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    Post  lancelot Mon May 24, 2021 10:49 am

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:literally, nothing you showed or said proved or showed me the guy arrested was a CIA stooge. What other people say or do has nothing to do with the actions of another

    I will say this again, just because someone opposes someone, that doesn't mean they are employed or used by the CIA.

    The logic "Oh he opposed Luka, he must be part of the CIA" is, to be frank, absolutely moronic. By that logic anyone in the US who opposes the government is employed by the kremlin.

    Don't respond to me with stupid comments like that, the bias on this forum is ridiculous.

    Do not be retarded. Just read his Wikipedia page.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Protasevich

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    He worked in the Azov Battalion press service.
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    He also worked for the Belarusian edition of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty.
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    Protasevich ran the Nexta Telegram channel together with its co-creator Sciapan Pucila (Stepan Putilo). In August 2020, after Belarusian authorities tried to disable internet access during the 2020 presidential election, Nexta became one of the main sources of information about the protests against alleged rigged elections and started to coordinate the protests. The channel had nearly 800,000 new subscribers in a week.

    He is clearly a paid asset. He is a right winged fascist "journalist" paid by Uncle Sam. I might as well be reading the bio of Benito Mussolini here.

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    Post  Backman Mon May 24, 2021 11:59 am

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    PhSt wrote:So.. did Lukashenko folded and released the CIA sponsored Extremist??


    Ryanair flight lands in Vilnius after forced landing in Minsk

    VILNIUS, May 23. /TASS/. A Ryanair flight flying from Athens to Vilnius has finally landed at the Vilnius airport after a forced landing in Minsk, Gabrielius Landsbergis said on Sunday.

    "The plane has landed at the Lithuanian capital’s airport," he told journalists.

    There were some 170 passengers from 12 counties, including 90 Lithuanian nationals, onboard the plane.

    Romat Protasevich, a co-founder of the Nexta Telegram channel, which had been recognized as extremist in Belarus, was among the passengers. He is wanted in Belarus and is living in Lithuania. The man was detained after the plane’s landing.


    Ya know just because someone is in opposition to another doesn't mean they are a CIA assist.

    Maybe before you throw those accusations around you back it up with some facts, but I guess that is to hard.
    I used to think CIA accusations were overdone too. But they aren't. You go to ANY trouble spot in the world today , Myanmar , Thailand , Hongkong , Belarus or Armenia and you will see ANY name that is getting trotted out by the Western press , is part of the group.

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    Post  mavaff Mon May 24, 2021 1:13 pm

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    Post  calripson Mon May 24, 2021 1:40 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:literally, nothing you showed or said proved or showed me the guy arrested was a CIA stooge. What other people say or do has nothing to do with the actions of another

    I will say this again, just because someone opposes someone, that doesn't mean they are employed or used by the CIA.

    The logic "Oh he opposed Luka, he must be part of the CIA" is, to be frank, absolutely moronic. By that logic anyone in the US who opposes the government is employed by the kremlin.

    Don't respond to me with stupid comments like that, the bias on this forum is ridiculous.

    Just because a girl works in a strip club doesn't mean she's a slut, but I'll take those odds any day.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Mon May 24, 2021 2:17 pm

    lancelot wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:literally, nothing you showed or said proved or showed me the guy arrested was a CIA stooge. What other people say or do has nothing to do with the actions of another

    I will say this again, just because someone opposes someone, that doesn't mean they are employed or used by the CIA.

    The logic "Oh he opposed Luka, he must be part of the CIA" is, to be frank, absolutely moronic. By that logic anyone in the US who opposes the government is employed by the kremlin.

    Don't respond to me with stupid comments like that, the bias on this forum is ridiculous.

    Do not be retarded. Just read his Wikipedia page.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Protasevich

    ...
    He worked in the Azov Battalion press service.
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    He also worked for the Belarusian edition of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty.
    ...
    Protasevich ran the Nexta Telegram channel together with its co-creator Sciapan Pucila (Stepan Putilo). In August 2020, after Belarusian authorities tried to disable internet access during the 2020 presidential election, Nexta became one of the main sources of information about the protests against alleged rigged elections and started to coordinate the protests. The channel had nearly 800,000 new subscribers in a week.

