Syrian War: News #22

Do you think Israel would come to a peace summit laid out by Russia?

I think Israel would attend, but only to hear what Russia has to say and listen to other countries to work out how better to manipulate them and turn them against each other.

They seem set on divide and conquer, but considering their position that is all they have.

You can tell this when India abandoned its longtime relations with Iran to follow the US's demand they stop importing Iranian oil.
Such a decision would probably make the founders of the Indian state and the non-aligned movement roll in their graves.

India is a poor country that's not showing any signs of progress.

India is not a poor country, it has enormous potential... otherwise the US wouldn't even notice it exists.

The US is keen to jump away from Pakistan to India because Pakistan is a poor country that has a lot more problems and nutters than India does, but it does not represent the consumer market that India represents.

China didn't show any signs of progress till the west started investing money and resources into using them to produce their shit for them... but China was smart and used that investment and improved and developed and the west has realised its problem and its mistake.... it wanted a little slave country to make all their stuff for a tiny fraction of what their own work forces could possibly make it for in conditions no westerner would ever put up with.

The Chinese are brilliant at taking something and making a few adjustments to make it cheaper and easier to make then then making a lot of it at the lowest possible price... sometimes that works out really well because the original was over engineered in the first place, but equally it can end up badly... like cheap knockoffs of German naval diesel engines that are not reliable because they used cheap materials, or AK rifles made to the lowest costs possible, which means they can still be reliable but simply are not accurate at any range.

The west realises it has created a Chinese monster... now their first go to option is to pick a neighbour and get them to destroy the monster or at least keep it in check and their first choice would have been Russia because Russia is a threat too... not so much economic these days, more military... but the Russians remember the reverse of this when the west turned China against them during the cold war and wont fall for that sort of shit, so plan B was India... plan C might have been Japan or Indonesia...

The point is that India is a good client for Russia and as long as they don't completely fall for Americas shit they might get the US to fix a lot of their economic problems and build up their infrastructure and invest in moving western commercial production from China to India.... that is a lot of investment, but realistically plan C will be Bangladesh, which would really not benefit India at all.

For Russia trade with China is not going to be the same as with India... China will want Russian ideas and concepts but will want to make everything itself. India wants to make things itself too, but are more likely to buy stuff off the shelf too.

The point is that war would seriously damage both countries, and only the US would be happy about that... a strong and prosperous India and a strong and prosperous China does not mean a weak and vulnerable Russia... actually quite the opposite.

The US is not interested in a strong and prosperous anyone except a strong and prosperous USA.

They are the only bad guys in this game.

So it's only a matter of time before India turns completely hostile against Russia.

There are factions in any country, but India has too much Russian military equipment to just cut Russia off... the cost of replacing all Russian gear with American stuff is what the US MIC is going for, plus a serious counter to China to direct some of those new ships in other directions...

Then there are 1 billion starving Indians who are always looking to escape to more prosperous country like Russia. We are just 150 million.

There will only be 1 billion starving Indians if the US manages to engineer a war with China... in which case I would expect most will want to escape to the US... Russia being demonised will not be an attractive option... especially if relations are not that good.

China is Russia's friend and ally, not a shithole like India.

China, Russia, India are potential power centres in a multipolar future.... the EU could become another pole if it can wrench its face off Americas ass, and the US will likely be another power... the potential for groupings of smaller countries to get together to get a voice is likely too...

Let's not destroy relations with China & Pakistan by getting close to India.

Russia has good military relations with India, and potential relations with China are OK too... why screw either up?

In Europe before WWI the countries and empires all grouped into two massive power blocks in the belief that this will provide stability and safety because no country will attack another country and risk having to fight an entire block of enemy forces even if you have a large block of forces to support you.

Essentially all your allies would provide the enormous threat to any member of the other side so they would not try anything.

The problem was it was bollocks... in fact the two big power blocks that were supposed to prevent wars actually created WWI because when two little countries started fighting they dragged in the rest of Europe with them including the Americans and the British commonwealth.

India thinking that signing shit with the US and Japan and South Korea and Australia will some how make them safe from China is delusional... not only does it not make them safe, it makes China realise normal trade and normal relations with India will not be possible or likely in the future and they are going to militarise their border with India and spend more on potential conflicts with them.... all making conflicts and war much more likely.

The alternative of telling America to **** off and actually talking to China would save both sides trillions of dollars and lead to much better relations between the two neighbours.

Not talking leads to misunderstandings, which is made worse when the Americans are probably talking to India and Japan and SK and Australia on the one hand and to China on the other about how untrustworthy and bad the other side is... just to build up the tensions, so those 10 billion dollar new US made carriers that India wants to buy make more sense...

Makes sense for Russia to keep a few nukes handy against India.

With nuclear propelled cruise missiles of unlimited range, Russia could make tens of thousands of weapons for use during WWIII... as the technology improves they will be able to improve the design and the technology... a low flying cruise missile is hard to detect, but a low flying supersonic cruise missile is actually hard to shoot down.... it takes an enormous amount of energy to move at supersonic speeds at low altitude... not a huge problem for a nuclear powered ramjet... it might make its flight range a quarter of what it was... it can fly for months instead of years perhaps... which is plenty BTW...

The US had plans for a low flying nuclear powered missile that flew at very low altitude at mach 3. The shock wave of it blowing past could kill people on the ground... that is not expending a warhead, or using radiation from the engine exhaust.... that is just the shock wave of flying below 100m at mach 3 for such an enormous weapon... obviously it could damage buildings too... just flying past them.

jhelb wrote:
India is a poor country that's not showing any signs of progress. Consequently, the U.S has completely penetrated India's politics, military and judiciary. So it's only a matter of time before India turns completely hostile against Russia.

Then there are 1 billion starving Indians who are always looking to escape to more prosperous country like Russia. We are just 150 million.

China is Russia's friend and ally, not a shithole like India. Let's not destroy relations with China & Pakistan by getting close to India. Makes sense for Russia to keep a few nukes handy against India.

Russia only has two (four) allies: its army and its navy (and the aerospace defence forces, as well as the strategic nuclear forces) (c).

It would be in Russia's best interest to cultivate ties with all the relevant parties, but not to fully commit so long as the gesture is reciprocated of course. No point in courting someone who does not want the attention.

slasher wrote:During the past 24hrs the RuAF and Syrian forces have let loose in Latakia NE Syria. As they say, never let a good crisis go to waste. Hope they maximize this moment of opportunity while their detractors' gaze is elsewhere for now. Unleash hell.

The Saudis are negotiating with Syria. This means the funding for those inside the Idlib pocket is likely to dry up soon.
I am sure the US has spent large amounts of money with these people, but not as much as the Gulf petrostates.
If the Arabs turn and go back to supporting Syria, then Jordan's support might also dry up, and the US base at Al-Tanf might collapse too.

Hopefully the Iranians will continue to attack US interests in Iraq so the rest will also collapse.

Lots of new weapons specifically scaled and designed for use from drones... an opportunity to test them will be useful.... no matter how many "hospitals" and "childrens schools" and "churches" they hit...