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    Post  Ned86 Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:35 pm

    August 7th. /TASS/. Russian Helicopters produced 296 helicopters in 2022. This was announced by the head of the state corporation "Rostec" Sergei Chemezov at a meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

    "As for the helicopter industry. In 2022, our Russian Helicopters holding produced 296 helicopters. Last year (in 2021 - TASS note) there were 134, this year - 296, a significant increase. This, of course, is primarily due to for an increase in the state defense order," he said.

    https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/18460253


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    Post  Ned86 Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:43 pm

    Ned86 wrote:
    "As for the helicopter industry. In 2022, our Russian Helicopters holding produced 296 helicopters. Last year (in 2021 - TASS note) there were 134, this year - 296, a significant increase. This, of course, is primarily due to for an increase in the state defense order," he said.

    Just want to remind you about this article (was posted somewhere on the forum before) where author was claiming that in 2023
    30+ Ka-52 & 50+ Mi-28 will be prouced produced.
    Well, I was sceptical about those numbers, but after today's confirmation for the last year this could be true indeed.
    The rests would probably be Mi-8s and Mi-17s and fewer of Ansats, Mi-38 and Ka-226.

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    Post  TMA1 Mon Aug 07, 2023 3:41 pm

    Anyone know the total amount of fighter aircraft in service and kind in service? Are wikipedia tier articles correct?
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    Post  Isos Mon Aug 07, 2023 4:36 pm

    TMA1 wrote:Anyone know the total amount of fighter aircraft in service and kind in service? Are wikipedia tier articles correct?

    Wiki must be more or less updated. Keep in mind they lost quite a lot in Ukraine and Syria due to either accidents or AD.

    Very low numbers if you ask me. More or less 100 su-35, 130 su-30, 150 su-34.

    Around 40-50 su-30 for the navy.

    Su-27, mig-29 almost all gone. They have some 48 mig-29SMT but they don't like the plane. Su-24 and su-25 in significant numbers but hard to be precise.

    Probably some 130 mig-31 in service. Target is to keep 90 or so.

    Also 4 mig-35 which are just mig-29M without the aesa radar.

    Few su-57 mostly for training and learning the aircraft.

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    Post  franco Mon Aug 07, 2023 11:05 pm

    This year, Rostec has doubled the production of military aircraft, the head of the state corporation, Sergei Chemezov, said at a meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

    “We, in addition to military and combat aircraft, the production of which, by the way, doubled last year, pay great attention to the production of civil aviation equipment,” he said.

    He stressed that 90% of military equipment is produced at Rostec enterprises , which our military personnel successfully use in the special operation zone. Chemezov explained that we are talking about cannon and rocket artillery, armored vehicles, transport helicopters and combat aircraft, heavy flamethrower systems, small arms, all types of ammunition.

    According to Chemezov, last year the state defense order was completed by 99.5%. He pointed to the growth in the production of military products used by our soldiers in the special operation zone. Putin, in turn, appreciated the high effectiveness of Lancet kamikaze drones against enemy military equipment and announced the need to increase the production of these drones.

    NOTE: - 2022 total of 27 combat aircraft (four Su-30SM2s, ten Su-34Ms, seven Su-35Ss, and six Su-57s) Hopefully more the 60...
    - already announced Mi-28NM production will triple and Ka-52M will double last year production

    https://tvzvezda-ru.translate.goog/news/2023871433-IufKH.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB&_x_tr_pto=nui&_x_tr_hist=true

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    Post  franco Fri Aug 18, 2023 2:22 pm

    Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree on conferring the honorary title "Guards" on the 14th Fighter Aviation Regiment. The document was published on Friday, August 18, on the official portal of legal information.

    The text of the decree states that the title is awarded for "mass heroism and courage, fortitude and courage shown by the personnel of the regiment in combat operations to protect the Fatherland and state interests in armed conflicts."

    The document comes into force from the date of its signing.

    Earlier, on August 9, the head of state congratulated the command and personnel of the 71st motorized rifle regiment on the assignment of the name "Guards" and signed a corresponding decree. According to him, the actions of the fighters of the regiment are an example of the performance of military duty and high professionalism.

