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    2020 Nagorno-Karabakh war #2

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    Post  KoTeMoRe Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:32 pm

    Maximmmm wrote:
    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:#Putin's opinion on the War in #NagornoKarabakh.
    1) under international law the N.K.  is Azerbaidjan, the Tashkent Pact guarantees only Armenian territory.  https://t.me/rian_ru/65792
    2) an Armenian rejection of the agreements would be suicidal https://t.me/rian_ru/65794
    3) on October 20 we had an agreement that would have allowed the Armenians to keep Shusha, but they refused.  https://t.me/rian_ru/65790
    4) the accusations of treason directed at Pashinyan are unfounded.  https://t.me/rian_ru/65786
    5) think what you want of the Turkish presence in Azerbaijan, but it does not violate international law.  https://t.me/rian_ru/65787
    6) Turkish interposition forces would have been a provocation: Erdogan understood this.  https://t.me/rian_ru/65788
    7) thousands of deaths: it is not cinema, it is a tragedy for real people.  The truce is a great achievement.  https://t.me/rian_ru/65781
    Cool if the truce stabilizes relations, a definitive solution can be reached on the status of Karabakh.  https://t.me/rian_ru/65783

    Putin straight dropping nukes on motherf%^$ers. He's had a pretty decent year so far I'd say.
    Also I see that our typical "omfg stupid oil state" liberals shut up once it was obvious that service industries basically evaporated away over the course of the year. Now Brent is back in the + for the gov budget and we're just piling on the reserves and investments while everybody else is running 15% deficits.

    Service industries are actually doing well, just not the Liberal related ones.
    Also Brent stabilizing at 40 is something pretty fucked up. It was my prevision, but it's been really long in the tooth. Oil will go up again and the real bbl cost is at 55/60 anyway.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:36 pm

    kvs wrote:Pussynian let NK defenders flap in the wind and using phony nationalism as a fig leaf robbed them of a chance at a better
    deal.

    But Russia apparently is the one pulling all the gangster moves.  


    There was no "good deal".
    Putin says as much.

    It seems nobody reads what Vova says.
    Also ironical that Putin decides to stab Pash twice, once when he says that Pash refused to stop fighting around the 20th of October and twice when he says Pash didn't betray Armenia...

    Putin forgets he also brokered a ceasefire the 10th of October which Azerbaijan and Turkey made short work of.

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:04 pm

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    The Russian MoD's infographic of Russian peacekeeping positions from today. 2261/
    http://mil.ru/russian_peacek



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    Post  miketheterrible Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:54 pm

    GarryB wrote:Considering the sort of bill the west gets when it intervenes no wonder they think this deployment will bankrupt Russia... with an economy the size of Spain...

    Of course Russia doesn't spend anywhere near as much as the west does on its military, unless it is necessary.

    The US would never develop a bombing system for accurately dropping cheap dumb bombs... not enough profit.

    No wonder the west is so often wrong about Russia...

    Yeap

    They can do it without having to lift much or spend a whole lot.  Their op in Syria has been very cheap for Russia and effective.  Something that a lot of countries could learn from.  But they wont cause of an ego trip.

    Maximmmm wrote:
    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:#Putin's opinion on the War in #NagornoKarabakh.
    1) under international law the N.K.  is Azerbaidjan, the Tashkent Pact guarantees only Armenian territory.  https://t.me/rian_ru/65792
    2) an Armenian rejection of the agreements would be suicidal https://t.me/rian_ru/65794
    3) on October 20 we had an agreement that would have allowed the Armenians to keep Shusha, but they refused.  https://t.me/rian_ru/65790
    4) the accusations of treason directed at Pashinyan are unfounded.  https://t.me/rian_ru/65786
    5) think what you want of the Turkish presence in Azerbaijan, but it does not violate international law.  https://t.me/rian_ru/65787
    6) Turkish interposition forces would have been a provocation: Erdogan understood this.  https://t.me/rian_ru/65788
    7) thousands of deaths: it is not cinema, it is a tragedy for real people.  The truce is a great achievement.  https://t.me/rian_ru/65781
    Cool if the truce stabilizes relations, a definitive solution can be reached on the status of Karabakh.  https://t.me/rian_ru/65783

    Putin straight dropping nukes on motherf%^$ers. He's had a pretty decent year so far I'd say.
    Also I see that our typical "omfg stupid oil state" liberals shut up once it was obvious that service industries basically evaporated away over the course of the year. Now Brent is back in the + for the gov budget and we're just piling on the reserves and investments while everybody else is running 15% deficits.

