2020 US elections. What's the status of pindostan and their 2nd civil war?

Biden got to 270, so he is the next president.

SeigSoloyvov wrote:Biden got to 270, so he is the next president.

The Fate of Empires, i guess.
Biden is now proof positive of America entering the final stage, Decline/Fall.

That said, let's wait for the Supreme Courts verdict.

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:...How do you guys predict the situation to develop in the near future?

Biden went on record that he will be one term president which is clearly setting up a groundwork for Harris to run next term, female and black is preffered combo of liberal crowd, Tucker Carlson could go for Republicans in 24

Trump will be fighting this tooth and nail, they already said that they want to throw him in prison (Clinton Cartel doesn't take kindly to being trifled with)  

Polarisation is insane and unprecedented

This means that for next 4 years they will be too busy with their own issues while foreign policy will be left on auto-pilot

And if he tries making big waves abroad while situation at home is like this it will be even worse for them

Biden wants to ally with China against Russia (dogma of the old white European political elite of the USA) but after last 4 years of their own voters declaring China the Devil over Uighur and Hong Kong ''oppression'' it will be nearly impossible for him to make that switch, China is anathema for USA now which means they will be stuck

They may try to reheat the Ukraine or do something in Syria but Russians are way too ready for that to work (and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't mind taking some more chunks from east Ukraine and adding them to Novorossia)  

Biden (very loudly) promised to his voters complete opposite of what his bosses want him to do which means that his only course of action is to do nothing while yelling that he will do something until his term ends and he can peace out

PapaDragon wrote:

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:...How do you guys predict the situation to develop in the near future?

Biden went on record that he will be one term president which is clearly setting up a groundwork for Harris to run next term, female and black is preffered combo of liberal crowd, Tucker Carlson could go for Republicans in 24

Trump will be fighting this tooth and nail, they already said that they want to throw him in prison (Clinton Cartel doesn't take kindly to being trifled with)  

Polarisation is insane and unprecedented

This means that for next 4 years they will be too busy with their own issues while foreign policy will be left on auto-pilot

And if he tries making big waves abroad while situation at home is like this it will be even worse for them

Biden wants to ally with China against Russia (dogma of the old white European political elite of the USA) but after last 4 years of their own voters declaring China the Devil over Uighur and Hong Kong ''oppression'' it will be nearly impossible for him to make that switch, China is anathema for USA now which means they will be stuck

They may try to reheat the Ukraine or do something in Syria but Russians are way too ready for that to work (and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't mind taking some more chunks from east Ukraine and adding them to Novorossia)  

Biden (very loudly) promised to his voters complete opposite of what his bosses want him to do which means that his only course of action is to do nothing while yelling that he will do something until his term ends and he can peace out

thats the thing, the whole game they both played (democrats and Republicans) against China, I dont think China is interested much more with USA other than trade. They will take the trade deals but that is about it. China has signed far too many agreements (when Obama was in power) with Russia, that there is no turning back between China and Russia tbh. Maybe sometime in the future but definately not now.

America screwed up its foreign policy pretty badly here.

I find it amusing how Arizona was 'flipped' in favor of Biden. I remember through the 2010's that Arizona was definitively 'red' and was one of the nexuses for Anti-Obama sentiment with figures like Sheriff Arpaio. It went suddenly 'blue' out of no where, but we all know why.

SeigSoloyvov wrote:Biden got to 270, so he is the next president.

No he hasn't. That's fake news atm.

That is a projected by the media figure based on current, many incomplete, counts. Too many states, not just the disputed ones, have not declared yet.

He is likely to win but even he hasn't claimed it yet. It could be the middle of next month before he is legally President elect.

Trump released this today

“We all know why Joe Biden is rushing to falsely pose as the winner, and why his media allies are trying so hard to help him: they don’t want the truth to be exposed. The simple fact is this election is far from over.

Joe Biden has not been certified as the winner of any states, let alone any of the highly contested states headed for mandatory recounts, or states where our campaign has valid and legitimate legal challenges that could determine the ultimate victor.

In Pennsylvania, for example, our legal observers were not permitted meaningful access to watch the counting process. Legal votes decide who is president, not the news media.

“Beginning Monday, our campaign will start prosecuting our case in court to ensure election laws are fully upheld and the rightful winner is seated. The American People are entitled to an honest election: that means counting all legal ballots, and not counting any illegal ballots. This is the only way to ensure the public has full confidence in our election. It remains shocking that the Biden campaign refuses to agree with this basic principle and wants ballots counted even if they are fraudulent, manufactured, or cast by ineligible or deceased voters. Only a party engaged in wrongdoing would unlawfully keep observers out of the count room – and then fight in court to block their access.

“So what is Biden hiding? I will not rest until the American People have the honest vote count they deserve and that Democracy demands.”

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/media/statement-from-president-donald-j.-trump/

PapaDragon wrote:

This means that for next 4 years they will be too busy with their own issues while foreign policy will be left on auto-pilot

And if he tries making big waves abroad while situation at home is like this it will be even worse for them

Beg to disagree.

The problems at home, in particular Covid and finances, will almost inevitably lead to the need for a war to distract the people, especially as the Democrats love overseas wars. My bet is Venezuela as the main alternative, Iran, is likely to bite back.

kvs wrote:I will totally disagree with Flamming about Russia being the same as the USA but the rest of his comment is spot on.

Hahaha exactly! That was a quite good post actually, until the classical commie difficulty to assume every civilized society has productive forces and organizative ones appeared, the exact reason why communism is so nice as an idea and so bad in the practice if you ask me...

