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    Post  flamming_python Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:39 pm

    bitcointrader70 wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Prof. Michael Tanchum
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    #EU will provide #Ukraine with Russian-made fighter jets from  #Bulgaria, #Slovakia and #Poland, for immediate use by Ukrainian pilots, according to reports

    If true, that could amount toabout 55 MiG-29s

    (via @michaelbirnbaum)

    If true a complete disaster. But not unexpected. Russia has never fought a country with potent fighters and air defense systems before. Old buk and s300 are good systems.

    Russia can establish airspace superiority momentarily and hit all those fighters on the ground.

    It just hasn't. What the cunning plan is, I don't know. Maybe they hoped to turn Ukrainian forces to their side. But anyone on this forum could have told them it won't happen.


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    Post  miketheterrible Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:42 pm

    It's because those jets aren't flying.

    You see, they don't have pilots. And nowhere to really launch from. Enough time, they will attempt to fly some of these, russias will get the idea where they fly from, and bomb the base.

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    Post  Isos Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:43 pm

    I haven't looked at french news since the start. Today I turned it on and our politics are already hesitating about the sanctions and trying to find a way to normalize the situation.

    When asked about the membership of Ukraine in EU some officials in Bruxelles didn't even said it was a possibility when asked. They didn't answer the question.

    Germany will face the gas crisis.

    A part of MSM in west no one cares about ukrainians.

    3 rd world like they call it, have seen how racist ukrimainians are and don't give a shit about them and even support their killing.

    UAE and the rest of oil arab states didn't even condemn russian invasion.

    US officials aren't even talking about it directly.

    In 1 week no one will care about and they will settle it with a peace agreement and no nato membership and zelensky will end up like Sakaschvili and that dickhead in Armenia.

    France and Germany will be pissed off. Germany because of gas and France because it has 500 companies operating in Russia that will be sanctionned (Renault sell as much in Russia as in France around 500k cars, now it will be 0) and they will quickly remove those US pawbs in Bruxelles.

    So get realistic a little.

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    Post  rigoletto Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:44 pm

    Zelenskiy just signed the request to accession to the European Union.

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    Post  zorobabel Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:45 pm

    FIFA/UEFA suspend all Russian clubs and national teams from all competitions
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    Post  Airbornewolf Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:45 pm

    New uploads of Telegram of today put to the drive:

    https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1dYyKpAdq_C4YopTL7js6FafJ6c3Aqnqi?usp=sharing

    files are:

    Bagdad's bob, Kiev edition kill count 28th february
    ballistic launch from Belarus  1 of 2 28th february
    cant get this soldier angry.... 28th february
    Equipment of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation entered the city of Trostyanets, Sumy region. 28th february
    ERA blocked anti-tank hit DPR. 28th February
    ballistic launch from Belarus  1 of 2 28th february
    ka-52 vks over Kiev region 28th february
    Kamov's on the attack, location unknown 28th february
    Mariupol. Ukrainian technology may be trying to leave the city. 28th february
    ukrainians shelling kharkov, 28th february.
    Maximum Propaganda, Ghost of Kiev that only excists in the videogame DCS. 28th February.
    Mi-28 VKS of Russia in the sky of the LPR 28th february
    locals from Kherson record the entrance of Lynx armored vehicles into the city. 28th february
    Russia sets fire to  the American base in Ochakovo. 28th february
    Russian Artillery counter-fire on ukrainian artillery unit that shelled village. 28th february
    Russian infantry units on the BMP-2 in the village. Borodianka in the Kiev region. (northwest of Kyiv). 28th february
    Russian Su-34 bombers began to operate in the Kharkiv region. 28th february
    ukraine shelling of Kharkov, 28th february
    soldiers interacting with angry civilian. unknown location. 28th february
    Stuck in a field and abandoned Russian ZRPK Pantsir-S1 near Kherson. 28th february
    Su-34 in the sky over the Kharkov region. 28th february
    The offensive is supported by Ka-52 helicopters of the Russian Aerospace Forces. 2 28th february
    The offensive of the DPR army on Mariupol and Volnovakha. 2 of 2 28th february
    The offensive of the DPR army on Mariupol and Volnovakha.. 1 of 2 28th february
    The Russian military patrols the central streets of the city of Berdyansk in the Zaporozhye region 28th february
    They report a powerful explosion in Kyiv and a series of explosions in Kharkov. 28th february
    Tor smashes bayraktar drone near Chernigov. 28th february
    Ukrainains shelling kharkov 28th february
    Ukrainian helicopter shot down in the Kherson region 28th february
    unknown missiles launching, Kiev 28th february

    Edit: Russian airforce at work, 28th february

    Edit2 @19:15:
    Strike OPEN Iskander on the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. the operational command North, 28th february
    Russian Mi-8s with troops and Mi-35s fly to the Gostomel airfield 24th February.


