Banderite vermin are going to have to concoct a new Ukr holocaust myth. Those vile moskals are clearly starving poor Ukrs today. No jobs, food and heat. Must be Russia's fault. Could never be the fault of the NATzO installed stooges who worship Stepan Bandera.
Aside from the endless hate and war against Russia, what have the Banderite clowns in Kiev achieved since 2014? Nothing. And to answer the usual apologists: their idea of European democratic values is to shut down all the real opposition parties and mass media. Not a squeak about that from NATzO.
Sorry but you are all wrong. Debt doesn’t matter to the person who owns the bank and can lend himself endless money. There is no political divide. It’s just trump vs the establishment. Even if republicans take back the house/senate they will still vote in unison for Russia sanctions or Ukraine interventions.
American elites don’t care about ghetto niggers in big cities. They have grander designs for the world.
If Russia could eject nato off its borders they would have done it along time ago.
Not at all, it is an unguided rocket inside a single use launcher with a targeting sight that adjusts the aiming point after a few seconds following of a moving target. There is a whole new nomenclature used to describe it, that is "immune to countermeasures" - this voo doo applies to the fact, that it is just a rocket flying straight forward.
And by the way, the tube is non reusable
So in a sense it is like an unguided rocket that adds its own lead for a moving target... you follow the target and then fire and it continues to allow for the further movement of the target in its flight to the target... so if the target stops or changes speed or direction the rocket misses.
So it is a standard unguided RPG that you don't need to lead the target for... so 22K pounds for a simpler scope reticule and simpler training.
Russia is weak and backed into a corner.
Russia was weak in the 1990s and the west forgot it existed... Russia is now strong and they continue to push it and try to contain it.
NATO is run by mad men but they are smart and have almost every advantage.
HATO is screwed up and their economies are falling around them.... Russia dipped a little into its reserves for Covid but is back to topping its reserves up and continues to balance its budget, and upgrade its military and infrastructure... most of the west just borrowed more money and are tits deep in debt...
HATO needs a war.
Russia could care less about Ukraine, this isn't about Ukraine, but about HATO expansion.
Losing the eastern bloc and now Ukraine was/is devastating for Russia.
Devastating in what sense?
Most of the stuff Russia was buying from the Ukraine they now make themselves... and mostly improved models of higher quality manufacture in modern factories and made of better source materials... why wait till they import substituted everything Ukraine sold to them on a regular basis... surely you invade Ukraine and take it back so you don't have to go through the time and effort to make your own engines and ship propulsion systems.
Except now they don't need to find US dollars to buy engines from Motor Sich or anything else from that country.
As the usage of US dollars declines the position of the US dollar will diminish and printing money will cause massive inflation like it does in any other country and then you will wish you paid attention to the situation a bit earlier... because every year and every trillion more in debt just makes the solutions harder and more painful.
PS Stop getting your information about Russia from CNN.
Sorry but you are all wrong. Debt doesn’t matter to the person who owns the bank and can lend himself endless money. There is no political divide
Your understanding of how money works is amusing.... a person who owns a bank and lends himself endless money eventually finds himself in jail... or his customers whose money it is that he is borrowing might just lynch him in the street.
BTW
Blinken begging weak cornered Russia? Sounds a bit odd doesn't it?
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No the US does not just randomly print money without repercussion. There is serious divide in the elite, that's why there was a revolt in the capitol building and in the White House fires.
The US government is badly divided with characters like Joe Manchin, Sinema, Donald Trump, Rand Paul, Aoc, nancy Pelosi, Ted cruz and various other funny characters.
America is in a state of tight repression on its social media and media platforms.
Hundreds of people were arrested for peaceful protests.
The democrats are distracting from internal problems with this clown show.
In few months none of this will matter when Democrats are overthrown and it will be back to 2016 times
Russia does not have those bouts of instability changing every 4 years.
For them it's a matter of timing actions with the American schizophrenia.
In 4 years time, trump is back and dismantling NATO for Russia. Then 4 years later dems will be back rattling Sabres.
In all it doesnt change much strategically. Crimea being Russian control the black sea.
Holding Kiev does nothing.
And the Russian economy has no dollars, its insulated from global shock. That's why sanctions dont make an effect like with China evergrande or with EU gas turmoil.
