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    Post  GarryB Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:50 am

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    Now that is more like a mast mounted optical sight... note no lens covers because instead of a separate lens cover mechanism it would normally be turned down to view directly down which would cover the lenses and protect them from dust and damage without needing an extra separate mechanism.

    Optical sensors on top and that box appears to be a battlefield radar which could scan for targets in extreme weather day or night.

    BTW the 120mm mortar is an interesting beast... the new ones are breach loaded because of the length of the barrel making muzzle loading impractical.

    Can't say I have seen a towed breach loading 120mm mortar being operated in the field... most often it is a muzzle loaded weapon.

    That mine probably replaces the TM-83 roadside mine, which is normally placed by the side of a road or track and it attacks the side armour of vehicles.

    Obviously attacking the top armour is rather more efficient...
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    Post  Hole Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:49 pm

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    The Nona-M1 can also be used as recoilless gun (like the SPG-9)

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    Post  GarryB Wed Dec 01, 2021 4:35 am

    Ha ha ha ha... good joke...

    It has to do that so you can load a mortar bomb into the tube, it then returns to its normal position to fire.

    It has that huge round base plate to absorb the enormous recoil of firing the shell... there is no way it could be fired like that because the enormous recoil would flip it.

    A recoilless rocket launcher essentially works like a rocket launcher... it is an open tube with a narrow bit behind the projectile and propellent to let the blast of the propellent through. The jet backwards of the propellent counters the recoil of the round being pushed forward, so essentially there is an explosion in the middle and an equal weight goes forward to the target (the projectile) while a similar mass in gas form that was the propellent goes out the other direction to balance everything and remove recoil.

    This 120mm mortar opens like that so the little breach hatch can open... a live round pushed in, the breach hatch closed and then it is rotated back into a normal mortar barrel position and fired.... exactly the same as the breach loaded 240mm mortar.

    If it was mounted in a vehicle like the 82mm Drotik then you could load it at an angle like that and fire it because the recoil mechanism is built in to the turret mechanism and there is no base plate to absorb the recoil when firing from the vehicle.

    When you take the barrel out of the drotik there is a base plate attached to the rear of the vehicle to use to absorb recoil when manually deployed.

    Thanks for posting, I hadn't seen that particular mortar before, though as I mention it is loaded the same as the 240mm mortar on the tulip... but obviously less mechanised because the 120mm mortar bombs are up to about 16kgs in weight while the 240mm bombs that are only double the calibre are 130kgs each.
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    Post  Mir Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:48 am

    It's the 2B23 Nona-M1 gun mortar.
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    Post  Hole Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:09 pm

    Artillery recon radars
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    Post  GarryB Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:54 am

    It's the 2B23 Nona-M1 gun mortar.

    Yes, it has to be breach loaded because the barrel would be too long to muzzle load it from the ground very easily.
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    Post  Hole Sat Dec 04, 2021 12:14 pm

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    9S932M Magister-SV

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Dec 04, 2021 12:55 pm

    OPSEC being stepped up

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    On Monday, we spotted a video of a train carrying trucks and Tigr armored cars somewhere in Russia. We logged in to GdeVagon railcar tracking database — only to find our account effectively blocked.

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    Post  auslander Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:55 pm

    OpSec is more tight than I've ever seen. I don't report a thing that is not visible on a public street and not painted green or in green cloth.

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    Post  franco Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:12 pm

    auslander wrote:OpSec is more tight than I've ever seen. I don't report a thing that is not visible on a public street and not painted green or in green cloth.

    Stay safe amigo.

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    Post  auslander Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:31 pm

    franco wrote: Stay safe amigo.

    Doing the best we can, my friend. If it gets bad at least our dogs will eat well, they've got a two month supply that we top off every two weeks. We keep the 'big' refrigerator well stocked, too, but no way two months of 'two leg' food will fit in it.
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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:07 pm

    auslander wrote:
    franco wrote: Stay safe amigo.

