coming.

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    Post  Isos Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:10 am

    You forgot the coup by Shoigu that ended up by its arrestation last week. It happened, US told so two weeks ago.

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:11 am

    Isos wrote:You forgot the coup by Shoigu that ended up by its arrestation last week. It happened, US told so two weeks ago.

    He couped twice already.
    Quite impressive, considering the age.

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    Post  Scorpius Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:12 am

    Lurk83 wrote:
    Ispan wrote:very complete briefing today, covers everything from the Donetsk missile massacre to the up to the last minute developments

    https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2022/03/14/parte-de-guerra-14-03-2022/

    Seems like the op has ground to a halt everywhere
    Right now, some legitimate military targets in Ukraine are being sent straight to Bandera with the help of missiles and combat aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces. Is this called "operation stopped"? Lmao
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    Post  d_taddei2 Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:12 am

    Point 11) as others have stated a complete joke. Russia has enough armoured vehicles and logistics trucks to fill Ukraine landmass. The person who made this pile of cat crap must be on the same drugs as zelensky.

    Updates

    1) Putin Briefed Luxembourg Prime Minister on Situation With Russia's Special Op in Ukraine - Kremlin

    2) Zelensky Submitted to Rada Bill to Extend Martial Law in Ukraine for 30 Days - Reports

    3) NASA: Nothing Has Changed in Terms of US-Russia ISS Cooperation, No Indication Russia Wants to Do Anything Different, Cooperation to Continue

    4) US Tells Allies China Signalled Willingness to Provide Military Aid to Russia, Report Says. US Watching 'Very Closely' for Chinese Support to Russia Amid Ukraine Op, State Department Says

    5) Russian Military Takes Out 145 Ukrainian Drones, 1,298 Tanks and Other Armored Vehicles, 124 Multiple Launch Rocket Systems - MoD

    6) Russian Defense Ministry Says Arms Depot Destroyed at Antonov Plant in Ukraine

    7) Russia Envoy Tells UN: Moscow Registers Cases of Kiev Using Phosphorus & Cluster Bombs

    8 ) Donetsk Militia Claims To Have Seized Laptop Containing Data With Ukrainian Military’s Targets

    9) DPR: Chemical Catastrophe Likely If Incident at Avdeevka Сoke and Chemical Plant is Not Fixed. ***********

    10) Russian MoD: Key Neo-Nazi Forces in Mariupol Residential Areas Destroyed cheers

    11) US told allies that Russia requested 5 types of military gear from China, including Surface To Air Missiles. Also drones, armored vehicles, logistics vehicles & intelligence-related equipment. US did not provide underlying intelligence in cables to allies lol! lol!

    12) World Bank: Sanctions on Russia hurt the global economy more than the war in Ukraine

    13) Big Russian military convoy entered Kupyansk, Kharkiv region. Including supply trucks, tankers and self-propelled artillery

    14) U.S. has seen new Russian effort to block off any Ukrainian retreat from Donbass region, advancing 50 to 60 vehicles that are bypassing Kharkiv in an effort to cut off the area: senior U.S. defense official

    15) Russian military column entered Lazurne village in Kherson region

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:21 am

    Who cares about this nonsense

    The only thing which matters is the situation on the ground

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    Approach to Vyshev continues apace with chechen forces massing for the push to Vasilkov

    Simultaneously units advance towards Gogolev

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    In the east Russians already are cutting around Slavyansk and approaching the city, big strikes occur in the east

    Simulatenously in the south units advance from volnovakha towards Kurakhovo

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    In Nikolaev, the massing of forces continues and reserves are in place for an assault on the city

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:31 am

    RTN wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:
    Yes, please. So Russia can bomb them too
    And why doesn't Russia call you back you son of a bitch? Coz they know you are just that a little, lying piece of shit.

    yes, so you are then next door hero going to safari on Russians? your visit must be calibrated then lol1 lol1 lol1
    Unfair fight? do Americans know any other type?

