Russian special military operation in Ukraine #2

The progress is slow because Russia does not want to cause problems to civilians.

When the Americans went into Iraq in 2004, they had 300,000 troops and it took them 3 weeks to get Baghdad and they leveled the whole country.

Russia is not using anywhere close to that many troops and they have to worry about civilians.

bitcointrader70 wrote:Seems like the foolish Russian military command thought the Ukrainians wouldn’t put up a fight at all. Heads should roll for this catastrophic failure.

I do agree, suspending fighting day 2 was a bad idea, screw negotiations

And I think they should hit harder Ukraine forces that are out in the open

Russia can do more damage than this, but restraint has been ordered from the damn top 

I understand making connections with some Ukrainians that can be friendly, but if it costs guys their lives then am sorry friendships can be built later

Nobody throws with stones on the Russian tanks. But no one is there for a welcome. 8 years of fascist brainwash show traces. Remain cool and perform the operations without further stops. The price of security for the future is not for nothing. Civilians scold, fascists hunt and kill.

Let these idiots lit something of weakness and losses. The result counts. No hypershown weapons with 3min to Moscow!

No more weakness, nowhere in the world. Stop NATO terrorist or answer follows immediately. US help help with drones?
Shoot them off! Drones are not victims and are not for propaganda! Says it was our airspace!

Flies Iranian drones and staff! Use it to find and kill the enemy in Ukraine faster and kill!

bitcointrader70 wrote:Seems like the foolish Russian military command thought the Ukrainians wouldn’t put up a fight at all. Heads should roll for this catastrophic failure.

Umerica had a 20 year long disaster in Afghanistan. I saw it myself on twatter hundreds of chopped heads rolling down the White House stairs. It was a bloody mess!

Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:Nobody throws with stones on the Russian tanks. But no one is there for a welcome. 8 years of fascist brainwash show traces. Remain cool and perform the operations without further stops. The price of security for the future is not for nothing. Civilians scold, fascists hunt and kill.

Let these idiots lit something of weakness and losses. The result counts. No hypershown weapons with 3min to Moscow!

No more weakness, nowhere in the world. Stop NATO terrorist or answer follows immediately. US help help with drones?
Shoot them off! Drones are not victims and are not for propaganda! Says it was our airspace!

Flies Iranian drones and staff! Use it to find and kill the enemy in Ukraine faster and kill!

They should be knocking US drones down , pederasts are coordinating Ukr forces from global hawks, show off 9m100 missile and down those drones

bitcointrader70 wrote:Seems like the foolish Russian military command thought the Ukrainians wouldn’t put up a fight at all. Heads should roll for this catastrophic failure.

Have you ever commanded troops? Ever raged a war?. Tell me what part of that's happening is a "catastrophic failure" from a tactical position on the ground?.

There is none, The Russians are doing okay.

They have dropped the being nice BS and are now shelling everything regardless of people being there, they have shelled Khakrov without a remote concern of civilian death, they are making reasonable amount of gain considering the situation.

Again Ukraine is shielded via big cities in the north, the russians cannot drive around them, they have to deal with these cities and if you've EVER done Urban fighting, you'd know is a slow and grueling affair. Doubly so when your enemy is decently armed.

In the East they are tying down a major portions of Ukraines army without directly fighting it, that's a big tactical win, making those troops sit there and do very little.

In the south they are advancing rapidly.

Yes there have been some blunders, but nothing extremely terrible.

Seems ammunition factory Igman Konjic got huge order of 7;62 ammo for Ukraine.

Broski wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

Orlan wrote:Germany delivering though Poland 1000 ATGMs and 500 Stingers to Ukraine.

and this is a major tactical mistake the Russians made, that boarder should have been cut off or at least attempted to cut it off at the very start

Have you taken a good look at the map of the Ukraine? How was Russia supposed to reach the western border and secure it within 2 days? 




Unlike you, the Russian military who actually have some skin in the game have not underestimated the 1000's of sociopathic nazis, western funded mercenaries and chechen terrorists that infests the country right now.

Inaccurate map Khakrov and Sumy aren't under Russian control, Nor is Chenihiv

Isos wrote:

mnztr wrote:Has Russia closed Ukraine's Western borders? NATO is talking about sending weapons and fuel. If Russia does not do something as simple as interdicting these I am less confident in their ability to quickly end this. They should allow anyone to leave but not enter.