Russia is the most stable economy in the world today
NATzO has been making one own goal after another. In 1999 their gang rape of Serbia precipitated the fall of Yeltsin and the take over by Putin. In 2014 their sanctions finally broke the log jam of economic distortions introduced by Yeltsin. This included reliance on food imports from the west and import of components in critical systems such as satellites. This is why NATzO was so cocksure that its sanctions against composite materials would kill the MS-21 project.
Now NATzO is trying to instigate an ethnic cleansing campaign against the Donbass by the lunatics in Kiev and is hoping to corner Russia after it responds. Instead we will see the partitioning of Ukria into the sane part and the demented western part that can go and join NATzO to give them so much value.
Yankees have been printing money since the 70s. It’s how they beat the Soviet Union. No one has gone to jail or got lynched yet.
Yes... printing money is their go to solution, but that only works when other countries accept US dollars... how long can that possibly continue... would you accept payment of debt in a currency the debtor just prints more of when they need more money?
Pretty soon you are going to recognise that money is useless... especially as more and more countries refuse to accept it for buying their stuff, and then there will be a panic where countries who are owed lots of money suddenly realise if they just print a batch to pay off their debt what if no one else accepts their junk money... you delivered real products or services and they pay you in monopoly money... of course you are going to demand payment in Euros or gold or something else that actually has a value... then what happens is like what happened in Germany when they suffered from hyperinflation... children were making kites out of million deuchmark notes because the paper the money is printed on is worth more than the denomination.
Women would take bundles of cash in wheel barrows to buy a single loaf of bread... get it today because tomorrow you need even more money for that loaf.
2 propaganda trolls going at it with other damage control trolls dropping likes
What damage?
When the west rejects Russia and any future potential for partnership with Russia in anything Russia is going to reorient itself to the rest of the world... Russia will still sell gas to the EU but on Russian terms of not at all, and the EU wont be a high priority so if sending gas to China and the EU and there is not enough then China will get priority... because they will be the ones with the long term contracts.
This is Russia growing up.
On the India Russia thread Jhelb mentions several times about the crazy situation where young Indians and young Vietnamese people look to America like it is the best place on the planet, but as Jhelb mentions himself... the west couldn't give a shit about anyone but themselves... the youth of Russia have the exact same problem with both America and the EU...
This looks like a pivotal point where it might actually change...
Ukraine should rather concentrate on improving its economy instead of picking a fight with Russia. A major reason behind Ukraine's economic backwardness is rampant corruption. Transparency International is a CIA run organization. The West considers Ukraine to be an ally (albeit expendable) and India to be a foe/competitor.
Even then in Transparency's corruption index India is ranked 86 and Ukraine is ranked 117.
I suspect the level of Western influence in your country directly affects corruption. The greater the influence the more the corruption.
Heard about the Radio transmission of pulses , probably for submarines at sea , saying all is well signal . Good to see , a readiness to respond in kind to possible stationing of Nukes near Russia . A direct and proportional response to immediate problems . Also if population of Russian speakers is further being attacked or displaced , then difficult to ignore or keep away . Will drag Russia in , I think . The extremists , in order to stay in power in Ukraine , need this confrontation and will start ethnic conflict . In this case , then protecting such communities becomes immediate problem , and needs a proportional response . The extremists should be identified and confronted , and not the vast majority of Ukraine people or Army . The Nazi seed in Ukraine , and not any democratic movement , is the cause of the problem !
German naval chief in New Delhi fielding questions about the ongoing crisis between Russia and NATO
"we need Russia because we need Russia against China...From my perspective, I’m a very radical Roman Catholic. I’m believing in God & I believe in Christianity. & there we have a Christian country; even Putin, he’s an atheist but it doesn't matter."
I heard on BBC world service today , that Latvia and Estonia and Lithuania are trying to send " artillery " or failing that " mobile field Hospital " to Ukraine ! I wonder why the Soviet union , even bothered to save these Rats from the Nazis ? You'd think they should be grateful ! It seems to be an East European Fascistic problem . Even worst than West Europeans . Still the British have said , that in case of hostilities breaking out , they will abandon posts and leave !!
Sujoy wrote:German naval chief in New Delhi fielding questions about the ongoing crisis between Russia and NATO
"we need Russia because we need Russia against China...From my perspective, I’m a very radical Roman Catholic. I’m believing in God & I believe in Christianity. & there we have a Christian country; even Putin, he’s an atheist but it doesn't matter."
...sad. old Catholic germans are some of the greatest, most patriotic of german stock. ww2 ace Molders was the same vein. I wonder if the libs in government will try to get rid of him.
