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    Post  higurashihougi Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:21 pm

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    Post  GarryB Tue Mar 01, 2022 4:17 am

    Relatively civilised european city... that celebrates SS units and has marches for nazi collaborators...

    An example of the problem the west has... if you hate putin then you are OK with us... the very idea we don't have common enemies is just ignorant and leads the west to have relations with groups they should have nothing to do with just based on their morals and ideals... but the west will use anyone against their perceived biggest enemies because that is their style now.

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    Post  andalusia Tue Mar 01, 2022 9:11 pm

    I know members here no next to nothing about American football however these two former football coaches still think Russia is a socialist country.


    https://www.audacy.com/sports/ncaa-football/charlie-weis-roasted-by-for-ignorant-take-on-russia-ukraine






    Sen. Tommy Tuberville says Russia is still a 'communist country' and is invading Ukraine because 'they need more farmland'


    https://www.businessinsider.com/tommy-tuberville-communist-russia-invading-ukraine-farmland-comments-2022-2
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    Post  flamming_python Wed Mar 02, 2022 12:46 am

    higurashihougi wrote:Western propaganda #2 - Page 3 Civili10

    **** these people

    They honestly see the civilian dead among brown people in Libya, Syria and Iraq as something not worth talking about

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    Post  franco Wed Mar 02, 2022 1:33 am

    flamming_python wrote:
    higurashihougi wrote:Western propaganda #2 - Page 3 Civili10

    **** these people

    They honestly see the civilian dead among brown people in Libya, Syria and Iraq as something not worth talking about

    This and a couple of other similar comments are scoring big points in Asia, Africa, Middle East and Latin America... but not for Ukraine and the west. thumbsup

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    Post  GarryB Wed Mar 02, 2022 4:14 am

    I know members here no next to nothing about American football however these two former football coaches still think Russia is a socialist country.

    The interesting thing is that the first link for the Audacy includes that the views are ignorant in the link title, but the businessinsider includes the ignorance in the link/title.

    I would say the reason the US is in the state it is in is there is no debate or questioning of views any more, and this soccer coach's view should be as noteworthy as his water boys views on the subject. Equally a Senator that is this misinformed and prepared to comment about it publicly... how did he get his job?


    This and a couple of other similar comments are scoring big points in Asia, Africa, Middle East and Latin America... but not for Ukraine and the west

    The great power of RT was not the propaganda it put out, but its disection and analysis of western propaganda and how it is so obviously wrong and ignorant and easily proven to be wrong.

    Of course it has to be silenced... it was effective.

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    Post  higurashihougi Wed Mar 02, 2022 3:22 pm

    CBS is not the only one who have the double standard scandals.

    The double-standard and racist attitudes is actually widespread amongst western mainstream media.

    https://www.facebook.com/trtworld/videos/474446920941504/
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    Post  higurashihougi Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:38 pm

    https://www.reddit.com/r/GenZedong/comments/t4b9s4/ukrainian_woman_goes_off_script_in_french_tv/

    When Western propaganda interviewed the person without knowing that she intended to tell the truth about Ukraina. Very Happy Very Happy

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Thu Mar 03, 2022 10:03 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:https://www.reddit.com/r/GenZedong/comments/t4b9s4/ukrainian_woman_goes_off_script_in_french_tv/

    When Western propaganda interviewed the person without knowing that she intended to tell the truth about Ukraina. Very Happy Very Happy
    Like a repeat of the Russo-Georgian War lol! Razz

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    Post  PhSt Fri Mar 04, 2022 4:51 pm

    Hopefully, this move will reinvigorate Russia to invest more efforts to offer the world a multi-language alternative to Youtube



    YouTube, Google to block Russian state-owned channels


    Google followed Microsoft’s actions to limit Russian propaganda by announcing Tuesday that it would block Russian state-owned channels on YouTube within Europe and also crack down on “deceptive practices” elsewhere on the site.

    Google said it would block the channels Russia Today (RT) and Sputnik, both operated by the Russian government, across Europe. “Connected” channels, such RT America, RT Live, and RT Sport MMA, will also be blocked. Correction: Google said that it would only block the YouTube channels across Europe. A previous version of this story implied that the block would be worldwide.

    While Google said that it intends to block Russian state-sponsored propaganda on its video feeds, it’s not clear that Google is taking the same actions as Microsoft. On Monday, Microsoft said that it would block news from Sputnik and Russia Today, both owned by the Russian government, from its search results and its Start news feed. On Tuesday, Google said only that it has “significantly limited recommendations globally for a number of Russian state-funded media outlets across our platforms,” without saying whether that includes search results or not.

