The heads of the Donetsk and Lugansk republics are present in the hall. The signing of friendship and mutual assistance agreements took place.
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miketheterrible wrote:Funny, cause no one in France or Germany said a thing about recognition. So they were informed and they shrugged at it. Hence why even Biden was saying no sanctions on "partial invasion". Russia won't invade. They will recognize the republics and send weapons to them. What unelected assholes like Borell says means didly squat.
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kvs wrote:miketheterrible wrote:Funny, cause no one in France or Germany said a thing about recognition. So they were informed and they shrugged at it. Hence why even Biden was saying no sanctions on "partial invasion". Russia won't invade. They will recognize the republics and send weapons to them. What unelected assholes like Borell says means didly squat.
The tone of Putin's public address does not conform to this. There will be economic and military assistance. This does not mean invasion.
But Russia is not going to restrain itself since NATzO is not even trying to hide its agenda.
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bitcointrader70 wrote:Stock market down in Russia 15% before sanctions. Time for me to put some money together buy low baby let’s go!!!! Bitcointrader70 gonna get some dough dough dough dough !!
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ATLASCUB wrote:Putin giving a history class for this forum.
"They're not Russians... but but Ukranians fighting Ukranians... why should Russia care?"
How long have you heard of this from the propagandist dimwits here....
When dear leader debases your arguments you gotta be a shameless asshole to try to spin it.
Putin failed to mail in this memo for sure.
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Isos wrote:ATLASCUB wrote:Putin giving a history class for this forum.
"They're not Russians... but but Ukranians fighting Ukranians... why should Russia care?"
How long have you heard of this from the propagandist dimwits here....
When dear leader debases your arguments you gotta be a shameless asshole to try to spin it.
Putin failed to mail in this memo for sure.
He never said that. You must have seen CNN translation...
He said at the start Ukraine was created by Russian and Lenin in particular.
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ATLASCUB wrote:Isos wrote:ATLASCUB wrote:Putin giving a history class for this forum.
"They're not Russians... but but Ukranians fighting Ukranians... why should Russia care?"
How long have you heard of this from the propagandist dimwits here....
When dear leader debases your arguments you gotta be a shameless asshole to try to spin it.
Putin failed to mail in this memo for sure.
He never said that. You must have seen CNN translation...
He said at the start Ukraine was created by Russian and Lenin in particular.
Are you crazy? Ukraine as a state was founded by Lenin, made up of Russian lands and Polish, Hungarian lands, as well as smaller additions. Most of the land belonged to the Russian empire, with Russian subjects aka Russian citizens.
How shameless do you have to be to try to grasp at semantics or any other bullshit. But but he said... do you even understand what the words mean, and how they're meant to be interpreted?
I don't need the dimwits of these forum to admit they're wrong and beg for forgiveness. I know for a damn fact they're wrong, and that's just that.
Isos wrote:99% of the speech is about how Ukraine will be a threat from now on, how they will get nuks and how US will use them against Russia.
Recognizing those two republics isn't a solution to the above mentioned threats...
So a war is still very likely.
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Isos wrote:
I was talking about your quote "they are not russians...". Putin just said the opposite.
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miketheterrible wrote:Isos wrote:99% of the speech is about how Ukraine will be a threat from now on, how they will get nuks and how US will use them against Russia.
Recognizing those two republics isn't a solution to the above mentioned threats...
So a war is still very likely.
Russia and the rest of the world knows Ukraine will never get nukes. But Ukraine threatening wanting to have nukes is actually a damn good excuse to push this. Neither US nor anyone else wants them to get nukes. So that is off the table anyway.
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ATLASCUB wrote:Isos wrote:
I was talking about your quote "they are not russians...". Putin just said the opposite.
So it's a misunderstanding. The dimwits here say they're not Russian in an attempt to damage control Putin's inaction up to this point, in date and time in history. It's a quote mockery of their clownish arguments. Of which I'm sure you're well aware off.
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par far wrote:
What does the action do to the Minsk agreement is the big question?
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Isos wrote:miketheterrible wrote:Isos wrote:99% of the speech is about how Ukraine will be a threat from now on, how they will get nuks and how US will use them against Russia.
Recognizing those two republics isn't a solution to the above mentioned threats...
So a war is still very likely.
Russia and the rest of the world knows Ukraine will never get nukes. But Ukraine threatening wanting to have nukes is actually a damn good excuse to push this. Neither US nor anyone else wants them to get nukes. So that is off the table anyway.
Actually, like Puyin said, the left over from USSR allow them to create them pretty quickly. Much more than any other country. And once they get them it's over for Moscow they won't be able to touch them.
He also expressed concerns about long range weapons which makes it worse.
Nato puppets neo-nazi in control of long range weapons armed with nuclear warheads...
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Isos wrote:He went to get orders from masters before even meeting his own staff.
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Discussed the events of the last hours with @POTUS. We begin the meeting of the National Security and Defense Council. A conversation with @BorisJohnson is also planned
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miketheterrible wrote:PapaDragon wrote:Pro-western Russia is a death sentence to China (CCP version of it at least)flamming_python wrote:Now imagine if China turns on Russia as well, and they and the West all declare Putin a violator of international law and new Saddam Hussein
Well. Don't say it can't happen
I don't see any good to come from this. If it's a pressure tactic, it didn't work. If it's a bluff, time to call it off has passed. If it's real, then what next? Restart of civil war in the Ukraine?
They may not like it but if they plan on existing they will at the minimum STFU
China needs Russia regarding the Taiwan situation. Add in, energy. So they will keep on russias side. At worst say "diplomacy is needed"
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