The Armed Forces of Ukraine are transferring Buk-M1 anti-aircraft missile systems to the border with the Republic of Belarus on the eve of the large-scale Russian-Belarusian exercises "Allied Resolve - 2022", which will be held on the territory of the Republic of Belarus.
https://t.me/new_militarycolumnist/69609
The video shows a Buk launcher with the number 312.
The Kiev regime Buk systems likely to have been used to shoot down MH17 was spotted near the Belorus border. It has the number 312. It is unlikely that the number was recycled for another system since Ukria does not produce or buy Buk systems.
It is plausible that the regime is trying to use it again for the same purpose. The yanquis have preemptively laundered regime false flag operations by accusing Russia of trying to stage them. As we saw with MH17, the NATzO fake stream media is all prime to go with the story that Russia shot down an airliner to frame the poor victims in Kiev.
Yankees have been printing money since the 70s. It’s how they beat the Soviet Union. No one has gone to jail or got lynched yet.
Yes... printing money is their go to solution, but that only works when other countries accept US dollars... how long can that possibly continue... would you accept payment of debt in a currency the debtor just prints more of when they need more money?
Pretty soon you are going to recognise that money is useless... especially as more and more countries refuse to accept it for buying their stuff, and then there will be a panic where countries who are owed lots of money suddenly realise if they just print a batch to pay off their debt what if no one else accepts their junk money... you delivered real products or services and they pay you in monopoly money... of course you are going to demand payment in Euros or gold or something else that actually has a value... then what happens is like what happened in Germany when they suffered from hyperinflation... children were making kites out of million deuchmark notes because the paper the money is printed on is worth more than the denomination.
Women would take bundles of cash in wheel barrows to buy a single loaf of bread... get it today because tomorrow you need even more money for that loaf.
2 propaganda trolls going at it with other damage control trolls dropping likes
What damage?
When the west rejects Russia and any future potential for partnership with Russia in anything Russia is going to reorient itself to the rest of the world... Russia will still sell gas to the EU but on Russian terms of not at all, and the EU wont be a high priority so if sending gas to China and the EU and there is not enough then China will get priority... because they will be the ones with the long term contracts.
This is Russia growing up.
On the India Russia thread Jhelb mentions several times about the crazy situation where young Indians and young Vietnamese people look to America like it is the best place on the planet, but as Jhelb mentions himself... the west couldn't give a shit about anyone but themselves... the youth of Russia have the exact same problem with both America and the EU...
This looks like a pivotal point where it might actually change...
People keep talking about this cataclysm that’s supposed to occur forever ago when the dollar becomes worthless and no one wants it anymore. I’m still waiting. When will it happen in 10 years? 20? 30? 40? 50? A hundred years? By the time it happens Russia might not even exist as a state if NATO gets their way.
People have been saying the same things you are saying since the 1970s when all of this started but guess what? America is still top dog and everyone is still scared shitless when the america brings the pain with their economic warfare.
And America currently is the best place on the planet. It has the most opportunity for someone who is young and hardworking.
More than broke, sinking deeper into debt as the money printing ramps up. Now there is rampant inflation and a really serious food supply problem about to hit. It is a catastrophe waiting for the final straw.
This is why the USG is putting so much pressure on Ukraine. They need a war and an excuse to hit at Russia to distract their population. So they are telling Kiev to not act by the terms of the Minsk Protocol but to take Donbas by force, in the knowledge that they will be crushed, with no doubt a safety net for the leaders. This will be blamed on the Russians probably with a US organised false flag.
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Yankees have been printing money since the 70s. It’s how they beat the Soviet Union. No one has gone to jail or got lynched yet.
Yes... printing money is their go to solution, but that only works when other countries accept US dollars... how long can that possibly continue... would you accept payment of debt in a currency the debtor just prints more of when they need more money?
Pretty soon you are going to recognise that money is useless... especially as more and more countries refuse to accept it for buying their stuff, and then there will be a panic where countries who are owed lots of money suddenly realise if they just print a batch to pay off their debt what if no one else accepts their junk money... you delivered real products or services and they pay you in monopoly money... of course you are going to demand payment in Euros or gold or something else that actually has a value... then what happens is like what happened in Germany when they suffered from hyperinflation... children were making kites out of million deuchmark notes because the paper the money is printed on is worth more than the denomination.