    Google said Tuesday that its actions added on to its existing de-monetization of Russian state-funded media. Google also said that it is working to make “reliable and trustworthy information readily available.” “When people around the world search for topics related to the war in Ukraine on Search or YouTube, our systems prominently surface information, videos, and other key context from authoritative news sources,” the company said in a blog post.

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    Post  Werewolf Sat Mar 05, 2022 9:14 am

    PhSt wrote:Hopefully, this move will reinvigorate Russia to invest more efforts to offer the world a multi-language alternative to Youtube



    YouTube, Google to block Russian state-owned channels


    Google followed Microsoft’s actions to limit Russian propaganda by announcing Tuesday that it would block Russian state-owned channels on YouTube within Europe and also crack down on “deceptive practices” elsewhere on the site.

    Google said it would block the channels Russia Today (RT) and Sputnik, both operated by the Russian government, across Europe. “Connected” channels, such RT America, RT Live, and RT Sport MMA, will also be blocked. Correction: Google said that it would only block the YouTube channels across Europe. A previous version of this story implied that the block would be worldwide.

    While Google said that it intends to block Russian state-sponsored propaganda on its video feeds, it’s not clear that Google is taking the same actions as Microsoft. On Monday, Microsoft said that it would block news from Sputnik and Russia Today, both owned by the Russian government, from its search results and its Start news feed. On Tuesday, Google said only that it has “significantly limited recommendations globally for a number of Russian state-funded media outlets across our platforms,” without saying whether that includes search results or not.

    Google said Tuesday that its actions added on to its existing de-monetization of Russian state-funded media. Google also said that it is working to make “reliable and trustworthy information readily available.” “When people around the world search for topics related to the war in Ukraine on Search or YouTube, our systems prominently surface information, videos, and other key context from authoritative news sources,” the company said in a blog post.

    Many people are waiting for this and only a few companies/countries have the money for that (Yandex & Alibaba Group/Tencent). Even many in the West who constantly get blocked,deleted and reported by the left are calling for alternative plattforms, even tho there are alternatives, they are small and insignifcant at this moment. Yandex should do a plattform with freedom of speech as the core principal and people will go on this plattform. Yes, the West will block it but 5/6 of the world will enjoy it and sooner or later the "bans" will be lifted or reinforced anyways, so this should be a sign to Russia and russian companies to get their arses moving since they have ignored it for so long. China, Russia,India,Pakistan and other great nations should ban Youtube/Google/Facebook as soon as possible and Yandex's users of their streaming plattform will explode over a single day.

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    Post  andalusia Tue Mar 08, 2022 12:11 am

    I always hear Americans say that a world without US power would be chaos.  I just would like another point of view outside the US.

    Just want an analysis about this article:


    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/03/putin-kremlin-imperialism-ukraine-american-power/624180/
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    Post  GarryB Tue Mar 08, 2022 5:17 am

    Repeatedly in discussions with pro west people they end up with the argument that things would be much worse if Russia or China were in charge...

    Totally ignoring the fact that China and Russia don't want to be in charge, they want to make decisions for themselves in their own interests.

    They don't want to be like the west, which consists of a block of countries all subservient to the US and subject to her demands and tantrums.

    This image is very very accurate and shows the structure of the west...

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    It shows daddy US in charge and Israel controls the US by more than just money, but if they split will get half your stuff so no split there.

    The Kids are arab because they control the oil/money.

    European countries are lap dogs... and we see the Ukraine, but lots of other countries at that level too including Venezuela before Chavez etc etc where they needed their resources, but otherwise could care less about them.

    This is the world the US created, and the core reason the west did not accept Russia and Russia did not accept western terms for cooperation was because Russia would join this family as a cat, whom everyone would abuse and tease...

    China would get the same treatment and are not interested either... Russia and China have never been groomed as children or animals... they are people and expect to be treated with respect and each has the nuclear weapon capacity to resist any force that might be applied to make things happen otherwise.

    The west does not want Russia as a friend and has made this clear...

    Russia is now going to try to make it as an independent power as is China and they will do so by cooperating with the rest of the world.

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    Post  lyle6 Tue Mar 08, 2022 5:48 am

    Funny thing is, once all of this is done. Both Europe, the ME and Israel are going to need a security backer, which can only obviously be Russia. All this bullshit with Ukraine is effectively just Russia and the US showing everyone else who's boss - who has the escalation dominance in theater.

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    Post  andalusia Tue Mar 08, 2022 5:54 pm

    GarryB wrote:Repeatedly in discussions with pro west people they end up with the argument that things would be much worse if Russia or China were in charge...

    Totally ignoring the fact that China and Russia don't want to be in charge, they want to make decisions for themselves in their own interests.

    They don't want to be like the west, which consists of a block of countries all subservient to the US and subject to her demands and tantrums.

    This image is very very accurate and shows the structure of the west...

