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    Post  GarryB Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:52 am

    more of the known suspects evacuating their citizens..

    Hopefully escorted at gunpoint and in restraints...
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    Post  Backman Sat Jan 08, 2022 4:17 am

    Airbornewolf wrote:
    Backman wrote:
    Airbornewolf wrote:In the context of NATO support "colour" revolutions, i wanted to share this.

    My intention with this is to illustrate how disgusting "Western backed "demonstrators"" reallly are for everyone to see.
    And how it should be opposed at every level.
    It does not matter if it is Ukraine in 2014, or Kazachstan of 2022. they are all the same.


    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LoScJmLaF_je3lg9W8tTFeJduOAQUCBR/view?usp=sharing

    That looks exactly like Ukraine in 2014. The color revolutionaries are trained to do exactly that. They are trained to catch police on fire and beat their shield tactics. There is a Russian documentary about this.

    So this as without a doubt , the Ukraine model being put to work by the US


    Im sorry if i did not describe it clearly, the footage is from Ukraine 2014.
    What happened in Kazachstan with Police units is exactly the same in regard to violence used in ukraine.

    Ah ok. Hopefully more footage of the first 2 days of carnage will get posted and well be able to compare the tactics used more closely
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    Post  Airbornewolf Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:02 am

    Backman wrote:
    Airbornewolf wrote:
    Backman wrote:
    Airbornewolf wrote:In the context of NATO support "colour" revolutions, i wanted to share this.

    My intention with this is to illustrate how disgusting "Western backed "demonstrators"" reallly are for everyone to see.
    And how it should be opposed at every level.
    It does not matter if it is Ukraine in 2014, or Kazachstan of 2022. they are all the same.


    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LoScJmLaF_je3lg9W8tTFeJduOAQUCBR/view?usp=sharing

    That looks exactly like Ukraine in 2014. The color revolutionaries are trained to do exactly that. They are trained to catch police on fire and beat their shield tactics. There is a Russian documentary about this.

    So this as without a doubt , the Ukraine model being put to work by the US


    Im sorry if i did not describe it clearly, the footage is from Ukraine 2014.
    What happened in Kazachstan with Police units is exactly the same in regard to violence used in ukraine.

    Ah ok. Hopefully more footage of the first 2 days of carnage will get posted and well be able to compare  the tactics used more closely

    Agreed Wink.

    At least with the internet/communication blackout now in Kazachstan we are sure the NATO puppet masters can not receive and send communications either.

    ..huh...its like the CSTO seen this before somewhere? ..and learned their lesson?.

    *Meanwhile,...Jens Stolentberg chewing his tie and constantly clicking refresh on his browser*

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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:01 am


    Over 3000 perps arrested and counting, hopefully it will go well into 5 digits, every single shithead needs to be tracked down and locked up/put down

    https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/7354625.html

    More info in link for Russian speakers, let us know if there's something else interesting there

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    Post  mnztr Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:55 am

    Airbornewolf wrote:
    Backman wrote:
    Airbornewolf wrote:
    Backman wrote:
    Airbornewolf wrote:In the context of NATO support "colour" revolutions, i wanted to share this.

    My intention with this is to illustrate how disgusting "Western backed "demonstrators"" reallly are for everyone to see.
    And how it should be opposed at every level.
    It does not matter if it is Ukraine in 2014, or Kazachstan of 2022. they are all the same.


    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LoScJmLaF_je3lg9W8tTFeJduOAQUCBR/view?usp=sharing

    That looks exactly like Ukraine in 2014. The color revolutionaries are trained to do exactly that. They are trained to catch police on fire and beat their shield tactics. There is a Russian documentary about this.

    So this as without a doubt , the Ukraine model being put to work by the US


    Im sorry if i did not describe it clearly, the footage is from Ukraine 2014.
    What happened in Kazachstan with Police units is exactly the same in regard to violence used in ukraine.