They aren't controlling that border. They can bomb them when they touch Ukrainian land.

They can also threaten to nuk warsaw for being part of the conflict abd involving Nato.

Perhaps they need to air lift some troops to set up check points or just barricade the highways inbound. Monitor with drones. Any fuel/cargo trucks get seized further down the highway by helo troops. and taken to a holding area.

and....youtube hit me with an upload ban

Zo here is the google drive link, go nuts.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1dYyKpAdq_C4YopTL7js6FafJ6c3Aqnqi?usp=sharing

Tried to put the discriptions of the footage in the names.
And tried to keep it fammily friendly.

All from Beards Telegram sources.

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

Broski wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

Orlan wrote:Germany delivering though Poland 1000 ATGMs and 500 Stingers to Ukraine.

and this is a major tactical mistake the Russians made, that boarder should have been cut off or at least attempted to cut it off at the very start

Have you taken a good look at the map of the Ukraine? How was Russia supposed to reach the western border and secure it within 2 days? 




Unlike you, the Russian military who actually have some skin in the game have not underestimated the 1000's of sociopathic nazis, western funded mercenaries and chechen terrorists that infests the country right now.

Inaccurate map Khakrov and Sumy aren't under Russian control, Nor is Chenihiv

The map shows the territory around under Rusian control, is like Kiev, all the cities have been bypassed

Broski wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

Orlan wrote:Germany delivering though Poland 1000 ATGMs and 500 Stingers to Ukraine.

and this is a major tactical mistake the Russians made, that boarder should have been cut off or at least attempted to cut it off at the very start

Have you taken a good look at the map of the Ukraine? How was Russia supposed to reach the western border and secure it within 2 days? 




Unlike you, the Russian military who actually have some skin in the game have not underestimated the 1000's of sociopathic nazis, western funded mercenaries and chechen terrorists that infests the country right now.

Question I have of that map is even though Belarus was used to send Russian troops, why not have sent them at the far left of Belarus border to reach Kamin or Kovel and than send their forces to quickly block off Poland, Hungary and Romania from anymore transfer of equipment?

In a nutshell the guys explains it well. And this should be broadcasted and maybe the sheep in the west will have some understanding.

thegopnik wrote:

Broski wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

Orlan wrote:Germany delivering though Poland 1000 ATGMs and 500 Stingers to Ukraine.

and this is a major tactical mistake the Russians made, that boarder should have been cut off or at least attempted to cut it off at the very start

Have you taken a good look at the map of the Ukraine? How was Russia supposed to reach the western border and secure it within 2 days? 




Unlike you, the Russian military who actually have some skin in the game have not underestimated the 1000's of sociopathic nazis, western funded mercenaries and chechen terrorists that infests the country right now.

Question I have of that map is even though Belarus was used to send Russian troops, why not have sent them at the far left of Belarus border to reach Kamin or Kovel and than send their forces to quickly block off Poland, Hungary and Romania from anymore transfer of equipment?

That is a good question, but isn't one of the answers because western Ukraine is a hotbed of anti-Russian sentiment, and where most of the Maidanists and ultranationalists are from? If so, the reason for not blocking off the borders, something that really does need to happen, could be to limit casualties.

Poland is being contained by belarus, remember with the migrants, Belarus forces are near kaliningrad

Poland can send weapons but its forces are well tied up by Belarus and Kaliningrad, 11th army corps, belarus armed forces, and 1st GTA

thegopnik wrote:

Broski wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

Orlan wrote:Germany delivering though Poland 1000 ATGMs and 500 Stingers to Ukraine.

and this is a major tactical mistake the Russians made, that boarder should have been cut off or at least attempted to cut it off at the very start

Have you taken a good look at the map of the Ukraine? How was Russia supposed to reach the western border and secure it within 2 days? 




Unlike you, the Russian military who actually have some skin in the game have not underestimated the 1000's of sociopathic nazis, western funded mercenaries and chechen terrorists that infests the country right now.

Question I have of that map is even though Belarus was used to send Russian troops, why not have sent them at the far left of Belarus border to reach Kamin or Kovel and than send their forces to quickly block off Poland, Hungary and Romania from anymore transfer of equipment?

I suppose the MoD isn't very concerned about what is going on in western Ukraine at this moment but concentrating on the areas that matter most.

