The proof is well out there for anyone to see
What proof. Where is the proof?
the only people who don't choose to see it at pro-Russian fanboys period,
Which means all the anti Russia people on this forum see the proof... so form a queue and post it.
you can make up all the stuff you want you try and BS it all you want.
I am not making anything up, I am waiting for proof.
Doesn't change the fact Wagner is PMC group used by Russia for national interests.
What fact? Where?
Wagner is made of former military personnel but not all are Russian as we have already established, so why would these non Russian PMC members care about Russian interests if they are not getting paid to do so? And if they are getting paid to do so does that still mean they are Putins tools?
But I am talking to someone who is so pro-russian they will never admit facts that make Russians look bad and will only make up excuses for the Russians,
Now you are just talking bollocks, you said yourself this merc group is not Blackwater and does not have any open contracts to murder people like Blackwater did and does. I want your proof that Wagner works for Putin.
so I know expecting you to see such a blatant fact is beyond hopeless.
So now the facts are blatant so you should be able to list them in order of importance right?
I dont watch BBC, CNN of Fox News. All I am saying is that all major powers use mercenaries/PMC.
Based on what evidence? Are you also going to claim all major powers have bases in Cuba where they torture people and hold them illegally for unlimited periods outside of their own justice system in a sort of limbo where they can do as they please? Is Russia supporting the illegal drug trade in Afghanistan for the purpose of ensuring plenty of dangerous drugs get into Russia and Europe in the hopes it would undermine the EU like the US does?
The people working for Wagner, I think comes from all over Eastern Europe.
So these people working for Wagner... are they there to follow orders from Putin.... is Vladimir Putin the CEO of Wagner?
Or are they the A team that only saves the victims and the innocent and occasionally helps the
Russian Government because they are just patriots...
They even hand back the money when the job is done because they are so nice...
I have no idea but that's what Garry is claiming and that maybe they are putting terrorists and mercs on the same level?
Talk about blaming someone for your own actions, you are confusing me with the United States of America... who will get in to bed with ISIS and Al Quada if they think they can hurt Russian interests. They will pay millions of dollars to Blackwater to "Make problems go away"... but every country does that... you don't need evidence... just say it a lot.
of course, Russia doesn't use Mercs which s laughable.
Has I said I don't care that Russia uses Mercs everyone does it
Well that is a good place to start then is it not... list the French, British, Italian, German and Belgian mercs that get used by their respective governments for such jobs...
You are in the business so you must be able to list them from the top of your head...
Russian made counter UAV Groza-S in Lybia. Its tests against turkish military drones (and not the small ones but the bigger ones) will be nice to analyze and see what work and what don't and how good isthe system.
Spotted in the end of may this year.
Well this is an opportunity isn't it... if the Russians are testing equipment in Libya it would be a Wagner controlled operation surely because Wagner is operating there.
I would suggest that Wagner might have all sorts of access to weapons and equipment on the international market, but I doubt they would use them instead of actual special forces and Russian units tasked with protecting civilian technicians who are testing equipment in a war zone.
Patrols through Syrian streets are Russian military as well... not mercs... why are they not copying the Americans and doing what America does?
Could it be possible they are not the same as America?