    Ah ok. Hopefully more footage of the first 2 days of carnage will get posted and well be able to compare  the tactics used more closely

    Agreed Wink.

    At least with the internet/communication blackout now in Kazachstan we are sure the NATO puppet masters can not receive and send communications either.

    ..huh...its like the CSTO seen this before somewhere? ..and learned their lesson?.

    *Meanwhile,...Jens Stolentberg chewing his tie and constantly clicking refresh on his browser*


    THey would have SATcom as well so you'd have to jam that.
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    Post  Airbornewolf Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:02 am

    mnztr wrote:
    Airbornewolf wrote:
    Backman wrote:
    Airbornewolf wrote:
    Backman wrote:
    Airbornewolf wrote:In the context of NATO support "colour" revolutions, i wanted to share this.

    My intention with this is to illustrate how disgusting "Western backed "demonstrators"" reallly are for everyone to see.
    And how it should be opposed at every level.
    It does not matter if it is Ukraine in 2014, or Kazachstan of 2022. they are all the same.


    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LoScJmLaF_je3lg9W8tTFeJduOAQUCBR/view?usp=sharing

    That looks exactly like Ukraine in 2014. The color revolutionaries are trained to do exactly that. They are trained to catch police on fire and beat their shield tactics. There is a Russian documentary about this.

    So this as without a doubt , the Ukraine model being put to work by the US


    Im sorry if i did not describe it clearly, the footage is from Ukraine 2014.
    What happened in Kazachstan with Police units is exactly the same in regard to violence used in ukraine.

    Ah ok. Hopefully more footage of the first 2 days of carnage will get posted and well be able to compare  the tactics used more closely

    Agreed Wink.

    At least with the internet/communication blackout now in Kazachstan we are sure the NATO puppet masters can not receive and send communications either.

    ..huh...its like the CSTO seen this before somewhere? ..and learned their lesson?.

    *Meanwhile,...Jens Stolentberg chewing his tie and constantly clicking refresh on his browser*


    THey would have SATcom as well so you'd have to jam that.

    In afghanistan 2006, we where able to jam any Irridium phones in an whide radius. i am sure the russians can do this as well.
    The jamming process can be done either by "blinding" the sattelite directly, or by creating an "bubble" of EW interfernce from the EW vehicle itself.

    We used this on our own vehicles as well, to prevent remote I.E.D detonations in Afghanistan.

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    Post  jhelb Sat Jan 08, 2022 9:49 am

    Russia should re take Kazakhstan. That's the best possible thing to do to keep both NATO and China away from Kazakhstan. It will also secure the future of Kazakhstan.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sat Jan 08, 2022 10:28 am

    jhelb wrote:Russia should re take Kazakhstan. That's the best possible thing to do to keep both NATO and China away from Kazakhstan. It will also secure the future of Kazakhstan.

    I couldn't imagine anything more ill conceived and counter-productive than to forcibly intervene against the Kazakh government (or people) in such a manner. It would be a propaganda bonanza for the Neocons and Eurotrash Atlantacists of all stripes, an answer to their dreams...  Suspect

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    Post  nomadski Sat Jan 08, 2022 10:33 am


    Some cases are clear . A hospital should be available to the public . Same as electrical power . Some cases are not clear . A TV station , in the hands of one group as opposed to another . My initial thoughts as far as peacekeeping force is concerned , is to only act in areas , where they are certain and clear as to the benefits of their action . It is now more important , to do no harm at all , than to do the greater good .
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    Post  AZ-5 Sat Jan 08, 2022 10:53 am

    details on where the csto force has setup shop.