The fact there are ammo, guns etc. entering from there doesn't really make things that worse if the bulk of the Ukraine army can't in practice receive it. Yet, surely they have intelligence personal gathering what/where/who is in there whose can work better if there is no fighting happening around.

https://twitter.com/BabakTaghvaee/status/1497646419389390852?t=ZOfstBXI2sD_K1KbY9-wRw&s=19

Orlan wrote:https://twitter.com/BabakTaghvaee/status/1497646419389390852?t=ZOfstBXI2sD_K1KbY9-wRw&s=19

Embed your fucking garbage tweets already. Stop making us click it.

franco wrote:Donbas front

- rebels and Russians claim that there were 150,000 Ukrainian forces there
- Russian MoD said that 59,300 were on the front lines
- that leaves 90,000+ in support
- apparently about a third each of this 90,000 are based around Kharkov and Mariupol, the two end anchors of this force
- those areas will be hard to take

NOTE: anyone else noticing that the English speaking bloggers reporting are all going to bed from exhaustion... or are they being shut down? News from that source is drying up.  

The Donbass troops can keep the pressure on this front, and it's far better leaving those Ukrainian troops tied up there for now, gives Russian forces achancw to focus elsewhere, there will come a point when Ukrainian government will start bringing some of those troops back to areas under threat, now that these troops are in convoys going elsewhere they will be easier to hit and destroy.

Arkanghelsk wrote:Maybe that's why Topol was moved into firing position

It might be necessary to nuke Poland and hit the baltics , maybe even scandics

This is escalating fast

1st Guard Tank Army and 6th Army could join the fun, also 200th and 80th arctic warfare brigade in Finland and Norway, 

All outcomes need to be considered in this moment, nuclear KH101 should be armed and tu95 in patrol 24/7 , this is not drills anymore

FORWARD RUSSIA

Psychotic wibble.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BabakTaghvaee/status/1497570755382415360


Where is the Russian airforce. Why are Ukrainian mig29s and su27s still active?

If this is really going on no way Russia can fight nato conventionally.

Finty wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:Maybe that's why Topol was moved into firing position

It might be necessary to nuke Poland and hit the baltics , maybe even scandics

This is escalating fast

1st Guard Tank Army and 6th Army could join the fun, also 200th and 80th arctic warfare brigade in Finland and Norway, 

All outcomes need to be considered in this moment, nuclear KH101 should be armed and tu95 in patrol 24/7 , this is not drills anymore

FORWARD RUSSIA

Psychotic wibble.

If Poland attacks Belarus and russian forces, then they are opening themselves up to being bombed back to stone age.

It isn't right. It's all wrong. But Poland and Baltics shouldn't be involved but they are pushing for themselves to be involved. And ultimately, they open themselves up.

Finty wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:Maybe that's why Topol was moved into firing position

It might be necessary to nuke Poland and hit the baltics , maybe even scandics

This is escalating fast

1st Guard Tank Army and 6th Army could join the fun, also 200th and 80th arctic warfare brigade in Finland and Norway, 

All outcomes need to be considered in this moment, nuclear KH101 should be armed and tu95 in patrol 24/7 , this is not drills anymore

FORWARD RUSSIA

Psychotic wibble.

Your psychotic country has started it, Russia will end it

Russia needs decisiveness and full willingness to microwave the aggressor

mnztr wrote:

Isos wrote:

mnztr wrote:Has Russia closed Ukraine's Western borders? NATO is talking about sending weapons and fuel. If Russia does not do something as simple as interdicting these I am less confident in their ability to quickly end this. They should allow anyone to leave but not enter.

They aren't controlling that border. They can bomb them when they touch Ukrainian land.

They can also threaten to nuk warsaw for being part of the conflict abd involving Nato.

Perhaps they need to air lift some troops to set up check points or just barricade the highways inbound.  Monitor with drones. Any fuel/cargo trucks get seized further down the highway by helo troops. and taken to a holding area.

Airmobile warfare does not realy work like that.
An airmobile unit does not really have the combat power to hold an objective for more then a few days, and need stronger armoured units to relive them. They are tough as nails, well trained and versatile but also vulnerable due to lack of armoured vehicles.

However im 100% sure that guys like SSO and 45th VDV have been infiltrated along the main MSRs since D-day -3 having OPs set up and delivering intel on what happens on the roads.
And as you say there are drones overhead already, i'm almost sure of that as well. But of course this information is not shared until after the war.