flamming_python wrote:bitcointrader70 wrote:Isos wrote:There is way to spin this by Garry b and archangesk claiming Russia doesn’t care about Kiev or Ukraine when Putin is giving speeches about Ukrainian history on the internet.
Man this is bad for Russia indeed. The only mistake the west made is that they haven’t given Putin an off ramp. And a well executed invasion has the potential to flip the world on its head.
They didn't care about Ukraine for years. What changed is the US trying to bring them into Nato.
The only thing that an invasion can make is make Russia bigger. Ukraine can't resist and no one will move to save them. They just gave away Ukraine.
Russia will have a population of 200 million people and get the biggest country in europe as a bonus.
USA totally failed their coup. I guess new cold war woud suit them because they lost all their hot wars in the middle east and they need a constant war to be alive but the rest of the world won't side with them and still work peacefully with Russia. So no hot wars and no cold war which means fall of the USA
Saying they didn’t care about it Ukraine for years is a straight up lie. They provided tons of cheap gas, ridiculously favorable loans, debt forgiveness, etc…. To keep them in Russia’s orbit. And all it took was a few nato backed skinheads backed by a few years of propaganda to counteract all of what Russia was trying to do. Moscow got fucking evicted from Kiev. The hard way and tumbled down the stairs.
And there isn’t 40 million people left in that shit hole. The American backed puppet state ran most of the normal people out. If Russia does invade and take over they will be ruling over a pile of dog shit with a hugely hostile population.
I really. Really really. Really don't see how in any shape, form, dimension, geodesic, singularity - see how this could all possibly have even been conceived, as a 'good idea'
The LDNR is battling the Ukrainian army now. There are a number of zombified districts even in the Donetsk and Lugansk oblasts. Mariupol - well zombified; I can provide videos. Slavyansk, little is heard from it nowadays but last I saw it was zombified too. Even though both of those originally were held by the DNR and ordinary civilians there tried to fight off the Ukrainian army that came into town.
The northern districts of the Lugansk region were never in the LNR at any time, they belong to a different historical area really than the Donbass.
And that's not taking into account the possibility of the Russian regular army invading the Ukraine. Which it's in a position to do. Albeit I hope no such decision is being considered.
According to one poll, 45% of Russians support recognizing the DNR/LNR, while 40% are against it.
There is another poll that suggests much more support for the move.
Either way society is divided. And as for invading the Ukraine outright, I don't imagine who would support such an insane move.
could we have at least one video?