franco wrote:Russia's challenge in getting Russians to get vaccinated...
42% of Russians do not want to be vaccinated against Covid-19 ‘under ANY circumstances,’ even to enable travel abroad, says survey...
Any more fanboys here wanna tell me again how Russians are super smart and shit?
Why should it be so strange?
While the covid19 flu can have bad consequences, especially in people with some problematic conditions, a lot of the people who died of covid (at least in Italy) were not even treated. I do not know about the official policies of other countries, but in Italy if you have covid the doctors are only giving you paracetamol and waiting until it is too late (tachipirina e vigile attesa) for you, and then if you do not heal on your own they will bring you to the hospital once the situation is already compromised.
It is like getting a dire illness in the middle ages.
In Italy last year a few doctors managed to save many people by actually treating their (covid) patients already in their houses, (and prescribing some basic medicines available in any pharmacy) preventing (or at least mitigating) the worsening of the conditions. And some of these doctors were considered heretics because of this (basically because they were the only ones that were true to their profession and vocation) and threatened to be kicked out from professional registration as medical doctors.
It is like they want to convince everyone that vaccines are the only way out. They are not. They can be a way to protect the old and weak part of the population, but they cannot be imposed on the whole of the population.
Especially since all the covid vaccines used now are experimental threatmens which side effects are often more dangerous and frequent than the virus itself on people that are young and healthy.
All COVID-19 vaccines used in EU and in the US were approved by the US FDA or by the European Medicine agency under an emergency use authorization without long term safety data.
I find also highly unethical that the pharmaceutical industries can commercialise (and make a lot of money from them) experimental threatmens tested only for about 3 months.
Furthermore they have not been tested for long and there may be long term risk associated with them (especially mRNA vaccines).
From a scientific and development point of view they are interesting, but both types available until now (viral carrier like astrazeneca, Johnson & Johnson and Sputnik V and mRNA vaccines like Pfizer/Biontech and Moderna) scare me a bit of since they basically turn many cells in the body into production factories for a part of the virus (the famous "spike" proteine).
It has been proven that this proteine itself is toxic for the body even without the rest of the virus, and it is the one responsible for blood clots, so the vaccine may be more dangerous on this point, as it can cause blood clots in different part of the body, including in the brain.
Apparently Sputnik V presents less side effects than the others, but the mechanisms that the vaccine uses is similar:
First, the vector (not the virus that causes COVID-19, but a different, harmless virus) will enter a cell in our body and then use the cell’s machinery to produce a [b]harmless piece of the virus that causes COVID-19. This piece is known as a spike protein and it is only found on the surface[b] of the virus that causes COVID-19.
Next, the cell displays the spike protein on its surface, and our immune system recognizes it doesn’t belong there. This triggers our immune system to begin producing antibodies and activating other immune cells to fight off what it thinks is an infection.
This description is not correct since the "harmless" part is not harmless at all.
Furthermore it has been theorised the risk of autoimmune diseas associated with those kinds of vaccines.
There are also several open questions about other long term consequences of mRNA (and possibly also of viral vector) vaccines but until we have more data we cannot know for sure about it.
One of the risk is also possible brain diseases
Anyway I have no intention to be a guinea pig for an experimental treatment which long term consequences are unknown.
For me it would be like being forced to fly on a new type of uncertified and untested helicopter, with my whole family, after it only received an experimental permit to fly (that is basically only an authorisation to do flight tests in area far away from the population).
In addition with the risk that I could have consequences for my health also a few years after the event.
If I was afflicted with a terminal illness that left me only s few months to live, and the treatment would have me instead some chances of living, I would maybe consider the risk, but not for the Covid19.
The third vaccine being developed in Russia seems less problematic.
I do not know how the second Russian vaccine works exactly (it is a peptide base vaccine, another promising (but untested) technology, but the third vaccine is a classic whole virus vaccine (where they will probably use a weakened or inactivated (and unable to replicate) covid19 virus) , so it should be a proven technology.
I do not like at all when I hear representatives from Pfizer calling their vaccine a "platform"... Basically they consider human body like a machine and the vaccine as a piece of software
I have done all the vaccines that I needed to do until now and last year I did the tetanus vaccine booster (since it was at least ten years since my last tetanus vaccination).
I know that all vaccines may have side effects, but at least until now I have done those that were really important to prevent dangerous diseases and that were tested and used for a long time (so I was (or my parents were, when I was a child) aware of the risk of long term consequences associated with them)