Project 23900 "Ivan Rogov" Amphibious assault ship

Firebird wrote:Is there any confirmation anywhere as to what these 2 ships will actually weigh?

I've heard reports of between 25k tons and around 40k tons.
I think Tass mentioned 40k tons somewhere (I'm not sure). And Tass are unlikely to be wrong?
There doesn't seem to be official confirmation anywhere.

Krepost wrote:

Firebird wrote:Is there any confirmation anywhere as to what these 2 ships will actually weigh?

I've heard reports of between 25k tons and around 40k tons.
I think Tass mentioned 40k tons somewhere (I'm not sure). And Tass are unlikely to be wrong?
There doesn't seem to be official confirmation anywhere.

They want you (and everybody else) to keep guessing.
I am not joking.

PapaDragon wrote:
Scale model of the damn thing was accidentally filmed during acceptance day for nuke subs, not much though, behind VVP on the left:






This was also posted on same tread but I have no Idea what it is so take  a guess:

Krepost wrote:...
Last photo: Whatever it is, it looks like has the hull of an icebreaker.

Edit: I figured it out, it is Project 1550 Khaski (Husky)....

Helicopter between Ka-52 and Ka-27 is the expected MINOGA.

PapaDragon wrote:
Scale model of the damn thing was accidentally filmed during acceptance day for nuke subs, not much though, behind VVP on the left:







It's like analysing sat photos with this stuff




This was also posted on same tread but I have no Idea what it is so take  a guess:

GarryB wrote:Looking at its size compared with the Mi-8, I was thinking it might be an Mi-38 navalised... but the coaxial rotors suggest it is the Minoga.

PapaDragon wrote:

Krepost wrote:...
Last photo: Whatever it is, it looks like has the hull of an icebreaker.

Edit: I figured it out, it is Project 1550 Khaski (Husky)....

Thanks

So Husky would be some kind of Arctic logistics vessel?

LMFS wrote:

GarryB wrote:Looking at its size compared with the Mi-8, I was thinking it might be an Mi-38 navalised... but the coaxial rotors suggest it is the Minoga.

Yes, it looks definitely like the leaked photo we saw before. But I am failing to discern the tail, which would be the most interesting part in order to confirm or deny whether it has a pusher propeller

PapaDragon wrote:Minoga won't have a pusher propeller, that's going on new high-speed helicopter

And we already saw Minoga tail

LMFS wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:Minoga won't have a pusher propeller, that's going on new high-speed helicopter

And we already saw Minoga tail

No we didn't see it, and there are other qualified opinions thinking that it may indeed have such propeller. But we will see

Design Bureau "Sevmash" has developed bearings for universal landing ships (helicopter carriers) of project 23900 "Ivan Rogov" and "Mitrofan Moskalenko", which are being built at the plant "Zaliv" in Kerch. This was announced on Thursday, July 7, in the press service of the Severodvinsk enterprise.

The bearings will be manufactured at Sevmash. An order for their production has been opened in the machine shop No. 4, the press service of the shipyard specified. The first set is planned to be delivered to the Crimean shipyard in July 2023, the second - in 2024.

GarryB wrote:Serious lack of air defence systems...

GarryB wrote:Serious lack of air defence systems...

PapaDragon wrote:

GarryB wrote:Serious lack of air defence systems...

That's what escorts are supposed to do

It would be extremely idiotic to send a single ship alone into range of enemy anti-ship missiles

It might get sunk

That's what escorts are supposed to do

It would be extremely idiotic to send a single ship alone into range of enemy anti-ship missiles

It might get sunk

I wouldn't invest in new ships anyway if they get used the way the old flagship was

Even if you have 48 cells of S300 Fort, and 64 cells of Osa, and 6 CIWS Kashtan, it makes no difference if your commander is a fucking idiot who sails into AsHm range with no escort and unaware of shore battery,

Better just staying at Port on such a day