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    Post  PhSt Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:07 pm

    where is a lol button when you need one Laughing
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    Post  kvs Thu Nov 25, 2021 7:18 pm

    Children of high calibre parents are not guaranteed to have any substance.   Many of them "rebel" against the "oppression"
    of their parents even if it is about not being coddled to the degree they desire.   I would not be surprised if the bimbo shown is
    actually some not-so-closet 5th column retard.   She would be part of the woke mob in the west.  

    Ideology cannot cure mental inadequacy.   Only bitter life experience has a chance.   If she really is a 5th column maggot, then
    her father should disown her.
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    Post  Hole Thu Nov 25, 2021 7:42 pm

    Looks quite similar to the german "Schweigefuchs", which is used be someone (mostly a teacher or parent) to bring someone (mostly children) to shut the f... up. Don´t know if there is something familiar in Russia but it so then it could mean that she wants the opponents of her team to shut up.
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    Post  ALAMO Thu Nov 25, 2021 9:45 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:I hope it was sarcasm

    scratch
    Why?

    I know, you dog, she is not in your league Laughing

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    Not even close to the ones you are used to fap to...

    Get serious lads, really...

    Besides, what extra context does it adds? scratch
    She cheered the national team, and you were biased enough to make that a crime.
    You should be ashamed, to be honest dunno

    I suppose that you mixed her with older sister, Julia.

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    But this one, is an psychologist ... and in line of MES for 20 years ...
    I know, not impressing ... Laughing

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    Post  kvs Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:24 pm

    Hole wrote:Looks quite similar to the german "Schweigefuchs", which is used be someone (mostly a teacher or parent) to bring someone (mostly children) to shut the f... up. Don´t know if there is something familiar in Russia but it so then it could mean that she wants the opponents of her team to shut up.

    Russia has adapted some German gestures, for example the "fick" one which is called "fig" in Russian (the thumb has moved from between
    the four other fingers to between the index and middle fingers). In Russian the gesture means "you are not getting anything" with a hint of
    "sod off".

    I am not familiar with the particular one you note, but maybe it has diffused into Russia in the last 40 years. But considering the ethnic background
    of this woman I think some Turkic nationalist sentiment is more likely. Everybody is oppressed even when they are not.

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    Post  flamming_python Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:42 pm

    I doubt any Turkic bullshit is likely. Tuva has a sort of nationalist streak but they really have no time for Turkey and their gangs/organizations, they're not even Muslim.

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    Post  calripson Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:09 am

    New regulations require foreigners living in Russia who are non-diplomats to obtain psychiatric and medical evaluation every 90 days. In Moscow, this requires an 80-kilometer trek which has to be repeated 10 days later in person to pick up the results. Obviously, most people do not need psychiatric evaluations every 90 days (nor syphilis tests every 90 days): it clearly creates a message for foreigners to leave and it also probably enables the psychiatrist to profile the individual to figure out who they really are and what they are doing in Russia.
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    Post  kvs Thu Dec 16, 2021 6:05 am

    calripson wrote:New regulations require foreigners living in Russia who are non-diplomats to obtain psychiatric and medical evaluation every 90 days. In Moscow, this requires an 80-kilometer trek which has to be repeated 10 days later in person to pick up the results. Obviously, most people do not need psychiatric evaluations every 90 days (nor syphilis tests every 90 days): it clearly creates a message for foreigners to leave and it also probably enables the psychiatrist to profile the individual to figure out who they really are and what they are doing in Russia.

    Wow, that's extreme. Russia appears to be expecting a full bore subversion campaign by NATzO.

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    Post  miketheterrible Thu Dec 16, 2021 6:28 am

    kvs wrote:
    calripson wrote:New regulations require foreigners living in Russia who are non-diplomats to obtain psychiatric and medical evaluation every 90 days. In Moscow, this requires an 80-kilometer trek which has to be repeated 10 days later in person to pick up the results. Obviously, most people do not need psychiatric evaluations every 90 days (nor syphilis tests every 90 days): it clearly creates a message for foreigners to leave and it also probably enables the psychiatrist to profile the individual to figure out who they really are and what they are doing in Russia.

    Wow, that's extreme.   Russia appears to be expecting a full bore subversion campaign by NATzO.


    Who knows how well it will stand up. Maybe it's to entice others to not live in Moscow but other areas where the trek isn't as bad.