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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:45 pm

    SolidarityWithRussia wrote:RT is reporting that Russia has captured a key nuclear plant in Ukraine. I do not know further details, but I interpret this as a sign that Russian intelligence has serious reasons to worry about Ukrainian radicals who could launch dirty bombs at Russia. Maybe Nato was gambling that in such an event Russia would not dare to strike back at Nato, but if Russia would suffer such a radioactive strike, I think Putin would not hesitate to retaliate with his nuclear arsenal against the Western bloc (maybe including Israel).
    The Chinese government was strongly opposing Russia's spec op at first, but then they seemed to be convinced by Russia why they were forced to attack Ukraine. Again, I am just speculating here, but I think China knows about the huge risk caused by the reckless influence of Nato in Ukraine.

    China cannot afford a weak Russia, that is fundamental in its vision of the world. A weak Russia complicates its claim to hegemony in the 21st century.

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    Post  miketheterrible Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:47 pm

    ArgentinaGuard wrote:
    SolidarityWithRussia wrote:RT is reporting that Russia has captured a key nuclear plant in Ukraine. I do not know further details, but I interpret this as a sign that Russian intelligence has serious reasons to worry about Ukrainian radicals who could launch dirty bombs at Russia. Maybe Nato was gambling that in such an event Russia would not dare to strike back at Nato, but if Russia would suffer such a radioactive strike, I think Putin would not hesitate to retaliate with his nuclear arsenal against the Western bloc (maybe including Israel).
    The Chinese government was strongly opposing Russia's spec op at first, but then they seemed to be convinced by Russia why they were forced to attack Ukraine. Again, I am just speculating here, but I think China knows about the huge risk caused by the reckless influence of Nato in Ukraine.

    China cannot afford a weak Russia, that is fundamental in its vision of the world. A weak Russia complicates its claim to hegemony in the 21st century.

    Can we stop talking about this already? China isn't doing anything. Neither for Russia or against it and in this conflict.

    So let's move on and stick to the fucking topic already

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    Post  Hannibal Barca Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:50 pm

    Third party analysis:

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    Post  Isos Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:51 pm

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    (Reuters) - Germany's Enercon on Monday said a "massive disruption" of satellite connections in Europe was affecting the operations of 5,800 wind turbines in central Europe.

    It said the satellite connections stopped working on Thursday, knocking out remote monitoring and control

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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:00 pm


    Is there any news about the conflict? military advances, general situation. When do you estimate the fall of Kiev?

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    Post  teh_beard Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:00 pm

    zorobabel wrote:FIFA/UEFA suspend all Russian clubs and national teams from all competitions
    Jeebsus.
    I`m so glad, without any irony.
    "Security restriction" on transportation of personal arms and procurement of ammo during those foot-ball-fests were such a pain in the ass for us Russian gun owners and practical shooters.
    Good fucking riddance.

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    Post  Urluber Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:02 pm

    Maybe not as cinematographic as in 1945 but touching moment nevertheless



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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:02 pm

    limb wrote:I saw the TB2 being destroyed by a Tor, but that seemed to be from dangerously close range. It lends credence that the drones actually managed to pull off some strikes.

    Can anyone here explain this? Why didn't the Russian IADS pick the TB2 from hundreds of km away. How will the IADs be able to destroy NATO missile salvos if it can't detect a drone until it reaches a shorad?

    TB2 drones fly relatively deep. Below a possible S300 / 400 capture. These systems are still standing on Russian / Belarus ground.

    This means, without A50 support, such drone is difficult to find. You may be able to see them but do not fire directly. The enemy also likes to destroy BUKM2 systems to prevent an AD defense.

    TorM2 has worked here. It will other work very well somewhere else. As long as an active TorM2 is there, the troupe SAVE is.