    Western propaganda #2 - Page 3 Peckin16

    It shows daddy US in charge and Israel controls the US by more than just money, but if they split will get half your stuff so no split there.

    The Kids are arab because they control the oil/money.

    European countries are lap dogs... and we see the Ukraine, but lots of other countries at that level too including Venezuela before Chavez etc etc where they needed their resources, but otherwise could care less about them.

    This is the world the US created, and the core reason the west did not accept Russia and Russia did not accept western terms for cooperation was because Russia would join this family as a cat, whom everyone would abuse and tease...

    China would get the same treatment and are not interested either... Russia and China have never been groomed as children or animals... they are people and expect to be treated with respect and each has the nuclear weapon capacity to resist any force that might be applied to make things happen otherwise.

    The west does not want Russia as a friend and has made this clear...

    Russia is now going to try to make it as an independent power as is China and they will do so by cooperating with the rest of the world.


    I was on another website and there were Americans who were itching for a war with Russia.  They are some Americans who say that the US should have done what Patton suggested an attacked the USSR when they had the opportunity in 1945.  I know you guys are better informed about this topic but what is a good rebuttal?

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    Post  George1 Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:08 pm

    andalusia wrote:
    GarryB wrote:Repeatedly in discussions with pro west people they end up with the argument that things would be much worse if Russia or China were in charge...

    Totally ignoring the fact that China and Russia don't want to be in charge, they want to make decisions for themselves in their own interests.

    They don't want to be like the west, which consists of a block of countries all subservient to the US and subject to her demands and tantrums.

    This image is very very accurate and shows the structure of the west...

    Western propaganda #2 - Page 3 Peckin16

    It shows daddy US in charge and Israel controls the US by more than just money, but if they split will get half your stuff so no split there.

    The Kids are arab because they control the oil/money.

    European countries are lap dogs... and we see the Ukraine, but lots of other countries at that level too including Venezuela before Chavez etc etc where they needed their resources, but otherwise could care less about them.

    This is the world the US created, and the core reason the west did not accept Russia and Russia did not accept western terms for cooperation was because Russia would join this family as a cat, whom everyone would abuse and tease...

    China would get the same treatment and are not interested either... Russia and China have never been groomed as children or animals... they are people and expect to be treated with respect and each has the nuclear weapon capacity to resist any force that might be applied to make things happen otherwise.

    The west does not want Russia as a friend and has made this clear...

    Russia is now going to try to make it as an independent power as is China and they will do so by cooperating with the rest of the world.


    I was on another website and there were Americans who were itching for a war with Russia.  They are some Americans who say that the US should have done what Patton suggested an attacked the USSR when they had the opportunity in 1945.  I know you guys are better informed about this topic but what is a good rebuttal?


    a lot of western movies portrayed Russians as evils ana paranoids



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    Post  GarryB Wed Mar 09, 2022 2:51 am


    I was on another website and there were Americans who were itching for a war with Russia. They are some Americans who say that the US should have done what Patton suggested an attacked the USSR when they had the opportunity in 1945. I know you guys are better informed about this topic but what is a good rebuttal?

    They are idiots, Russia wont keep fighting conventionally, if US army units go in to the Ukraine and start fighting for the orcs, Brussels and the Pentagon will glow for months if not years.

    Computer games aside the west does not understand war, for the west it is a game, for Russia it is all about survival.

    Russia is crushing an enormous Orc force with a recon force it normally sends ahead of its main force...

    The politicians in the west didn't listen to Patton because he was a fucking idiot... the west claims to have won the war with D Day, but plenty of those German forces didn't really fight to the death... many actually thought they could surrender to the west and they would fuel up their planes and tanks and head to the eastern front to fight the Soviets.

    Meanwhile the three quarters of the German military on the eastern front fought tooth and nail and were still defeated by the Soviet force that crushed them.

    The only advantage the west had was nuclear weapons and they didn't have that many and the planes that carried them couldn't reach Moscow, so they would be bombing eastern europe with them at best in planes the Soviets could easily shoot down.

    The core issue is lack of respect, most western civilians know very little about Russia... that is obvious because no one has said... hey... about this new round of tougher sanctions that are going to make them do as they are told by the west.... do we really think that is going to work against a country that survived a brutal nazi invasion before and we are threatening it with again?

    If there were Russian supported communist mexicans in Mexico that wanted Texas and California back and you found out they had 80 Biolabs fully funded by Russia, and Russia was helping them develop nuclear weapons... what would the US do?

    They invaded Iraq knowing full well the claims of WMDs was bogus, why would they not invade when there is hard evidence?

    Sounds like Russia needs to start investing in Bio weapons because it is clear the US never stopped.