    Doing the best we can, my friend. If it gets bad at least our dogs will eat well, they've got a two month supply that we top off every two weeks. We keep the 'big' refrigerator well stocked, too, but no way two months of 'two leg' food will fit in it.

    You donated to supermarket for no reason, my friend

    Big boys are doing their little dance but nobody has the balls to do anything for real because they know what the tab will be

    404s may be convinced to do something dumb but they will be erased before you guys even get the morning coffee

    Weight difference is insane

    Relax and enjoy the winter holidays




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    Post  Hole Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:56 pm

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    Post  Mir Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:34 pm

    Secret aircraft leaked: Mig-24MR disguised as a Mig-31BM Laughing

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    Post  George1 Tue Dec 07, 2021 2:47 pm

    Teaching of cadets of the Kazan Higher Tank Command School

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    Post  Hole Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:35 pm

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    I tried to translate it with Yandex but failed. To small/blurry.

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    Post  Mir Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:13 pm

    Get bigger pictures Laughing
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    Post  ALAMO Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:25 pm

    The only part I am sure is "podsistiema komandowania i sztaba (variant)" on top Laughing
    So that makes subsystems of command & staff (variant).

    And the composition on the pics bottom : brigada-batalion-rota-vzvod-otdielienie. So brigade-battalion-regiment-company-platoon.
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    Post  Hole Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:48 pm

    That´s the Unified Tactical Control System (ESU TZ). Franco posted an article about it in the Military Reform section.
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    Post  Krepost Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:34 pm

    Fixed version of AGS-30.
    Intended for used on small Naval units as well as for ground units.

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    Post  GarryB Mon Dec 13, 2021 5:54 am

    Grenade launchers like that are so much more effective against enemy infantry out to significant ranges than rifle calibre machine guns, but their ammo is a bit bulky though, so vehicle mounts make a lot of sense.
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    Post  GarryB Tue Dec 14, 2021 8:22 am

    Note gas mask helmet combination article moved to Sotnik thread (Ratnik III).

    https://www.russiadefence.net/t8460-sotnik-next-gen-combat-armor-ratnik-iii#312538

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    Post  franco Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:00 pm

    The ground forces of Russia received more than 2.4 thousand samples of equipment

    MOSCOW, December 21. / TASS /. The ground forces of Russia (Land Forces) received more than 2.4 thousand pieces of equipment this year. This was announced on Tuesday by the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation, General of the Army Sergei Shoigu, at an expanded meeting of the collegium of the military department.

    "More than two thousand four hundred new and modernized models have been delivered to the Ground Forces," Shoigu informed.

    According to him, a number of new military units were also formed. “Two new divisions have been deployed - a motorized rifle and a tank, as well as a missile and anti-aircraft missile brigade,” the Defense Minister said.

    NOTE: "the two new divisions - a motor rifle and tank," deployed maybe a misquote. It was planned for two new regiments - a motor rifle and tank.

    https://tass-ru.translate.goog/armiya-i-opk/13259017?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

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    Post  franco Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:53 pm

    A new engineer-sapper regiment has been formed in the Republic of Buryatia, which structurally became part of the combined arms army of the Eastern Military District, it is stationed in the city of Kyakhta.

    The military unit will perform the tasks of engineering support for planned activities of the combined arms army. The newly formed military unit included engineer-sapper, engineering-technical battalions and support units.

    The regiment is almost 100% equipped with new modern models of military and special equipment. The unit is armed with modern sets of heavy mechanized bridges TMM-3M2, the latest robotic mine clearance complex "Uran-6", a special vehicle of the SAGR mine clearance group based on the UAZ-2363 pickup truck, a mobile engineering repair complex PIRK.

    https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12402615@egNews

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    Post  George1 Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:36 pm

    Motorized riflemen of the Central Military District at night repulsed the attack of a mock enemy at the Aleisky training ground in the Altai Territory.

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