    We have to take into account that Russia probably does not bring everything back to make the NATO open the door.
    rigoletto wrote:Zelenskiy just signed the request to accession to the European Union.

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    Can anyone identify this palace?
    Hungary will say no.

    Whoever makes such things while he has negotiated over peace no intention to make peace.

    Aktive PR from Russia Fire.
    https://t.me/Ugolok_Sitha/4664


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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:05 pm

    teh_beard wrote:
    zorobabel wrote:FIFA/UEFA suspend all Russian clubs and national teams from all competitions
    Jeebsus.
    I`m so glad, without any irony.
    "Security restriction" on transportation of personal arms and procurement of ammo during those foot-ball-fests were such a pain in the ass for us Russian gun owners and practical shooters.
    Good fucking riddance.


    You are in Russia. Let me ask you a question. The Western media here speak of mass mobilizations against Putin. I think they are exaggerating. How is everything there?

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    Post  limb Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:07 pm

    Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:
    limb wrote:I saw the TB2 being destroyed by a Tor, but that seemed to be from dangerously close range. It lends credence that the drones actually managed to pull off some strikes.

    Can anyone here explain this? Why didn't the Russian IADS pick the TB2 from hundreds of km away. How will the IADs be able to destroy NATO missile salvos if it can't detect a drone until it reaches a shorad?

    TB2 drones fly relatively deep. Below a possible S300 / 400 capture. These systems are still standing on Russian / Belarus ground.

    This means, without A50 support, such drone is difficult to find. You may be able to see them but do not fire directly. The enemy also likes to destroy BUKM2 systems to prevent an AD defense.

    TorM2 has worked here. It will other work very well somewhere else. As long as an active TorM2 is there, the troupe SAVE is.

    We have to take into account that Russia probably does not bring everything back to make the NATO open the door.
    rigoletto wrote:Zelenskiy just signed the request to accession to the European Union.

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    Can anyone identify this palace?
    Hungary will say no.

    Whoever makes such things while he has negotiated over peace no intention to make peace.

    Are you saying the Ukrainians have destroyed BukM2s? Laughing

    That's a nonsensical excuse.

    Where are the A-50s then. Why aren't Russian fighters with irbis-E radars detecting the drones?
    Why aren'tt the OTH radars effective at detecting them?


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    Post  zorobabel Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:07 pm

    For Ukraine’s Refugees, Europe Opens Doors That Were Shut to Others
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/26/us/politics/ukraine-europe-refugees.html

    Tried to explain this before, but depopulating EU governments love the idea of white European migrants. They would happily taken in 5 million, maybe even more.

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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:12 pm

    zorobabel wrote:For Ukraine’s Refugees, Europe Opens Doors That Were Shut to Others


    Tried to explain this before, but depopulating EU governments love the idea of white European migrants. They would happily taken in 5 million, maybe even more.

    I don't think the idea sits well with progressive LGBT elites. It was out of the plans. However, think that Ukraine is the show of the moment. When these refugees occupy hospitals, spaces, social security, jobs, they will show their hypocrisy. Now the Poles want to show off. We will see in time.

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    Post  ATLASCUB Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:18 pm

    Sujoy wrote:


    Not sure why?  lol1

    Acting dumb when there is no other choice than to accept the truth hitting you straight in the face. Neo-nazism is alive and well in Europe. Not to mention that not all states in the EU subscribe to the open-door policy, and prefer while-only emigration or no emigration at all (a more debatable, complex topic). In this case, it's a mix of the two, heavily on the former... knowing what we know.


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    Post  bitcointrader70 Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:22 pm

    limb wrote:
    Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:
    limb wrote:I saw the TB2 being destroyed by a Tor, but that seemed to be from dangerously close range. It lends credence that the drones actually managed to pull off some strikes.

    Can anyone here explain this? Why didn't the Russian IADS pick the TB2 from hundreds of km away. How will the IADs be able to destroy NATO missile salvos if it can't detect a drone until it reaches a shorad?

    TB2 drones fly relatively deep. Below a possible S300 / 400 capture. These systems are still standing on Russian / Belarus ground.

    This means, without A50 support, such drone is difficult to find. You may be able to see them but do not fire directly. The enemy also likes to destroy BUKM2 systems to prevent an AD defense.

    TorM2 has worked here. It will other work very well somewhere else. As long as an active TorM2 is there, the troupe SAVE is.