    Later, on August 16, the Russian servicemen of the Dnepr group of troops received state awards for services in the special operation zone. In particular, the gunner of the howitzer crew of the 8th Guards Artillery Regiment Daniil Polyakov was awarded the Zhukov medal and the medal "For Combat Distinction".

    https://iz-ru.translate.goog/1561004/2023-08-18/putin-prisvoil-naimenovanie-gvardeiskii-14-istrebitelnomu-aviatcionnomu-polku?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

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    Post  franco Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:55 pm


    MOSCOW, August 23 - RIA Novosti. Chief of the General Staff of the Aerospace Forces, General Viktor Afzalov, has been appointed interim commander-in-chief of the Aerospace Forces of Russia instead of Sergei Surovikin, an informed source told RIA Novosti.

    "The ex-Commander-in-Chief of the Aerospace Forces of Russia Sergey Surovikin has now been relieved of his post, Colonel-General Viktor Afzalov, Chief of the General Staff of the Aerospace Forces, is temporarily acting as Commander-in-Chief of the Aerospace Forces," the source told RIA Novosti. Afzalov was already acting commander-in-chief of the VKS when Surovikin commanded the United Group of Forces in the zone of a special military operation.
    As RBC wrote, citing its sources, Surovikin was relieved of his post due to a transfer to another job, now he is on a short vacation.

    Colonel-General Viktor Afzalov is a graduate of the Pushkin Higher Military School of Air Defense Radio Electronics. In 2000 he graduated from the Air Defense Military University, in 2010 - from the Military Academy of the General Staff. Passed positions from the head of the calculation of the combat control department of the group of anti-aircraft missile divisions of the air defense corps to the chief of staff - first deputy commander of the air force and air defense army. In July 2017, he was appointed commander of the Air Force and Air Defense Army of the Eastern Military District, in August 2018 he received the post of chief of the main headquarters of the Russian Aerospace Forces .

    Sergei Surovikin was appointed Commander-in-Chief of the Aerospace Forces in October 2017. Prior to that, he commanded the Russian group in Syria , and was also the commander of the Eastern Military District. In October 2022, he was appointed commander of the group of forces in the special military operation zone, and in January of this year he became deputy commander.

    https://ria-ru.translate.goog/20230823/afzalova-1891645152.html?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

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    Post  franco Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:57 pm

    MOSCOW, August 23 - RIA Novosti. The United Aviation Corporation (UAC) has received an additional order for the production of combat aircraft to arm the new military districts, Moscow and Leningrad, UAC Director General Yury Slyusar told RIA Novosti.
    Earlier, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said that two new military districts, Moscow and Leningrad, would be created in 2023. With their creation, Russia will strengthen the groupings of troops on its western borders.
    “Under the State Defense Order, we receive an additional order, you know about the plans to create new military districts, form new units, they will also have an aviation component. New tasks are being added to the original plans,” Slyusar said.
    He also recalled that the production of certain types of combat aircraft has increased many times since the beginning of the NMD and is proceeding at a "dramatic pace."

    https://ria-ru.translate.goog/20230823/aviatsiya-1891639450.html?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

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    Post  AMCXXL Wed Aug 23, 2023 5:56 pm

    franco wrote:MOSCOW, August 23 - RIA Novosti. The United Aviation Corporation (UAC) has received an additional order for the production of combat aircraft to arm the new military districts, Moscow and Leningrad, UAC Director General Yury Slyusar told RIA Novosti.
    Earlier, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said that two new military districts, Moscow and Leningrad, would be created in 2023. With their creation, Russia will strengthen the groupings of troops on its western borders.
    “Under the State Defense Order, we receive an additional order, you know about the plans to create new military districts, form new units, they will also have an aviation component. New tasks are being added to the original plans,” Slyusar said.
    He also recalled that the production of certain types of combat aircraft has increased many times since the beginning of the NMD and is proceeding at a "dramatic pace."

    https://ria-ru.translate.goog/20230823/aviatsiya-1891639450.html?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

    i think each fighter regiment, (included the MiG-31 regiments), should receive one Su-35 squadron as 3rd AE, waiting for the Su-57
    This is Belbek, Millerovo, Kursk, Yelizovo, Domna, etc...
    in the photo I posted of KNAAZ there are more that 3 dozens of Su-35 in the production chain
    I think Dzemgi will receive the 2 first squadrons of Su-57 while keeps one squadron of Su-35 for 3rd AE

    for the Leningrad MD is necesary at least a new Su-34 regiment and new figther regiment that could be formed with 1st and 2nd AE with Su-27SM from reserve and the 3rd AE with Su-35

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    Post  limb Wed Aug 30, 2023 9:10 am

    Why cant the russian air force prevent small quadcopter drones destroying aircraft in pskov? Why is it allowing drgs to operate freely 500km from the ukraine border? Why cant there be forbidden areas with infantry patrols and electric fences in a 4 km radius from the airports. 0 russian aircraft were destroyed in hmeimim. Meanwhile on russian soil, strategic aviation assets are being destroyed with impunity.

