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    Project 23900 "Ivan Rogov" Amphibious assault ship

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    Post  George1 Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:13 am

    Mitrofan Moskalenko helicopter carrier to become Russian Black Sea Fleet flagship — source

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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Oct 08, 2021 10:02 pm

    George1 wrote:Mitrofan Moskalenko helicopter carrier to become Russian Black Sea Fleet flagship — source

    So, second one gets to be flagship?

    Interesting, I expected Rogov to become a flagship, wonder why they went with this?

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    Post  medo Fri Oct 08, 2021 11:12 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    George1 wrote:Mitrofan Moskalenko helicopter carrier to become Russian Black Sea Fleet flagship — source

    So, second one gets to be flagship?

    Interesting, I expected Rogov to become a flagship, wonder why they went with this?


    I think Rogov will be flagship in Pacific fleet and Moskalenko in Black Sea fleet.
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    Post  GarryB Sat Oct 09, 2021 4:52 am

    That is a surprise... I would say the Kuznetsov would have to be the flagship of the Northern Fleet... the fact that they are basing this ship in the Black sea is rather interesting... perhaps an expansion at Tartus or the Sudan, because it makes little sense having a 40K ton helicopter carrier in the Black Sea.

    BTW these ships can be sailed in and out of the Black Sea because they are landing craft and not just aircraft carriers.

    I suspect basing one in the Black Sea is the result of British and general western provocations in the Black Sea over the last few years has resulted in them deciding to base a helicopter carrier there... which will mean they can go and play with Egypt more and have landing practise all around the Med....
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    Post  Mir Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:00 am

    Excess to and from the Mediterranean Sea is quite vital for Russia. Large amphibian ships like the Mitrofan Moskalenko would play a vital role in attempting to keep the many choke points open along the way. The Pacific has similar choke points but Russia has some good friends in the area. Not too many friendly nations with big naval ships in the Black Sea though.
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    Post  ALAMO Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:17 am

    Mir wrote:Excess to and from the Mediterranean Sea is quite vital for Russia. Large amphibian ships like the Mitrofan Moskalenko would play a vital role in attempting to keep the many choke points open along the way. The Pacific has similar choke points but Russia has some good friends in the area. Not too many friendly nations with big naval ships in the Black Sea though.

    Egypt, Algier, Syria, Libia ... I would say that they are more comfortable than it was in the SU times.
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    Post  owais.usmani Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:27 am

    Man you guys stop with this off topic discussion already! Off Topic Off Topic
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    Post  Shadåw Fri Oct 15, 2021 2:20 am

    Has there been any recent pictures from the Shipyard? Be it of the hulls or separate hull sections, it's been awhile since they started after all and I'm curious about progression.

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    Post  GarryB Fri Oct 15, 2021 10:24 am

    I seem to remember the Soviets were using floating moorings where groups of ships could moor together at sea in the open ocean and transfer supplies and fuel and crew as well as weapons and ammo without having to stop at a port for instance.

    In mid ocean you could sail up in an oil carrying ship and perhaps supply some of the ships there with fuel oil and then move on... it was a handy way of servicing groups of ships in an area at once without having to chase each one down individually... and being in international waters you didn't need anyones permission.

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