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:35 am

    Isos wrote:You forgot the coup by Shoigu that ended up by its arrestation last week. It happened, US told so two weeks ago.

    it's like with economy Psaki said in 2014 that Russian economy died and now again.  Looks Like every 8 years Russia ceases to exist then wins the next war, again
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    Post  Vann7 Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:37 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    Arkanghelsk wrote:You compare apples to oranges and look like an idiot doing it.
    Been had RipVannWinkle7 on ignore for the past 7-8 years for a good reason, and never looked back! Razz

    Are you the same fool that said western vaccines are safe? lol1

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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:41 am

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    RTN wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:
    Yes, please. So Russia can bomb them too
    And why doesn't Russia call you back you son of a bitch? Coz they know you are just that a little, lying piece of shit.

    yes, so you are then next door hero going to safari on Russians? your visit must be calibrated then lol1 lol1 lol1
    Unfair fight? do Americans know any other type?

    I like how he tries to say I lie.  Pot, meet kettle.

    I am surprised the dope hasn't been banned yet.

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    Post  LMFS Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:43 am

    Is it finally here?

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:48 am

    I posted this earlier, about Glazyev JohninMk got pissed since its OT

    Personally even though it's not Ukraine war related, it is related to the NATO Russia confrontation which is going on and might be the bigger picture of this Operation Z

    Glazyev and other modern postSoviet Economic Theorists are developing a new system at the supranational global governance level

    Russia is reviving as the EAEU

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    Post  ucmvulcan Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:52 am

    miketheterrible wrote:

    That is the thing - this is just constant bullshit after bullshit of news.  America has claimed: Russias economy is in tatters and is already destroyed.  That turned out to be false.  Russian made weapons are not working (seems their AD is working far better than wests (as proof by the drone incident) and their missiles hit right on target right near the Polish border at the surprise of the west). Claimed the world sanctioned them (when it is only 11% of the world sanctioned them and the rest are still more than willing to import and export to/from russia).  Claimed Russian soldiers are demoralized and losing in Ukraine (Massive lie when Russian forces were smaller than Ukraines and still managed to encircle Ukraines biggest cities and forces and gained 40% of the country with such a small force). Claimed Putin is losing support (when in reality, his support has grown during this conflict from low 60% to now over 70%).

    They have not been right about a single thing.  And the reason for it is to create a narrative and try to spread it.  They also believe that the other countries actually take it at face value and use it to try and force China to do stuff.  Its funny because China denied the claims from the US and so did Russia yet they go and demand from China not to do it.  Why? Because the US will use it as an attempt to say "see, look, we forced China's arm.  They didn't sell weapons to the Russians because we told them not to!".

    So you mean that the "heroic defenders of Ukrainian democracy" haven't taken Petersburg and the glorious democratic forces of Ukraine aren't surrounding the Kremlin? But CNN said. . . . scratch lol!

    Yes, the propaganda war in the USA is absolutely absurd.

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    Post  ucmvulcan Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:56 am

    ALAMO wrote:
    Isos wrote:You forgot the coup by Shoigu that ended up by its arrestation last week. It happened, US told so two weeks ago.

    He couped twice already.
    Quite impressive, considering the age.

    And that was just before Breakfast, he launched two more for lunch, and then had a sensible dinner with a side of coup

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:06 am

    Ex Swiss intelligence services gives an assessment.
    Rarely in the west.

    What is the action of Russians?
    That's completely different. You have clearly announced your goal. You want to "demilitarize" and "denazification". If you are honestly tracking the reporting, it's just what you do. Of course, a war is a war, and unfortunately there are always dead, but it's interesting to see what the numbers say. On Friday (4.3.) The UN moved a balance. She reported by 265 killed Ukrainian civilians. In the evening, the Russian Ministry of Defense has given the number of dead soldiers with 498. That means there are more victims at the Russian military than under the civilians on the Ukrainian side. If one compares that with Irak or Libya now, then the western warfare is exactly the other way around.