    Covid is clearly a bio weapon developed in China in a US funded Bio weapons lab... that everyone ignores... perhaps if it was Chinese funded it would be a crime...

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    Post  kvs Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:06 am

    Patton is an American myth. He was fighting second rate German forces and was still experiencing big losses. Hitler did not send
    his best forces to the western front. They were full of the sort of people that Zelensky is pushing into the Ukr army and paramilitary
    units. The Germans also diverted important military hardware to the eastern front. Finally as Garry pointed out, the German troops
    on the western front surrendered much easier than on the eastern front.

    I have seen analysis of America's performance in Korea and Vietnam and it does not paint them in the miraculous light that they see
    themselves in all the time. But America does have one "advantage" and that is lemmings all around the world swallow the myth of
    its superiority. Meanwhile we have bitching in the Ukr war thread that Russia is underperforming in less than two weeks of fighting.
    Russia did not spend 40-70 days carpet bombing Banderastan like Americans bombed Serbia and Iraq.


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    Post  TMA1 Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:28 am

    I have never witnessed such a propaganda blitz as this in my life. Frankly its terrifying. All the more shows me that my country has been hijacked by very malevolent people. Doesnt matter the political persuasion. All bad.

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    Post  andalusia Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:38 am

    GarryB wrote:

    I was on another website and there were Americans who were itching for a war with Russia.  They are some Americans who say that the US should have done what Patton suggested an attacked the USSR when they had the opportunity in 1945.  I know you guys are better informed about this topic but what is a good rebuttal?

    They are idiots, Russia wont keep fighting conventionally, if US army units go in to the Ukraine and start fighting for the orcs, Brussels and the Pentagon will glow for months if not years.

    Computer games aside the west does not understand war, for the west it is a game, for Russia it is all about survival.

    Russia is crushing an enormous Orc force with a recon force it normally sends ahead of its main force...

    The politicians in the west didn't listen to Patton because he was a fucking idiot... the west claims to have won the war with D Day, but plenty of those German forces didn't really fight to the death... many actually thought they could surrender to the west and they would fuel up their planes and tanks and head to the eastern front to fight the Soviets.

    Meanwhile the three quarters of the German military on the eastern front fought tooth and nail and were still defeated by the Soviet force that crushed them.

    The only advantage the west had was nuclear weapons and they didn't have that many and the planes that carried them couldn't reach Moscow, so they would be bombing eastern europe with them at best in planes the Soviets could easily shoot down.

    The core issue is lack of respect, most western civilians know very little about Russia... that is obvious because no one has said... hey... about this new round of tougher sanctions that are going to make them do as they are told by the west.... do we really think that is going to work against a country that survived a brutal nazi invasion before and we are threatening it with again?

    If there were Russian supported communist mexicans in Mexico that wanted Texas and California back and you found out they had 80 Biolabs fully funded by Russia, and Russia was helping them develop nuclear weapons... what would the US do?

    They invaded Iraq knowing full well the claims of WMDs was bogus, why would they not invade when there is hard evidence?

    Sounds like Russia needs to start investing in Bio weapons because it is clear the US never stopped.

    Covid is clearly a bio weapon developed in China in a US funded Bio weapons lab... that everyone ignores... perhaps if it was Chinese funded it would be a crime...

    The little knowledge is remember in school and some research on the net this was my response:

    "I doubt that the Allies would have agreed on an attack like this. Britain and France were exhausted, so it would have been the USA alone. The Russians would have been on the defensive once again and probably would have experienced a moral boost from that."

    He agreed with my statement but said it would have been worth the sacrifice.


    I don't think you guys realize that a lot of Americans don't like Russia because many Americans hate Communism, Marxism and Socialism.
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    Post  flamming_python Wed Mar 09, 2022 6:00 pm

    TMA1 wrote:I have never witnessed such a propaganda blitz as this in my life. Frankly its terrifying. All the more shows me that my country has been hijacked by very malevolent people. Doesnt matter the political persuasion. All bad.

    It's the agony of the end. Putin said it best recently - the 'empire of lies'

    They would have never launched such a shock & awe propaganda and economic attack, exposing all their cards, agents and instruments, and tried to blackmail the rest of the world into supporting them - or receiving sanctions too; unless they were well and truly desperate

    If they carry on like this the West will fragment apart, as the rest of the world tells them to f*ck off and China emerges as the new diplomatic centre

    If they calm down a bit and focus on their own resources and population rather than trying to impose their will on the rest of the world, then they can steadily consolidate into a powerful authoritarian anti-Russian, white nationalist bloc that can pose a huge threat

    If they now shift their policy and encourage the Ukraine to come to a deal with Russia, then they will be able to maintain globalism for a little longer yet, albeit considerably weakened, and with nothing to employ against China.


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