    He is clearly a paid asset. He is a right winged fascist "journalist" paid by Uncle Sam. I might as well be reading the bio of Benito Mussolini here.

    Oh, look some factual proof to support the claim, look how easy this was to produce.

    That said wiki pages are very sketchy at best, as anyone can edit those and not everything on wiki is accurate.
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    Post  PhSt Mon May 24, 2021 2:57 pm

    Typical American double standards Laughing Laughing Laughing

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    Post  nero Mon May 24, 2021 3:04 pm

    Here's a good article to read amidst the nagging of Western media:

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2021/05/lukashenkos-revenge-served-cold.html


    1. In 1954 Israel forced a Syrian plane to land taking hostages.
    2. In 1957 France forced an Air Maroc plane to land to kidnap Ahmed Ben Bella.
    3. In 2010 the United States forced a plane to land (flying France -> Mexico) in Canada to arrest a man.
    4. In 2012 Turkey forced down a Syrian passenger jet. "Because of weapons onboard" (None found)
    5. In 2013 United States and allies forced Evo Morales plane to land in search of Snowden.
    6. In 2016 Ukraine forced a plane to land back in Kiev (flying Kiev -> Minsk) in search of someone.


    Oh but remember. UNPRECEDENTED!

    God knows how many people were kidnapped and taken to the United States where torture awaited... Still waiting on sanctions for that one Smile Or how many civilians were killed in foreign countries via drone bombings without even a US court order (I believe that is illegal/unconstitutional even in the United States)

    Edit 2:

    https://t.me/euroradio/18051

    And here we have the admission.

    Doesn't look like someone with a heart disease.

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    Post  kvs Mon May 24, 2021 4:22 pm

    Yanqui-land is full of crap as usual. Their piracy of oil tankers in the name of their sanctions (not UN sanctions) shows them for what
    they are: rogue law breakers that screech about legal arrests of seditionists in other countries. Belorus did not hijack anything.
    It enforced the legitimate law of the land. All airline companies sign a legally binding declaration to abide by national laws. "Air piracy"
    is for the ignorant lemmings who have no clue about reality and need others to think for them.

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    Post  Hole Mon May 24, 2021 4:28 pm

    A civil plane flying trough the airspace of some country is under the jurisdiction of that country. If they order you to land you have to do it.

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    Post  Lurk83 Tue May 25, 2021 12:15 am

    This move is great for russia. The sanctions etc will just push Lukashenko closer to Russia and EAEU.

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    Post  PhSt Tue May 25, 2021 12:32 am

    Lurk83 wrote:This move is great for russia. The sanctions etc will just push Lukashenko closer to Russia and EAEU.

    And hopefully, lead to the total incorporation of Belarus into the Russian Federation. russia russia russia

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    Post  PhSt Tue May 25, 2021 1:15 am

    Looks like NATzO is throwing a tantrum just because another country outside the block did exactly the same thing NATzO have been doing for a long time  Laughing  Laughing  Laughing

    Thats right, push Belarus to the point of having no other choice but to join the Russian Federation  russia  russia  russia

    BTW, EU's demand to force their version of Democracy onto Belarus is a Brazen display of interference. Both the Russian and Belarussian leadership needs to react strongly to this evil provocation!  attack


    EU leaders agree to close skies & airports to Belarus over Ryanair incident, freeze €3bn investment until Minsk turns ‘democratic’

    Leaders of 27 European Union countries called for a ban on Belarus-based airlines landing in the bloc and told EU-based carriers to avoid Belarus skies, after a Ryanair flight was diverted to Minsk to arrest an activist on board.

    Meeting in Brussels on Monday, the European Council – heads of state or government of all EU members – issued a memo demanding the “immediate release” of Roman Protasevich and Sofia Sapega, two of the passengers detained on Sunday. It also called on the International Civil Aviation Organization to investigate Sunday’s incident, which it described as “unprecedented and unacceptable.”

    The Ryanair flight from Greece to Lithuania, with Protasevich and Sapega on board, made an emergency landing in Minsk due to a reported bomb threat – only for the duo to be taken into custody once on the ground.