Women would take bundles of cash in wheel barrows to buy a single loaf of bread... get it today because tomorrow you need even more money for that loaf.
2 propaganda trolls going at it with other damage control trolls dropping likes
What damage?
When the west rejects Russia and any future potential for partnership with Russia in anything Russia is going to reorient itself to the rest of the world... Russia will still sell gas to the EU but on Russian terms of not at all, and the EU wont be a high priority so if sending gas to China and the EU and there is not enough then China will get priority... because they will be the ones with the long term contracts.
This is Russia growing up.
On the India Russia thread Jhelb mentions several times about the crazy situation where young Indians and young Vietnamese people look to America like it is the best place on the planet, but as Jhelb mentions himself... the west couldn't give a shit about anyone but themselves... the youth of Russia have the exact same problem with both America and the EU...
This looks like a pivotal point where it might actually change...
People keep talking about this cataclysm that’s supposed to occur forever ago when the dollar becomes worthless and no one wants it anymore. I’m still waiting. When will it happen in 10 years? 20? 30? 40? 50? A hundred years? By the time it happens Russia might not even exist as a state if NATO gets their way.
People have been saying the same things you are saying since the 1970s when all of this started but guess what? America is still top dog and everyone is still scared shitless when the america brings the pain with their economic warfare.
And America currently is the best place on the planet. It has the most opportunity for someone who is young and hardworking.
Your casual phrase is currently. Under the surface, the wheels are coming off. Cultural America is fracturing. Educationally, the country has progressively dumbed down and relies for its STEM talent on immigration. Economically, standards of living are only supported by debt (living standards financed by the rest of the world) and critically the marginal impact of that debt is decreasing. America is Britain circa 1915. The clock is running out. The difference of course is British elites and American elites were one in the same - "that special relationship". The new elites will not be part of that same lineage. Historically the fading powers do not go lightly into that goodnight.
The American economic cataclysm, is affecting its own population.
Do you know of the generation Y, X, Alpha, these are all lost generations.
They are in huge debts, and cannot afford housing or even to start a family. So they are indoctrinated with LGBT and Woke religion to distract from their destroyed opportunities.
Their predecessors gambled away American power during Iraq wars, and 2008 economic debacle.
The cohort born between 1960 and 1970 are coming into power, and they themselves have gloomy prospects. Most were educated by the so called baby boomer generation, and they learned nothing from previous economic recessions.
If they want to gamble their future on economic casino, it's their call.
For Russia who's youth is winning international physics, chemistry, mathematics beating out the asian states, and who are building quality schooling and such, the future is bright.
The boomers(pensioners) of russia are the past. So are the middle gen between them and the youth.
The youth is the future, that's where russia is putting its eggs
Ukraine is in even worse situation. That country has no future right now.
They have no education, no good companies to employ the youth, and they're own old gen is just dying out.
Chechnya is at a better level than Kiev.
Russia is more focused on developing industry for youth employment.
Right now Gazprom, Novatek, Lukoil, Sberbank, Vtb hiring kids out of MSU, institute of physics and tech, novosibirsk state uni, and so on
If you are studying wood pipe design like in kiev, then yes your best option is to raise the flag of bandera and die in donbass.
For Russia its not so gloomy. Many jobs, military also employing large amounts of professionals, not in infantry, but in signals, engineering, computing, they will have guaranteed jobs at the end of service term.
Agriculture has revived the farms of Russia.
What I want to see are smart phone sanctions , that would be awesome.
Mishutin also could introduce some good Tax and Assurance firms to Moscow, although accounting is a big career in Russia now too.
Overall its not bad except for old pensioners, but money should not be put to them anyway
Edit: no offense to pensioners, I just dont believe the budget should finance their retirement. The youth is more important, they can sustain the elders. Not the other way around.
Sujoy wrote:German naval chief in New Delhi fielding questions about the ongoing crisis between Russia and NATO
"we need Russia because we need Russia against China...From my perspective, I’m a very radical Roman Catholic. I’m believing in God & I believe in Christianity. & there we have a Christian country; even Putin, he’s an atheist but it doesn't matter."
...sad. old Catholic germans are some of the greatest, most patriotic of german stock. ww2 ace Molders was the same vein. I wonder if the libs in government will try to get rid of him.
Sounds like the ravings of a madman...Putin an athiest lmao?!?!?! That clown needs to be locked up in a mental institution!
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That clown needs to be locked up in a mental institution! 