    Why cant there be russian DRGs destroying ukrainian aircraft in zhitomir or Lvov, if the ukrainians can send their people deep into russian territory?
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    Post  Mir Wed Aug 30, 2023 9:30 am

    limb wrote: Meanwhile on russian soil, strategic aviation assets are being destroyed with impunity.

    So you're saying that the Russian strategic aviation have been virtually eliminated with these type of terrorist attacks? Neutral

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Aug 30, 2023 9:30 am

    A chimp out of a cage warning!!!!!

    AMCXXL wrote:
    in the photo I posted of KNAAZ there are more that 3 dozens of Su-35 in the production chain

    Funny you are mentioning that right now, as we have been struck with the warming news that the Muricans have received a brand new F-15X. The third one, and the first after 2.5 years.


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    Post  limb Wed Aug 30, 2023 9:33 am

    Mir wrote:
    limb wrote: Meanwhile on russian soil, strategic aviation assets are being destroyed with impunity.

    So you're saying that the Russian strategic aviation have been virtually eliminated with these type of terrorist attacks? Neutral  

    4% of the flyable Il-76 was destroyed. Show me an example of ukrainian aircraft being destroyed in zhitomir and Lvov by drgs. Show me an example of C-17s and AC-130s destroyed by taliban in kabul

    A chimp out of a cage warning!!!!!
    The only chimps are in the pskov airbase.
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    Post  Mir Wed Aug 30, 2023 9:38 am

    blimp wrote:

    4% of the flyable Il-76 was destroyed. Show me an example of ukrainian aircraft being destroyed in zhitomir and Lvov by drgs. Show me an example of C-17s and AC-130s destroyed by taliban in kabul

    Perhaps there is nothing left to show...oh yes Kabul - that was embarrassing wasn't it!?

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Aug 30, 2023 9:48 am

    Funny that you mentioned ...
    Just type "ukrainian airfield hit" and check the photo section of Google.
    There is not a single pic of Ukrainian airfields razed to the ground, with multiple planes shredded to pieces, turned upside down, and burned to the last titanium made part left ...
    All are pics from some few Russian planes on fire.
    Fascinating how the Google algorithms fail to understand a simple question ... Because it must be that, right? Embarassed

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    Post  limb Wed Aug 30, 2023 9:55 am

    Mir wrote:
    blimp wrote:

    4% of the flyable Il-76 was destroyed. Show me an example of ukrainian aircraft being destroyed in zhitomir and Lvov by drgs. Show me an example of C-17s and AC-130s destroyed by taliban in kabul

    Perhaps there is nothing left to show...oh yes Kabul - that was embarrassing wasn't it!?

    Not as embarassing as 2 ka-52s then a strategic bomber and now 4 transports getting destroyed deep inside russia.

    There is not a single pic of Ukrainian airfields razed to the ground, with multiple planes shredded to pieces, turned upside down, and burned to the last titanium made part left ...

    Russia is supposed to be the superior power here.

    Also its just a few destroyed. There are still dozens of Su-24s SU-27s and Mig-29s flying. Actually theres almost no satellite photos of ukrainian airfields. I wonder why.
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    Post  Ned86 Wed Aug 30, 2023 10:09 am

    limb wrote:

    Not as embarassing as 2 ka-52s then a strategic bomber and now 4 transports getting destroyed deep inside russia.

    .

    Drone technology improved rapidly in recent years and nowadays cardboard drones can be made which are almost impossible to detect with standard radars and equally impossible to intercept by missile.
    This is a game changer and every single country will have the same problem if attacked by them.

    Tu-141 flew from western Ukraine across Hungary, Romania and hit Croatian capital without anyone noticing it and it was a big massive drone from 70's. So NATO radars including all mighty US AWACS have holes also.

    Just remember 9/11 and Pentagon being hit by a passenger plane.
    There is no such a thing like a shield from Star Trek which prevents everything.

    There is not a single pic of Ukrainian airfields razed to the ground, with multiple planes shredded to pieces, turned upside down, and burned to the last titanium made part left ...

    Actually almost all military airfields were hit at some point.....but in order to fully disable military airport which is basically a field you would need tactical nuclear blast.