    But it will probably be changed sooner than later.
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    Post  calripson Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:43 pm

    One of the undesired effects I know of is Russian/Foreign marriages with children - these are people who have lived in Russia for years and who now plan to leave and to take their spouses/kids with them. These are Russian kids who would have been raised in Russia. Not exactly the demographic effect you need.
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    Post  kvs Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:52 pm

    calripson wrote:One of the undesired effects I know of is Russian/Foreign marriages with children - these are people who have lived in Russia for years and who now plan to leave and to take their spouses/kids with them. These are Russian kids who would have been raised in Russia. Not exactly the demographic effect you need.

    There have been some nasty cases. A Finnish father abducted his child a few years ago and Finland automatically approved this abduction.
    If it was a western family separation case, the mother would have received priority. In Canada we have the orange alert system which routinely
    tags abductions by parents. The west is a steaming pile of hate-filled hypocrisy.

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    Post  owais.usmani Mon Dec 20, 2021 2:16 pm

    https://www.rbc.ru/economics/20/12/2021/61bc5d059a794770833e7b51

    To secure a state contract, Russian companies have to give a bribe worth on average *22.5%* of the deal's total value, as per a new study by academics at Moscow's Higher School of Economics.

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    Post  kvs Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:10 pm

    owais.usmani wrote:https://www.rbc.ru/economics/20/12/2021/61bc5d059a794770833e7b51

    To secure a state contract, Russian companies have to give a bribe worth on average *22.5%* of the deal's total value, as per a new study by academics at Moscow's Higher School of Economics.

    The MHSE is a nest of NATzO bootlick monetarists. That is not hyperbole that is fact. They have systematically pushed for a 5th column
    economics agenda where Russia should surrender itself as a colony to NATzO and let the "big boys" "invest" (for some reason these
    investments require Russia to bend over and take it). If you think MHSE, then think Kudrin and Illarionov and worse.

    They and their "studies" are not credible.

    Who are the people getting the bribes? Putin and his "oligarch crew"?

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    Post  miketheterrible Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:32 pm

    kvs wrote:
    owais.usmani wrote:https://www.rbc.ru/economics/20/12/2021/61bc5d059a794770833e7b51

    To secure a state contract, Russian companies have to give a bribe worth on average *22.5%* of the deal's total value, as per a new study by academics at Moscow's Higher School of Economics.

    The MHSE is a nest of NATzO bootlick monetarists.  That is not hyperbole that is fact.   They have systematically pushed for a 5th column
    economics agenda where Russia should surrender itself as a colony to NATzO and let the "big boys" "invest" (for some reason these
    investments require Russia to bend over and take it).   If you think MHSE, then think Kudrin and Illarionov and worse.  

    They and their "studies" are not credible.  

    Who are the people getting the bribes?   Putin and his "oligarch crew"?


    The MHSE hasnt been credible since forever. I mean, it is Gaidars institute after all, and him and his ilk were corrupt as shit.

    So where do they get their "numbers" from?

    I imagine someone will digest what MHSE said and will blow it apart eventually in a video.

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    Post  kvs Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:53 pm

    This "report" is exactly the sort of propaganda talking point feed-in I was talking about in another post.
    Now we will have western and 5th column Russian fake stream media and bloggers spooging themselves
    repeating it as God Given Truth and not the transparent fakery that it is.

    As you point out, where do they get their numbers? From surveys? lol1

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    Post  miketheterrible Mon Dec 20, 2021 9:25 pm

    kvs wrote:This "report" is exactly the sort of propaganda talking point feed-in I was talking about in another post.
    Now we will have western and 5th column Russian fake stream media and bloggers spooging themselves
    repeating it as God Given Truth and not the transparent fakery that it is.

    As you point out, where do they get their numbers?  From surveys? lol1


    That's it though. How do they get the numbers? Did some random business people just tell them? Was any proof provided? Names and companies along with government officials?

    From my understanding, the prime minister opened up an online portal for businesses to register for taxes, submit taxes and even apply for grants. I'm also certain getting contracts was part of it too as it makes it far more transparent.

    So for all we know, they could be calculating some random survey from Daegestan, Ingushetia, Chechnya or whatever region where clan mentality is still important for both business and social alike. I don't doubt some in Moscow city council indulge in it too but my understanding is most of these contracts are published online anyway.

    It is just Gaidar nonsense honestly. When the guy died, I don't think anyone shed a tear.

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Dec 20, 2021 9:30 pm

    Why are you hyping, again? scratch
    This 22% is 1/3 of what the Murican MIC is bribing, in daylight. respekt
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    Post  kvs Mon Dec 20, 2021 10:18 pm

    I will admit that corruption is more polished in the west. In Russia it is still an openly criminal activity.

    The only thing that really matters is if the whip is cracked eventually. Such as we had with Vostochny Cosmodrome.
    A similar situation developed with the Northern Latitudinal Diameter railway project. It was given out to private companies
    to undertake and they f*cked it over. As a result the project had to be put back in government hands and will be delayed
    by three years.