    Venkatesh Ragupathi (@venkatesh_Ragu) Tweeted:
    Places under the control of the #Russian troops in #Kazakhstan, Currently:

    ▪Nursultan & Almaty airports
    ▪Telecentre
    ▪Air Defense Hdquarters
    ▪Nursultan
    ▪602 base
    ▪Shymkent
    ▪Ust-Kamenogorsk
    ▪Kazatomprom
    ▪TSSN Senezh
    ▪Presidential Palace Nursultan
    ▪Aktau port

    twitter.com/venkatesh_Ragu

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    Post  Arrow Sat Jan 08, 2022 10:57 am

    jhelb wrote:Russia should re take Kazakhstan. That's the best possible thing to do to keep both NATO and China away from Kazakhstan. It will also secure the future of Kazakhstan.


    Following the coup attempt, Russian influence in Kazakhstan will increase significantly.

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    Post  AZ-5 Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:12 am

    cleaning house already..

    Kazakhstan detains former national security chief on suspicion of treason

    ALMATY, Jan 8 (Reuters) - Authorities in Kazakhstan have detained Karim Massimov, the former head of the national security committee, on suspicion of treason, the security committee said on Saturday. Massimov, who was fired this week as protests raged across the Central Asian country, was detained along with several other officials, the National Security Committee said in a statement. It did not name them or provide further details. Reuters was unable immediately to contact Massimov.

    reuters.com


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    Post  Arrow Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:24 am

    The beginning of the year has been very good for Russia. They showed again how efficient their army and logistical capabilities are. Kazakhstan was to plunge into confusion and it is in the full embrace of Russia. Laughing

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    Post  AZ-5 Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:40 am

    blast from the past, might put some sense into why all that happened..

    Ouster of Dariga Nazarbayeva as speaker of Kazakhstan’s Senate

    May 3, 2020

    The ouster of Dariga Nazarbayeva from her constitutionally important post as speaker of Kazakhstan’s Senate came as a surprise. Close scrutiny of events in recent weeks, however, reveals hints of some tumult behind the scenes. It is probably useful to point out first, though, that the job of chairing the upper house of parliament is truly important for only one reason. If the president, currently Kassym-Jomart Tokayev, should suddenly quit his job or become incapacitated or even die, the Senate speaker takes over.

    eurasianet.org

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    Post  Scorpius Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:51 am

    jhelb wrote:Russia should re take Kazakhstan. That's the best possible thing to do to keep both NATO and China away from Kazakhstan. It will also secure the future of Kazakhstan.

    What for? Russia, I hope, will not annex any regions without a properly implemented referendum. We don't need to worry about maintaining a multimillion-dollar region filled with hostile populations.

    As has been said many times, including by me at this forum, Russia does not need new territories. Russia needs a belt of friendly developed border states with which it is possible to trade and develop joint cooperation in the field of security.

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    Post  Scorpius Sat Jan 08, 2022 12:06 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Over 3000 perps arrested and counting, hopefully it will go well into 5 digits, every single shithead needs to be tracked down and locked up/put down

    https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/7354625.html

    More info in link for Russian speakers, let us know if there's something else interesting there

    - The authorities warn that trained snipers of terrorists are operating in the city.
    - Tokayev announced that the operation in Alma-Ata would go on until the complete extermination of all militants. Regarding the question of whether they are protesters or not, everything is simple here - a group of unidentified persons has been conducting an organized shooting battle with the police, the guard and the army of Kazakhstan for the 3rd day, who are suffering losses in killed and wounded. Accordingly, the main task is the physical destruction of the enemy who captured part of the city center.


    For today, the resource of the CSTO (Collective Security Treaty Organization) is involved. The collective rapid reaction Forces for the Central Asian region of this structure (CSR CAR) number about 5,000 people and include the following forces:

    1. Russia - three battalions (from the 98th Airborne Division (VDD) and the 31st Airborne Brigade (VDBR) Airborne forces, but in fact, apparently more (since in total it accounts for more than 75% and 3800 people of the CSR of the CAR);
    2. Belarus - a battalion deployed on the basis of the peacekeeping company of the 103rd Airborne Brigade of special purpose (300 people);
    3. Armenia - battalion (300 people);
    4. Tajikistan is formally a battalion (300 people), but in fact it has three battalions of mobile troops that can be involved as part of the CSDB (900 people);
    5. Kyrgyzstan is formally a battalion (less than 300 people), in fact the entire 25th special purpose brigade "Scorpion" (800 people).

