2020 US elections. What's the status of pindostan and their 2nd civil war?

franco wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:...Right....You know I remember when Putin put up those live video feeds during an election where you could literally watch people stuffing ballots into the box after voting hours when the stations where closed....

Well that was the whole purpose of those cameras

Sure and I doubt Putin would have lost anyway, but sitting there pretending Russia doesn't have its own fair share of voter Fraud is moronic

Yes but deflecting from the serious issues that America has in it's system towards others prevents fixing the system... that should be your priority.

Maximmmm wrote:Shh, the whole point is that they don't want democracy at home so they can pull this shit
I'm glad Trump isn't giving in like a little Bi%^#, keep the fun train rolling!
Although it seems like judges are shutting down his lawsuits "because there is no evidence"  

SeigSoloyvov wrote:The problem is with this election they allowed mail-in votes which never should have been allowed in the first place.

AlfaT8 wrote:Computer "Glitches" detected and confirmed in Michigan for around 6000 votes, more to come no doubt, and in other States.

AOC is demanding a hit-list of Trump supporters to be made, damn, Purges happen real fast.
Demands for Tucker Carlson to be arrested have been made, by Keith Olbermann.

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

franco wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:...Right....You know I remember when Putin put up those live video feeds during an election where you could literally watch people stuffing ballots into the box after voting hours when the stations where closed....

Well that was the whole purpose of those cameras

Sure and I doubt Putin would have lost anyway, but sitting there pretending Russia doesn't have its own fair share of voter Fraud is moronic

Yes but deflecting from the serious issues that America has in it's system towards others prevents fixing the system... that should be your priority.

I am not deflecting. In the 2020 vote there are massive problems but I am only commenting on the ones I've seen people raise here, the system e had before this was fine and it did the job to prevent large-scale fraud. in 2016 Dems tried so hard with the help of Obama to prevent trump but the system did its job and safe guarded the vote.

The problem is with this election they allowed mail-in votes which never should have been allowed in the first place.

1. Someone claimed there as more votes then voters in MI, that was false.

2. The sudden 130k vote Jump Biden got was a clerical error and his vote counted was lowered back to the correct number within a few hours of the error, the guy who made the tweet also took it down and said it was a mistake on his part.

Yes there are some instances of voter fraud going on, I don't doubt that. I have seen evidence of some dead people voting, Trump supporters in AZ being given sharpies when the ballot said not to use them.

I also said "it's own share" my statement clearly implied there is some voter fraud in the US I just pointed out to act like Russia doesn't have its own is silly. Someone made that claim, I only responded to it.

flamming_python wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

franco wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:...Right....You know I remember when Putin put up those live video feeds during an election where you could literally watch people stuffing ballots into the box after voting hours when the stations where closed....

Well that was the whole purpose of those cameras

Sure and I doubt Putin would have lost anyway, but sitting there pretending Russia doesn't have its own fair share of voter Fraud is moronic

Yes but deflecting from the serious issues that America has in it's system towards others prevents fixing the system... that should be your priority.

I am not deflecting. In the 2020 vote there are massive problems but I am only commenting on the ones I've seen people raise here, the system e had before this was fine and it did the job to prevent large-scale fraud. in 2016 Dems tried so hard with the help of Obama to prevent trump but the system did its job and safe guarded the vote.

The problem is with this election they allowed mail-in votes which never should have been allowed in the first place.

1. Someone claimed there as more votes then voters in MI, that was false.

2. The sudden 130k vote Jump Biden got was a clerical error and his vote counted was lowered back to the correct number within a few hours of the error, the guy who made the tweet also took it down and said it was a mistake on his part.

Yes there are some instances of voter fraud going on, I don't doubt that. I have seen evidence of some dead people voting, Trump supporters in AZ being given sharpies when the ballot said not to use them.

I also said "it's own share" my statement clearly implied there is some voter fraud in the US I just pointed out to act like Russia doesn't have its own is silly. Someone made that claim, I only responded to it.

You're nothing more than a disciple of globalist imperialism, constantly defending the indefensible, not out of any principles but of some pedestrian 'patriotism'. Patriotism has its place but it's something that's inward, wanting to make your country better, or to defend it. The USA faces no external threat and the election of this senile tool of the establishment does nothing to make it better.