    Protasevich is wanted in Belarus on charges of inciting mass unrest in his former job as editor-in-chief of the Warsaw-based Telegram channel Nexta. He is currently employed by Belamova, an outlet founded by Igor Losik, a consultant for US state-run media RFE/RL. Both outlets are on the list of extremist organizations in Minsk, having sided with protesters who called last year’s presidential election stolen and advocated regime change in Belarus.

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    Post  kvs Tue May 25, 2021 1:23 am

    The NATzO west reserves for itself the right to be judge, jury and executioner for the whole planet. This is nothing but self-serving
    imperialist BS covered by a microscopic and transparent fig leaf of "morality".

    We have bloggers and "activists" elevated to full representatives of the people without even an opinion poll showing that they have
    any sort of support as representatives. All that it takes is for these clowns to be sponsored and approved by the west. And NATzO
    fcuks call this democracy. It's not democracy if it is foisted from abroad.

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    Post  Backman Tue May 25, 2021 1:54 am

    Just seen this comment on Moon of Alabama blog

    You can accuse Lukashenko from whatever kind of things, but one thing he is not is an amateur. As a Soviet citizen and experienced politician, he certainly knows how to neutralize those subversives by heart. For example, he botched the color revolutionaries true pawn sacrifice at the beginning of the coup: Tikhanovskaya was to be burnt alive in her HQ by some carefully chosen (probably neonazis) gangsters disguised as protesters, rescuing her sending her to Lithuania. Lithuanian government thought it had struck gold but is was actually a Trojan Horse. Europe now has their own Guaidó, losing face day by day with embarrassing propaganda moves like offering her Head of State titles, credentials and receptions every time she visits an EU country + UK. She will **** everything up with her greed, idiocy and shortsightedness before Europe has even a chance to set up another color revolution in Belarus.

    The bolded is some pretty dark shit if there's any truth to it.
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    Post  flamming_python Tue May 25, 2021 2:38 am

    I have to agree, pretty masterful move from Lukashenko. Or Moscow, or whoever authorized it.

    Now he can publicize this to his own people about the guy he captured, one of the ringleaders of the Belarus oppositionists

    https://twitter.com/colonelhomsi/status/1396937297908617222
    interesting details from the biographies of the Belarusian protest leaders began to appear on the web..

    in 2014, Roman Protasevich went to Donbass, where he met with the leader of the far-right national alliance and an active participant in the Maidan, Igor Guz..

    At his suggestion, he joined Azov, where he received special training in combat, firing from firearms, assault, sabotage and subversive work. He helped Azov battalion in every way possible to earn money from the US and Poland..

    He practically did not take part in hostilities, he posed more in positions and sometimes shot at the enemy "for the sake of memories" as was said..

    In 2017 he started working for Radio Liberty. He was initially trained in Prague and later in the United States..


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    Post  mavaff Tue May 25, 2021 2:43 am

    According to this lady the bomb threat was real and maybe this affair was arranged by some westerner service to further push the narrative of Luka being the bad guy.
    Mind this lady is pretty pro-Russia.

    https://nitter.fdn.fr/elenaevdokimov7/status/1397022717338021888#m
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    Post  GarryB Tue May 25, 2021 7:47 am

    According to this lady the bomb threat was real and maybe this affair was arranged by some westerner service...

    Not hard to believe... western intel services did hire Georgian snipers to shoot people on both sides at Maiden to stir up trouble and get both sides at each others throats...

    Brutal stuff really.
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    Post  flamming_python Tue May 25, 2021 8:29 am

    They're panicking

    https://twitter.com/colonelhomsi/status/1397077388836679680
    Russia has expressed concern over calls by former presidential candidate Svetlana Tikhanovskaya for mobilizing protesters in the Republic of Belarus, russian foreign minister Sergey Lavrov said..

    I have a feeling Belarus hit the jackpot with this one.

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    Post  PapaDragon Tue May 25, 2021 9:20 am


    I love how everyone is still in "this is unprecedented!!!" mode lol1

    Yo! Paris airport? Snowden? Ring a bell?

    And that's on top of everything else over the decades...

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    Post  slasher Tue May 25, 2021 9:39 am

    flamming_python wrote:I have to agree, pretty masterful move from Lukashenko. Or Moscow, or whoever authorized it.