    As of yesterday (i.e., as a result of the deployment on January 6-7, 2022), the following forces were deployed in the Kazakh direction:

    1. Russia - 3,000 people (mainly units of the 98th Airborne Forces, 31st and 45 Airborne Brigades), 75 VTA aircraft were transferred;
    2. Tajikistan - 200 people;
    3. Kyrgyzstan - 150 people from the 25th brigade of the SPN "Scorpion";
    4. Belarus - 100 people (peacekeeping company of the 103rd brigade). Almost half of the Belarusian Il-76 cash is involved in the transfer (5 out of 11);
    5. Armenia - 100 (previously stated about 70) people.

    TOTAL: 3,550 (3,600 declared) and 80 VTA aircraft. 2,500 of them have already arrived on January 6. It is worth noting that these indicators do not seem to include the personnel of the supporting units and the BTA carrying out the transportation. With it, the number of people involved in the operation can be even higher.

    In the coming days, these forces can be brought to the following indicators:

    1. Russia - up to 5,000 people (contradictory information is received about sending an additional battalion of the 55th Mountain Brigade, the 11th engineering Brigade, separate companies of special forces of the Airborne Forces and the GRU to Kazakhstan);
    2. Tajikistan (if it introduces all its peacekeeping forces) - up to 900 people;
    3. Kyrgyzstan (if it uses its entire 25th spn brigade) - up to 800 people;
    4. Belarus (when deploying a peacekeeping company to a battalion) - up to 300 people;
    5. Armenia (when deploying a peacekeeping company to a battalion) - up to 300 people.
    total: (without VTA personnel and supporting forces) - up to 7,300 people (that is, it may actually double).

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    Post  nomadski Sat Jan 08, 2022 12:12 pm

    @ AZ-5

    Good to see where CSTO is based . As well as having blue arm band . Then no claim can be made against them . I do not understand the nature of all these sites . But presidential palace is probably the seat of government . I think in this case local forces should protect it . Because people will claim CSTO is kingmaker ! And make government even less popular . IF palace attacked , by internal opposition of their own accord and by strength of their own hand ,  it is Kazakh internal business . In fact this or worse can happen , such as ethnic conflict . Still no preference should be given to one side or other .

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    Post  flamming_python Sat Jan 08, 2022 12:20 pm

    kvs wrote:Nazarbayev was a traitor to the people of Kazakhstan.  He was a dictator pushing his pro-west agenda on them.
    He was a moron as well since playing footsie with the west does not secure power, it exposes you to regime change.
    You help the west infiltrate its influence in your country and then they get rid of you to install a more dedicated
    bootlick.  


    Nazarbayev was trying to keep himself in power first and foremost I suspect.

    I think what happened was, that the Kazakh elites started to steadily divide between those favouring Eurasian integration, and those favouring Western integration.
    Nazarbayev accommodated both sides, bringing Tokayev in as the president to represent the pro-Russian faction (Tokayev BTW is a fluent speaker of Mandarin Chinese as well), while also leaving the pro-Western elites to increase their activity

    In this capacity he therefore stepped into the role of a mediator and had a secure position for himself and his family

    But of course now in his 80s, his time was coming to an end and so the elites broke out into open conflict, one part of them drawing on the West for support, and the other part eliciting Russian assistance.
    While the pro-West elite's instruments and protests called for Nazarbayev to be deposed, the pro-Russian elites didn't scream about it - but actually did depose him. And since the opposition rhetoric was only about getting rid of Nazarbayev, they've worked themselves into a corner with their rhetoric.