    We have to take into account that Russia probably does not bring everything back to make the NATO open the door.
    rigoletto wrote:Zelenskiy just signed the request to accession to the European Union.

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    Can anyone identify this palace?
    Hungary will say no.

    Whoever makes such things while he has negotiated over peace no intention to make peace.

    Are you saying the Ukrainians have destroyed BukM2s? Laughing

    That's a nonsensical excuse.

    Where are the A-50s then. Why aren't Russian fighters with irbis-E radars detecting the drones?
    Why aren'tt the OTH radars effective at detecting them?
    I’m starting to give up arguing with them. It’s a lost cause. They are about as brainwashed about Russian military power as some Ukrainian nationalist believes in the ghost of Kiev.


    Clear evidence of Russian incompetence hitting them right in the face and they can’t admit it.

    Ukraine has had great success on the tactical level and that’s why Russia hasn’t taken Kharkov or Mariupol yet. And are struggling to get to Kiev.

    Their conveys getting hit by artillery and ambushed is incompetence from not having proper recon with drones and Air Force.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:27 pm

    Even Southfront which is super pro-Russian has called Russians brass decisions to handcuffs their own troops incomprehensible and they are right, Putin actions are absolutely moronic. The Russian soldiers are good troops its their leaders that are failing them right now.

    The Ukrainians are thankful for this, its letting constantly punch the russians in the face.

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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:31 pm

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    limb wrote:

    Clear evidence of Russian incompetence hitting them right in the face and they can’t admit it.

    Ukraine has had great success on the tactical level and that’s why Russia hasn’t taken Kharkov or Mariupol yet. And are struggling to get to Kiev.

    Their conveys getting hit by artillery and ambushed is incompetence from not having proper recon with drones and Air Force.


    The ghost of Kiev is propaganda. Now, what is the Russian military disaster in 5 days of war and in the 2 largest country in Europe? What I see is an occupation without violence of many strategic zones. It is not a scorched earth war. It is something new on a grand scale. You are in a hurry. Russian boys have fallen but not to the level that the Nazis in Kiev say. In a month or more they can do other analyses.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:36 pm

    ArgentinaGuard wrote:
    bitcointrader70 wrote:
    limb wrote:

    Clear evidence of Russian incompetence hitting them right in the face and they can’t admit it.

    Ukraine has had great success on the tactical level and that’s why Russia hasn’t taken Kharkov or Mariupol yet. And are struggling to get to Kiev.

    Their conveys getting hit by artillery and ambushed is incompetence from not having proper recon with drones and Air Force.


    The ghost of Kiev is propaganda. Now, what is the Russian military disaster in 5 days of war and in the 2 largest country in Europe? What I see is an occupation without violence of many strategic zones. It is not a scorched earth war. It is something new on a grand scale. You are in a hurry. Russian boys have fallen but not to the level that the Nazis in Kiev say. In a month or more they can do other analyses.

    Lets be real the russians are what at most 70k? that's not all infantry etc.

    They cannot take Kharov at this rate with these limited troops who do not have the support they need, Ukraine is dug in and will smash any advance now on the city. Because the russians have to literally drive against their fortified positions while being massively out numbered

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    Post  Hole Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:37 pm

    https://thesaker.is/day-4-of-the-russian-offensive-in-the-ukraine/
    Includes a interview with Andrey Bezrukov, PGU/SVBR "spy". Must read!

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    Post  miketheterrible Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:37 pm

    ArgentinaGuard wrote:
    bitcointrader70 wrote:
    limb wrote:

    Clear evidence of Russian incompetence hitting them right in the face and they can’t admit it.

    Ukraine has had great success on the tactical level and that’s why Russia hasn’t taken Kharkov or Mariupol yet. And are struggling to get to Kiev.

    Their conveys getting hit by artillery and ambushed is incompetence from not having proper recon with drones and Air Force.


    The ghost of Kiev is propaganda. Now, what is the Russian military disaster in 5 days of war and in the 2 largest country in Europe? What I see is an occupation without violence of many strategic zones. It is not a scorched earth war. It is something new on a grand scale. You are in a hurry. Russian boys have fallen but not to the level that the Nazis in Kiev say. In a month or more they can do other analyses.

    You are talking to a known idiot and someone pushing Nazi propaganda. Much like a few others still floating here.

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