Let us face it: the elites rule ALL countries. Some of them are patriotic and do their f* job to develop and protect the country, normally because they depend on that country not being eaten up to survive themselves, while some are leeches without any sort of identification with their "country" but rather to the metropolis. When you have the first situation, a Putin or a Xi Jinping comes to power, when not, normally because your country has been colonized or subjugated somehow, you get leaders like the Western or Latin American ones, which run the country like a farm instead of like they would take care of their home. No need to clarify to what group Biden belongs I think...

JohninMK wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:

This means that for next 4 years they will be too busy with their own issues while foreign policy will be left on auto-pilot

And if he tries making big waves abroad while situation at home is like this it will be even worse for them

Beg to disagree.

The problems at home, in particular Covid and finances, will almost inevitably lead to the need for a war to distract the people, especially as the Democrats love overseas wars. My bet is Venezuela as the main alternative, Iran, is likely to bite back.

I get where you are going with this, but no Venezuela wont cut it.
It's just gonna look like another War to waste time, lives and money for the MIC.

What the Dems need is a unifying enemy, and there are only China and Russia, considering there ties with China, we know that's not gonna happen, so expect a renewed effort in Belarus, Ukraine, Syria and maybe Iran.
Russia better prep themselves for a very annoying 4 years.

miketheterrible wrote:...I dont think China is interested much more with USA other than trade.  They will take the trade deals but that is about it...

Oh believe me, China would love to go back under USA's skirt and would jump at first opportunity

But their image among US voters is completely torched, nobody would risk doing anything with them (unless they give away Hong Kong, Xinjiang and Tibet)

JohninMK wrote:...The problems at home, in particular Covid and finances, will almost inevitably lead to the need for a war to distract the people, especially as the Democrats love overseas wars. My bet is Venezuela as the main alternative, Iran, is likely to bite back.

True, I wasn't considering Venezuela

But Iran is off the table, they are Obama's buddies and Obama is new Jesus

AlfaT8 wrote:
I get where you are going with this, but no Venezuela wont cut it.
It's just gonna look like another War to waste time, lives and money for the MIC.

What the Dems need is a unifying enemy, and there are only China and Russia, considering there ties with China, we know that's not gonna happen, so expect a renewed effort in Belarus, Ukraine, Syria and maybe Iran.
Russia better prep themselves for a very annoying 4 years.

To an extent I agree with you but the countries you mention are in some ways already tried war failures or invisible to the US electorate or in the case of Iran likely to cause grief in return. None are likely to see an actual US full frontal attack.

There is really no slam dunk target.

The dogs are already howling in joy, welcoming the return of their masters...  

NATO Secretary General congratulated Biden on his election victory

https://www.militarynews.ru/story.asp%3Frid%3D1%26nid%3D541239%26lang%3DRU

LMFS wrote:The dogs are already howling in joy to see their masters return...  

NATO Secretary General congratulated Biden on his election victory

https://www.militarynews.ru/story.asp%3Frid%3D1%26nid%3D541239%26lang%3DRU

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The most DC celebration. A NATO flag draped around a Biden supporter in front of the White House.


https://twitter.com/idreesali114/status/1325151813969043461

Of course, there is no usurer without their hitman

From 1946 to 2000 alone, the US government has meddled in the elections of other sovereign countries 81 times.


https://twitter.com/sahouraxo/status/1324787930666160128

These two veterans have something to say about war criminal Joe Biden:
“Millions are dead in Iraq. We actually fought in your damn wars. You sent us to hurt civilians.”

https://twitter.com/sahouraxo/status/1324457462712344576

If anyone is still wondering if Biden is senile:

Joe Biden says he voted for the Iraq war... to stop the Iraq war.

How does he say this stuff with a straight face?

https://twitter.com/sahouraxo/status/1324475104730832896

Joe Bidenshenko is giving victory speech

I have a feeling that handover ceremony will be pretty awkward considering how Trump doesn't feel like leaving

Also, is it possible for US president to legally pardon himself?

PapaDragon wrote:
Joe Bidenshenko is giving victory speech

I have a feeling that handover ceremony will be pretty awkward considering how Trump doesn't feel like leaving

Also, is it possible for US president to legally pardon himself?

Hard to say the constitution doesn't say a President cannot this is something the supreme court would need to rule on really.

GarryB wrote:

It would be impossible to prove Fraud with paper ballots since the only way to do it is basically check each vote to see if the person is alive or exists. So finding evidence is near impossible without spending months and months.

The US government keeps enormous lists and careful tabs on people around the world... you saying they can't tell whether george smith is alive or dead... a quick look to see if he is paying tax would be a good start, and collecting information on people who died would also help as  something that could be quickly checked and compared...

Biden went on record that he will be one term president which is clearly setting up a....

Well if he is going to be a one term president he really does not need to do anything... his claim to fame in US history will be the Democrat who stopped Trumps second term... that will be enough... they will want a peace prize for that I guess...

No, it cannot.

They would need to verify Smith is alive and is walking about by confirming it in person, since Smith would have given enough details to prove they exist to get a ballot in the first place. So the paperwork would be worthless, this isn't some Hollywood movie where you can press a single button and go "Okay its not fake"

So who think they will get their civil war ?

If it happens I'm sure some countries will send thousabd of ak-47 for free there, you know,  Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Russia, North korea... to feed that war like they fed wars inside those countries

A weired thing however is that Israel was for Trump and since the election is clearly staged the deep state seems to  have changed.