The latest vote has exposed the US as yet another desposy, just like Russia, where the candidate favoured by the ruling clans wins due to their control over the media, the electoral process, the intelligence services, the courts, etc...
All of these institutions are controlled by the rich and powerful and they will never allow someone elected by the people to gain and maintain power; it's always capital that decides.
Any one-man or oligarchy controlled system has a mechanism of democratic formalities. But it doesn't change anything for real.

The only reason Trump won 4 years ago is because the establishment wasn't prepared for it, but this time around they've swung the elections with their fake mail-in votes and will ruthlessly reign in Trump if he attempts to call for an uprising against it

AlfaT8 wrote:"The software used to tabulate the votes in one county sent at least 6,000 Trump votes to Biden. 47 counties used the software."

Anyone remember that movie about Robin Williams winning the election thanks to a software Glitch.

UPDATE: Ooh dear, "The software that flipped votes on the machines in MI was created by a company owned by Nancy Pelosi's former Chief of Staff. Dominion Software. 2nd largest voting software in the country. Used in most States."

flamming_python wrote:You're nothing more than a disciple of globalist imperialism, constantly defending the indefensible...

Trump denies Biden victory, promises legal action

President Donald Trump has refused to acknowledge Joe Biden’s apparent victory, and promised to start prosecuting cases to ensure “the rightful winner is seated.”

The Associated Press declared Biden the winner on Saturday morning, after the former vice president expanded his lead over Trump in the crucial battleground state of Pennsylvania. Victory there pushed Biden over the 270 electoral votes necessary to secure the White House.

In a statement released through his campaign, Trump said that “Joe Biden is rushing to falsely pose as the winner,” with the help of his “media allies.”

Trump insisted that Biden’s win was fraudulent, and that ballots for Biden were “fraudulent, manufactured, or cast by ineligible or deceased voters,” and announced that his legal team would “start prosecuting our case in court” on Monday.

“Legal votes decide who is president, not the news media,” Trump stated.

In addition to Trump’s lawsuits, recounts will likely be called in several states. The Trump campaign has suggested that it will call for one in Wisconsin, where Biden won by just over 20,000 votes, while Georgia’s secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger, said on Friday that “there will be a recount in Georgia.” Biden currently leads Trump by around 7,000 votes in Georgia.

In a press conference in Philadelphia on Saturday, Trump’s lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, claimed to have interviewed witnesses who saw fraud occurring in the city in recent days.

https://www.rt.com/usa/506036-trump-denies-bidens-victory

Sujoy wrote:I've been highlighting the nefarious role played by the House of Windsor through their Deep State assets (media, think tanks, politicians, corporations, intelligence organizations and bureaucrats) for the last one month.

They manipulate elections in every single country including the U.S and Russia. Of course Trump, Putin among several other world leaders are routinely described as fascist, racist, supremacist etc to divert attention from the real evil doers but reality is, all these world leaders are controlled by the UK royal family. Notice even Putin with his vast economic and military power could have wreaked havoc on the UK and yet all that he does is restrict himself to just some mild criticism of the UK and that too just of  the UK government (and rarely the royal family).

Two things I found startling - (a) how the Deep State has come out of the shadows to manipulate the U.S election result in plain sight and (b) how the Deep State today is vehemently anti Trump. The same individual they helped become President 4 years ago.

miketheterrible wrote:
Oh shut the fuck up already.

Nothing like Russia.

Russia doesn't have mail in ballots that all vote for 1 guy.

Media in Russia always attacks Putin all the time.  Meduza is a perfect example of that.

Courts were never in Russias favor, they were always subjected to ECHR and only recently stopped.

that was the most retarded thing you ever said.

Russias elections are monitored by dozens of different countries even down to the god damn voting booth.

Only difference is, Russians are smart and know not to vote for some communist assholes who are nothing more than stooges for the west.  They dont vote for people who threw their country under the bus 30 years ago.

Regular wrote:I don't think much will change with Bidden. Deep state never went never went away and the swamp wasn't drained

kvs wrote:

Regular wrote:I don't think much will change with Bidden. Deep state never went never went away and the swamp wasn't drained

I disagree.  If there was a unified deep state, then we would not have seen the insane polarization of the last 4 years.
It would have been like the previous decades with some level of frenzy like under Bush Jr.   The events of the last 4 years
are singular for the USA so the idea that everything was the same as far as elites were concerned is not valid.