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    Post  AZ-5 Sat Jan 08, 2022 12:20 pm

    nomadski wrote:@ AZ-5

    Good to see where CSTO is based . As well as having blue arm band . Then no claim can be made against them . I do not understand the nature of all these sites . But presidential palace is probably the seat of government . I think in this case local forces should protect it . Because people will claim CSTO is kingmaker ! And make government even less popular . IF palace attacked , by internal opposition of their own accord and by strength of their own hand ,  it is Kazakh internal business . In fact this or worse can happen , such as ethnic conflict . Still no preference should be given to one side or other .

    I doubt they've setup tactical positions in the palace.
    I'd think they've sent some comms contact relay team to have 24-7 direct channel with the President.

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    Post  AZ-5 Sat Jan 08, 2022 12:26 pm

    Scorpius wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Over 3000 perps arrested and counting, hopefully it will go well into 5 digits, every single shithead needs to be tracked down and locked up/put downl

    More info in link for Russian speakers, let us know if there's something else interesting there

    - The authorities warn that trained snipers of terrorists are operating in the city.
    - Tokayev announced that the operation in Alma-Ata would go on until the complete extermination of all militants. Regarding the question of whether they are protesters or not, everything is simple here - a group of unidentified persons has been conducting an organized shooting battle with the police, the guard and the army of Kazakhstan for the 3rd day, who are suffering losses in killed and wounded. Accordingly, the main task is the physical destruction of the enemy who captured part of the city center.


    For today, the resource of the CSTO (Collective Security Treaty Organization) is involved. The collective rapid reaction Forces for the Central Asian region of this structure (CSR CAR) number about 5,000 people and include the following forces:

    1. Russia - three battalions (from the 98th Airborne Division (VDD) and the 31st Airborne Brigade (VDBR) Airborne forces, but in fact, apparently more (since in total it accounts for more than 75% and 3800 people of the CSR of the CAR);
    2. Belarus - a battalion deployed on the basis of the peacekeeping company of the 103rd Airborne Brigade of special purpose (300 people);
    3. Armenia - battalion (300 people);
    4. Tajikistan is formally a battalion (300 people), but in fact it has three battalions of mobile troops that can be involved as part of the CSDB (900 people);
    5. Kyrgyzstan is formally a battalion (less than 300 people), in fact the entire 25th special purpose brigade "Scorpion" (800 people).

    As of yesterday (i.e., as a result of the deployment on January 6-7, 2022), the following forces were deployed in the Kazakh direction:

    1. Russia - 3,000 people (mainly units of the 98th Airborne Forces, 31st and 45 Airborne Brigades), 75 VTA aircraft were transferred;
    2. Tajikistan - 200 people;
    3. Kyrgyzstan - 150 people from the 25th brigade of the SPN "Scorpion";
    4. Belarus - 100 people (peacekeeping company of the 103rd brigade). Almost half of the Belarusian Il-76 cash is involved in the transfer (5 out of 11);
    5. Armenia - 100 (previously stated about 70) people.

    TOTAL: 3,550 (3,600 declared) and 80 VTA aircraft. 2,500 of them have already arrived on January 6. It is worth noting that these indicators do not seem to include the personnel of the supporting units and the BTA carrying out the transportation. With it, the number of people involved in the operation can be even higher.

    In the coming days, these forces can be brought to the following indicators:

    1. Russia - up to 5,000 people (contradictory information is received about sending an additional battalion of the 55th Mountain Brigade, the 11th engineering Brigade, separate companies of special forces of the Airborne Forces and the GRU to Kazakhstan);
    2. Tajikistan (if it introduces all its peacekeeping forces) - up to 900 people;
    3. Kyrgyzstan (if it uses its entire 25th spn brigade) - up to 800 people;
    4. Belarus (when deploying a peacekeeping company to a battalion) - up to 300 people;
    5. Armenia (when deploying a peacekeeping company to a battalion) - up to 300 people.
    total: (without VTA personnel and supporting forces) - up to 7,300 people (that is, it may actually double).