    Full: https://zeitgeschehen-im-fokus.ch/de/newspaper-ausgabe/nr-4-vom-15-maerz-2022.html#article_1306

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    Post  d_taddei2 Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:12 am

    For those bitching about Tochka not being taken down and how Russian systems are rubbish. Take a step back and look at the bigger picture. This ain't a crappy system they are up against. Despite being designed in the early 1970's the system is still very deadly. Flying at 1,800km/s (Mach 5.3) is fast and depending on the range fired from to target doesn't give massive amounts of time for a system to locate, fire, and anti air missile to reach target and intercept. I don't recall USA patriot systems being very good at taking out missiles. How many times has patriots failed????? Hell they even failed to take down an Iraqi Frog-7(Luna-m) which was designed early 1960's and max speed of Mach 3. AD systems do not have 100% success rates this ain't some PC game. It would be interesting to find out what took the Tochka down it did its job sadly where it came down wasn't ideal but far better than it's intended target. And remember Russia hasn't deployed it's fully layered AD network within Eastern Ukraine. And at least Russia has access to a proper layered AD systems unlike NATO forces.

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    Post  kvs Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:15 am

    The Tochka-U fired at Donetsk City had a cassette warhead. Taking out a missile does not mean that all of the fragments
    lose their momentum. The are still going to hit the general destination area of the ballistic missile with enough speed to mutilate
    and kill people. ABM systems are not sci-fi devices.

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:18 am

    Vann7 wrote:
    Arkanghelsk wrote:Azerbaijan war in NGK is incomparable to Operation Z

    Anyone with a brain sees that, some propaganda victories of TB2 and Harop against a militia is not comparable to VSU and its 400,000 plus sized army with thousands of anti aircraft vehicles and sites

    VKS already eliminated the bulk of long range AD so I don't know why you mention s300, those did not work since day 1

    Azerbaijan could not capture NGK, while Russian offensive controls 40% of Ukrainian territory

    You compare apples to oranges and look like an idiot doing it


    watch  

    how Russian best air defenses (Tor M2KM) destroyed.. in armenian conflict.




    you can even see the russian soldiers trying to escape and killed.

    is this is the way Putin plans , to make NATO fear russian military?   No
    so russia is respected?


    This is not "Trivial"  , this is very bad , that a major power like russia can be humiliated so easily
    by not having proper air defenses for their military .russia can't replace a destroyed TOR or pantsir

    And This is a third world country , with just one drone can destroy 4x tor defenses..
    if russia was facing NATO , their army will have been desroyed , by a very agressive air support
    for nato troops.

    is all about of saturating them..   Tor have 4 missiles.. then if you throw 4 + 1 , the last one will
    pass and destroy it..  this drones flight higher than the range of anti air artillery. so only can be shot
    with missiles.  

       
    if Russia was invading a Poland country ,  the russian army will have been destroyed easily by them ,
    if nato fully supply poland with enough drones , to destroy those columns of armor.
    Russia tactics are outdated.. and the armenian conflict and now ukrainian one confirm it.
    just because a third world nation ukraine with a small demoralized army   is losing to russia ,does not means the Russian army performance is good.. because it is not. Russia is not yet tested against real well armed enemies with strong air support of their combat troops and strong tactics.

    the only thing , that russia have ,as deterrence is their nuclear weapons , because
    russian air defenses are not good enough .  the best defense is offense and neither here russia
    impress me, 2 weeks with a big front line of ukies ,and russia can't defeat them even when it have
    air superiority.. actually russia is losing  too many aircraft to man pads.. this is not good , nothing to brag about..   All those artillery duels exercises that russia army does all the time ,are not based on reality ,that you can't deploy artillery in an airspace that is heavily guarded by air support of the enemy.

    What a stupid peson are you? The part is not active! It was turned off and then driven into a garage. There you can park a star fortream in it. When all the lamps offline then then Kill. .

    Listen no bullshit.

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