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    Post  limb Wed Aug 30, 2023 10:15 am

    Drone technology improved rapidly in recent years and nowadays cardboard drones can be made which are almost impossible to detect with standard radars and equally impossible to intercept by missile.
    This is a game changer and every single country will have the same problem if attacked by them.

    You dont destroy the drone, you destroy the launcher. The fact that the SBU operates drgs with impunity in pskov is pathetic. Meanwhile there are 0 antiukrainian fighters and russian drgs in Lvov Zhitomir, etc.
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    Post  ALAMO Wed Aug 30, 2023 10:17 am

    You won't get much out of that.
    Ukraine is literally stuffed with nonoperational airfields that can be used for relocation and dispersion of forces at any moment.
    A Soviet heritage.
    It is almost impossible to take them down, and very easy to repair which was proven lets say in Syria lately.
    Still, there are dozens and dozens Ukro aircraft taken out on the airfields that are not only not covered with Google algorithms, but replaced with the opposite pictures of the few Russian planes taken at any possible angle/occasion to provide a perspective of a mass scale of the issue.
    While we know those have been separate and small in-scale incidents, carefully planned and executed as spec ops. And never repeated later - which speaks on its own.

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    Post  limb Wed Aug 30, 2023 10:33 am

    carefully planned and executed as spec ops. And never repeated later - which speaks on its own.
    They were repeated. First destroyed Ka-52 by drg. Then destroyed Tu-22m by drg. Now destroyed Il-76s. This lends credence to drgs destroying russian aircraft in saki. As I said, its pathetic that ukrainian drgs or self hating russians can operate freely deep inside russia, while russia cant send drgs to blow up not only aircraft, but MLRS, artillery, ukrainian generals, SBU officers in the ukraine up to zakapartia..
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    Post  Mir Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:50 am

    blimp wrote:
    Not as embarassing as 2 ka-52s then a strategic bomber and now 4 transports getting destroyed deep inside russia.

    I beg to differ. The world's number one superpower (sorry only superpower) running away with it's tail between it's legs from one of the most backward  countries in the world. THAT IS embarrassing.  Embarassed  Embarassed  Embarassed

    A country loosing a couple of large transport planes and one strategic bomber (that can all be replaced) through terrorist action IS NOT embarrassing.
    There is always a risk involved when you deal with terrorists - even if you take precautions.


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    Post  Isos Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:51 am

    Already said basing planes west of the Urals is dumb. They can be reached by drones like yesterday.

    Transport planes and bombers have enough range to be used from Siberia, just fucking use the strategical deapth of your country.

    Those dumb generals keep their bombers close to ukraine to launch very long range missiles always from the caspian sea at target that can be atta k with cheaper stuff... I mean are they aware they need to change tactics and mke a better use of their hardware.
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    Post  flamming_python Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:57 am

    limb wrote:
    carefully planned and executed as spec ops. And never repeated later - which speaks on its own.
    They were repeated. First destroyed Ka-52 by drg. Then destroyed Tu-22m by drg. Now destroyed Il-76s. This lends credence to drgs destroying russian aircraft in saki. As I said, its pathetic that ukrainian drgs or self hating russians can operate freely deep inside russia, while russia cant send drgs to blow up not only aircraft, but MLRS, artillery, ukrainian generals, SBU officers in the ukraine up to zakapartia..

    Why does Russia need to send DRGs when it can send cruise missiles at a moment's notice?
    Remind me of the hysteria about Russia not having an 'equivalent' to HIMARS
    You're not making any sense.

    As for Ukrainian DRGs - Ukrainians can pass off as Russians with no issue, millions of Ukrainians have Russian passports, and the border between the countries and freedom of movement is quite porous.
    It's frankly a surprise that there haven't been more successful attacks.

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:59 am

    It is a matter of internal security measures to be hell of effective.
    This border is not porous, but non existing.
    Take a look at aerial/sat photos. This harvesting season, agriculture hardware was bypassing it at a daily basis, doing its job.
    From both sides, as I guess the situation is just same - Ukrainian farmers has some fields in Russia and vice versa.

    I remember an old joke, when a perfectly trained CIA agent was compromised at the Soviet pub.
    Being curios what made the locals to uncover him, he asks :
    Is it my Russian?
    No, you are speaking perfectly well, with a dialect from Moscow.
    Is it that I have too weak head to drink with you?
    No, you did wery well, overdrunk half of us.
    So what then...?!?
    There are no Negroes here...


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