    Impressive numbers that.
    Thinking of how huge Kazakhstan is.. this deployment is major for just 1 day. it's brigade-sized formation already on the ground.. so fast.
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    Post  George1 Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:13 pm

    The delivery of the Russian contingent of the CSTO peacekeeping forces to the Zhetygen airfield of the Republic of Kazakhstan continues by the aircraft of the Military Transport Aviation.





    The Belarusian contingent of the CSTO peacekeeping forces was deployed to the Zhetygen airfield of the Republic of Kazakhstan by military transport aircraft.

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:19 pm

    AZ-5 wrote:cleaning house already..

    Kazakhstan detains former national security chief on suspicion of treason

    ALMATY, Jan 8 (Reuters) - Authorities in Kazakhstan have detained Karim Massimov, the former head of the national security committee, on suspicion of treason, the security committee said on Saturday. Massimov, who was fired this week as protests raged across the Central Asian country, was detained along with several other officials, the National Security Committee said in a statement. It did not name them or provide further details. Reuters was unable immediately to contact Massimov.

    reuters.com

    It is a really, really bad idea to initiate a coup and then fail.

    My instinct is that the Turks and MI6 (their new boss is an expert in the area, was an Ambassador there, and is close to the Turks) are the sharp end of this attempted colour revolution. Time will tell.

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    Post  AZ-5 Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:19 pm

    @L_Team10
    Heavy large circleFlag of Kazakhstan#Kazakhstan:In #Almaty, Unkown fired at the feet of the Dozhd TV reporters.
    We can verify which side has fired against the journalist

    link: twitter.com/mediazona_ca/status/1479776634752413699?s=20

    strange video, is this Kz police?  scratch
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    Post  franco Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:44 pm

    NOTE: reported Russian peacekeeping units and their locations. Apparently units from the 15th Motor Rifle and 3rd Spetsnaz are also arriving in country.

    A curious message appeared in the telegram channel of the Photojournalist's Notes - https://t.me/Army_Russia/12064
    What facilities in Kazakhstan are currently under the control of Russian troops

    98 Airborne Division:
    Nursultan Airport
    General Staff Building
    TV Center

    45 Airborne Brigade:
    Almaty Airport
    Air Defense Headquarters
    Nursultan
    602 base
    Shymkent

    31 Airborne Brigade:
    Ust-Kamenogorsk
    Kazatomprom

    CSN Senezh
    Nursultan Presidential Palace
    Central Bank of the KNB

    414th separate Marine Battalion:
    Aktau Port

    Previously, the participation of marine units in the peacekeeping operation was not officially reported anywhere. In the city of Aktau, it seems that the Internet is still disconnected and I have not found any reports of the presence of Russian marines there.

    The 390th Marine Brigade of the Kazakh Navy is stationed in Aktau, but after several cases of handing over weapons to some "civil activists", I think the Kazakh leadership has doubts about the reliability of this compound.

    https://altyn73.livejournal.com/2022/01/08/

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    Post  AZ-5 Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:51 pm

    franco wrote:The 390th Marine Brigade of the Kazakh Navy is stationed in Aktau, but after several cases of handing over weapons to some "civil activists", I think the Kazakh leadership has doubts about the reliability of this compound.

    Russian forces are allegedly deployed in the port.
    Aktau also has decommisioned nucl. facility but also western oil giants keep megabases there (huge facilities).

    confirm news:


    International Leaks
    @Internl_Leaks 3h
    According to the unconfirmed reports, The port of Aktau was taken under protection by the forces of the 414th separate guards battalion of the marines of the Caspian flotilla of the Russian Navy.

    #Almaty #Aktau #KazakhstanProtest #Kazakh #Kazakhstan

    Georgi Papadopoulos
    @GeorgiPapadopo3 1h
    Some soldiers continued to join the protesters in Aktau today. Kazakhstan youtu.be/tIDR7KdCEn4

    via @YouTube

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