    Now he can publicize this to his own people about the guy he captured, one of the ringleaders of the Belarus oppositionists

    Interesting how you stated that. I have seen comments surmising that the Belarusian security/intel services acted on their own initiative to corner Lukashenko with this plot (possibly with support from Moscow). The EU and NATO too surely had given themselves no choice in how they must respond, having trumpeted atop the moral high ground their determination to resolutely defend and project their "values" and "rules-based" order.
    The situation was thus set up nicely for for an operation like this, one that leaves the stubborn, uncompromising Lukashenko without anywhere to turn again but to Russia. Putin could now act fast to turn the screws and exact concessions/compliance from Luka, or look to bypass him and support a change of leadership in Belarus that is more amenable to Russia. In any case, this whole development works well in Russia's favour, and should be quickly taken advantage of.
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    Post  flamming_python Tue May 25, 2021 12:01 pm

    slasher wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:I have to agree, pretty masterful move from Lukashenko. Or Moscow, or whoever authorized it.

    Now he can publicize this to his own people about the guy he captured, one of the ringleaders of the Belarus oppositionists

    Interesting how you stated that. I have seen comments surmising that the Belarusian security/intel services acted on their own initiative to corner Lukashenko with this plot (possibly with support from Moscow). The EU and NATO too surely had given themselves no choice in how they must respond, having trumpeted atop the moral high ground their determination to resolutely defend and project their "values" and "rules-based" order.
    The situation was thus set up nicely for for an operation like this, one that leaves the stubborn, uncompromising Lukashenko without anywhere to turn again but to Russia. Putin could now act fast to turn the screws and exact concessions/compliance from Luka, or look to bypass him and support a change of leadership in Belarus that is more amenable to Russia. In any case, this whole development works well in Russia's favour, and should be quickly taken advantage of.

    Why exactly would Lukashenko be cornered from this action? He doesn't have much in the way of relations with the West anyway

    And while Moscow would probably love to replace him, what candidate can they offer - and what reason would the Belarussian KGB have to go along with that? They probably don't want to run the risk of destabilizing their own country in order to replace the president who acted together with them to hold down the fort and protect them from lustration under a future Maidan regime. Keep in mind that the thing everyone can agree on in Belarus, including those who oppose Lukashenko, is that he has done well in maintaining Belarus's sovereignty while at the same time preserving close ties with Russia.

    I think the reason they acted to capture the prick is simply the most obvious one. He was a big fish in the regime-change effort, and he has neo-nazi credentials that can be publicized to discredit the whole thing, as well as valuable information to divulge that can be used to implicate others. That's it.

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    Post  franco Tue May 25, 2021 12:45 pm

    Is this the Russian girlfriend?

    The father of the Russian woman Sapieha announced her arrest in Belarus for two months.The arrest of the Russian woman Sofia Sapega, detained in Minsk on suspicion of committing crimes under the Criminal Code of Belarus, was extended for two months, she was transferred to the KGB detention center of the republic. This was announced on Tuesday, May 25, by the girl's father.

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    Post  par far Tue May 25, 2021 2:33 pm

    Hopefully they hang this mother fucker by balls and make a example out of him.

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    Post  miketheterrible Tue May 25, 2021 3:06 pm

    par far wrote:Hopefully they hang this mother fucker by balls and make a example out of him.

    I agree. The days of appeasement should be over. The fact that European Council has the gall to threaten Russia with regime change and what not should be met with a strong heavy handed response but it isn't even given a god damn wisper. It's almost like Putin wants them to do it and get away with it.

    This shit needs to end. Even if it means telling the EU they will turn them into glass if they don't stop and see if US will come to their rescue. Most will give up. Like Turkey when they made mention of blocking the straight to USSR and USSR told them they would be destroyed.

    Russia has the means and they know it. But they know Putin is such a pussy he keeps head down and quiet when they try to destroy Russia.

    Even fucking Luka has more balls.
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Tue May 25, 2021 4:20 pm

    UK, France and Ukraine have suspended and banned Belarus airplanes from their airspace, EU is expected to pass rules stating this will go for all of the EU.

    Flights are also now being told to divert away from Belarus airspace.

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