    Those morons would have figured it out long ago when oil prices were low, Russia's industrial production PMI was still above 50.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:24 pm

    https://ria.ru/20201118/karabakh-1585202765.html

    2020 Nagorno-Karabakh war #2 - Page 40 Blkbullet1
    Turkey's Parliament OKs Peacekeepers for Azerbaijan

    Pompeo Welcomes Nagorno-Karabakh Ceasefire, Urges for Political Solution
    2020 Nagorno-Karabakh war #2 - Page 40 Blkbullet1 Nagorno-Karabakh Talks Over Ceasefire 'Ambiguities' to Take Place Wednesday: France
    2020 Nagorno-Karabakh war #2 - Page 40 Blkbullet1 Armenia, Azerbaijan Exchange Troops' Bodies After Ceasefire
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GnHN4ntUu0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH6oz4qTeOM
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    Post  kvs Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:04 pm



    Funny situation, the yanquis are demanding from Russia to account for the role of Turkey in the NK settlement even
    though Turkey is part of NATzO. Washington is worried about Turkey's growing military strength. Also funny
    that NATzO (aside from Turkey) wants to muscle in on any NK settlement and are trying to use the Minsk format
    to do it. America was loudly proclaiming that the Minsk group is useless and it would withdraw back in 2017.

    There are only four sides in the NK settlement: Azerbaijan, Armenia, Turkey and Russia. America already
    has Armenian in its pocket so it can use its proxies if it wants to participate in the settlement.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:32 pm

    https://www.pravdareport.com/world/145257-nagorno_karabakh_war/
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    Post  kvs Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:33 pm



    So Russia is a gangster state for preventing the total loss of NK to the Azeris according to the resident Russia hating prick.
    Well, Pussynian has threatened to use the Armenian army to suppress demonstrators calling for his ouster. That must
    be a real democracy loving, opposite of gangster move.

    Pussynian is clearly a chutzpah monkey. He didn't use the Armenian army to save NK, but will use it to save his quisling
    ass. As I predicted, this NATzO occupational regime will not go away.


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    Post  par far Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:43 pm

    "Karabakh War Could Be Stopped Weeks Before Fall Of Shusha, But Pashinyan Was Refusing To Accept Russian Peacekeepers: Putin"


    https://southfront.org/karabakh-war-could-be-stopped-weeks-before-fall-of-shusha-but-pashinyan-was-refusing-to-accept-russian-peacekeepers/










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    Post  par far Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:47 pm

    kvs wrote:

    So Russia is a gangster state for preventing the total loss of NK to the Azeris according to the resident Russia hating prick.
    Well, Pussynian has threatened to use the Armenian army to suppress demonstrators calling for his ouster.   That must
    be a real democracy loving, opposite of gangster move.

    Pussynian is clearly a chutzpah monkey.   He didn't use the Armenian army to save NK, but will use it to save his quisling
    ass.   As I predicted, this NATzO occupational regime will not go away.




    Pussy may stay in power but his influence will be reduced and he will have target on his back.








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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:06 pm


    Nice to see people agreeing with me...

    Putin Says Armenia’s Recognition of Karabakh Could Have ‘Significantly Influenced’ Outcome

    Armenia’s recognition of Artsakh could have “significantly influenced” the course of the conflict throughout the years, said Russian President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday, citing Russia’s recognition of Abkhazia, South Ossetia and Crimea as examples of how his country has handled people’s right to self-determination.....


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    Post  Isos Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:46 pm

    It's easy to talk after. Why didn't he said that last year. Turks were preparing this war for months. They knew that...

    He is aiming at destabilizing armenian power with this only.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:23 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Nice to see people agreeing with me...

    Putin Says Armenia’s Recognition of Karabakh Could Have ‘Significantly Influenced’ Outcome

    Armenia’s recognition of Artsakh could have “significantly influenced” the course of the conflict throughout the years, said Russian President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday, citing Russia’s recognition of Abkhazia, South Ossetia and Crimea as examples of how his country has handled people’s right to self-determination.....



    That's funny since Abkhazia and Ossetia recognize Arstakh...

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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:49 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:...That's funny since Abkhazia and Ossetia recognize Arstakh...

    And yet Armenia doesn't of all people

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    Post  LMFS Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:34 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:...That's funny since Abkhazia and Ossetia recognize Arstakh...

    And yet Armenia doesn't of all people


    lol1 lol1 lol1 lol1 lol1
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    Post  GarryB Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:49 am

    He is aiming at destabilizing armenian power with this only.

    He is not offering 100% blind support to an Armenian leader who was looking elsewhere for support and friendship... is he supposed to ignore this guy sucking up to the west.... if the leader of Armenia can go west surely they will have his back and he can relax.

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