    A clear pattern can be seen. Government money going into the hands of precious, precious and magical private companies
    is squandered. This is not a uniquely Russian problem. It also happens in the west on a massive scale, but the private
    companies own western governments so they have developed a shroud of legitimacy through assorted legislative tricks.

    Another aspect is that in Russia the lack of control of the government by private outfits leads to a situation where they
    tend to operate in a fly-by-night fashion. Steal and run. So they have less incentive to clean up their image since they
    do not have the confidence that they will be around next year.

    Reality is always more complex than any ideology.

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    Post  miketheterrible Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:07 pm

    kvs wrote:I will admit that corruption is more polished in the west.   In Russia it is still an openly criminal activity.  

    The only thing that really matters is if the whip is cracked eventually.   Such as we had with Vostochny Cosmodrome.
    A similar situation developed with the Northern Latitudinal Diameter railway project.   It was given out to private companies
    to undertake and they f*cked it over.   As a result the project had to be put back in government hands and will be delayed
    by three years.    

    A clear pattern can be seen.   Government money going into the hands of precious, precious and magical private companies
    is squandered.   This is not a uniquely Russian problem.   It also happens in the west on a massive scale, but the private
    companies own western governments so they have developed a shroud of legitimacy through assorted legislative tricks.

    Another aspect is that in Russia the lack of control of the government by private outfits leads to a situation where they
    tend to operate in a fly-by-night fashion.   Steal and run.   So they have less incentive to clean up their image since they
    do not have the confidence that they will be around next year.  

    Reality is always more complex than any ideology.


    Well, you can see evidently that private industry out west screwed our infrastructure considerably, jobs left at the earliest sign of a slight downturn, and only thing happening now is construction on same exact routes as before, just being redone for the 10th time in last 3 years.

    Russia of course is no exception, but when people bitch how government owned industries are growing in numbers rather than private, must be they don't realize reality of things. Private works fine if it's small and medium companies. Large companies are far more prone to screwing up, over charging and under delivering.

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    Post  kvs Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:23 pm

    Indeed, large companies have coercive power. And the gutless wonder politicians are afraid to touch them because of the
    potential for negative fallout. By contrast, they will steamroll private individuals without batting an eye. For example, in Canada
    certain types of knives and box-cutter sold by Canadian Tire, Home Depot, etc. are illegal under the law (the flip type). But nobody
    is stopping such sales. So you can be charged with a criminal offense after leaving the store. It is a Kafkaesque joke.


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    Post  flamming_python Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:59 am

    owais.usmani wrote:https://www.rbc.ru/economics/20/12/2021/61bc5d059a794770833e7b51

    To secure a state contract, Russian companies have to give a bribe worth on average *22.5%* of the deal's total value, as per a new study by academics at Moscow's Higher School of Economics.

    Sounds about right

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    Post  GarryB Tue Dec 21, 2021 4:08 am

    Do you have any receipts or is this just a... we think putin murdered people with novachok because that sounds like the sort of thing he would do sort of thing?

    The irony is that this study likely took the form of lecturers asking for bribes from various western intelligence agencies to determine the level of the "arrived at" bribery level.... the more you give the worse we will make Russia look... seems they didn't give very much at all...

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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Dec 21, 2021 6:19 am

    flamming_python wrote:
    owais.usmani wrote:https://www.rbc.ru/economics/20/12/2021/61bc5d059a794770833e7b51

    To secure a state contract, Russian companies have to give a bribe worth on average *22.5%* of the deal's total value, as per a new study by academics at Moscow's Higher School of Economics.

    Sounds about right

    Based on.....?
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    Post  ALAMO Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:35 am

    miketheterrible wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:
    owais.usmani wrote:https://www.rbc.ru/economics/20/12/2021/61bc5d059a794770833e7b51

    To secure a state contract, Russian companies have to give a bribe worth on average *22.5%* of the deal's total value, as per a new study by academics at Moscow's Higher School of Economics.

    Sounds about right

    Based on.....?

    I would bet sarcasm Laughing
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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:41 am

    ALAMO wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:
    owais.usmani wrote:https://www.rbc.ru/economics/20/12/2021/61bc5d059a794770833e7b51

    To secure a state contract, Russian companies have to give a bribe worth on average *22.5%* of the deal's total value, as per a new study by academics at Moscow's Higher School of Economics.

    Sounds about right

    Based on.....?

    I would bet sarcasm Laughing

    Knowing pythons previous pro commie comments?  No, he isn't being sarcastic.

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