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    Post  GarryB Wed Oct 21, 2020 2:42 am

    Perhaps, if the IAF don't want the Iranians to test their SAMs against their (or US used by them) missiles and glide bombs, the IAF might have to change their tactics.

    Actually I would think the Israelis would be just as interested in seeing how Iranian air defence systems and Iranian air defence organisations perform against their standoff munitions and drones... to see what works and what clearly does not would be valuable information for both sides...
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    Post  nomadski Wed Oct 21, 2020 8:46 am

    In the military exchanges recently between the Americans in PG and Usrael drone in North Iran. The advantage has been for Iran. Learning and duplicating technology. The Imperialists spend a lot on research. Iran can not afford as much. So any net exchange in Tech. Will benefit Iran more. The equipment Iran use to down Usrael plane, will be, most probably off the shelf stuff. Available on international market. Coming to a military sales show near you. No secret there. But operated effectively. Unlike some others................. Now where is my catapult ?  I seen F16........ LOL


    https://youtu.be/JiZ_B60JGmc

    I knew a child that could literally kill two birds with one stone, with one of these. He was expert. Used to collect different shaped stones, for different birds. A lot of practice.....
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    Post  GarryB Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:11 am

    The point though is that it is about tactics and strategies... the Israelis are trying to attack targets and the Iranians are trying to defend targets... the Israelis want to hit the right targets and the Iranians want to hide the locations of their most secret targets and perhaps fool the Israelis into attacking non targets so that if they fail to defend them there are no bad consequences.

    It is more than just this plane and this missile against this radar or sensor and this air defence missile.

    Even just the practise of defending and attacking is useful... what works and what doesn't... what started working but stopped because they adapted to your tactics... how easy are your tactics to defeat and how easy are theirs... this is stuff you don't learn in practise or exercise...

    You can buy almost anything, but how it is used is the important thing.

    By launching stand off attacks from neighbouring countries hiding amongst mountains suggests the S-400s in Syria can see F-35s at normal combat ranges... an F-16 or F-15 could launch attacks from neighbouring countries and could do it much cheaper and easier with more weapons and better range and flight speed, so we already learn that they think not only can the S-400 track them but the S-300 probably can too and they are too scared to risk it...

    Any attack on Iran will likely use standoff munitions too so this is important practise and experience for Iranian forces as well... they need to carefully document their experience because this will be useful information for Iran.

    For Israel, they are trying to hit targets, but don't want to give away too many secrets in terms of weapons... we have already seen them use supposedly neutral Russian aircraft to cover their attacks and they have tried to pretend to be US aircraft with US codes in US held areas of Syrian airspace for attacks too, so they pretty much have no shame and will abuse any neutrals position for a single sneak attack... friends like that eh... Rolling Eyes

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    Post  par far Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:56 am

    This is great to see, hopefully all the Syrians that are in Turkey are rescued from the clutches of Erdog.

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Oct 25, 2020 12:30 am

    Double edged sword if true. Wonder where the counter will be?

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Oct 25, 2020 12:36 am

    Nice and peaceful oil tanker depot, and then......................................someone wanted to send a message

    Al Kussa near Jarablus results from last night.

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    BANG..................the RuAF pay a visit


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    Post  KoTeMoRe Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:36 am

    They blew Faylaq Al Sham's HQ and two weapon's depots this morning. There are over 60 dead and at least as many wounded. I hope the Turks got the message, because I think some one is going to keep sending.

    Also Guymri AB had its first activity in weeks. Turkish TB-2's were flying 20 km from the ARM border.

    Sense at last.
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    Post  LMFS Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:01 pm

    Claims VKS prepared some mass jihadi shashlik today, maybe linked to other news you are posting?

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    Post  KoTeMoRe Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:19 pm

    LMFS wrote:Claims VKS prepared some mass jihadi shashlik today, maybe linked to other news you are posting?

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    Yes comes from a RSTOM account. 250 people KIA/WIA

    Premium Shash ready.

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    Post  Isos Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:03 pm

    More bombing underway. Clearly a message to turks and azeri for their involvement in NK. They can bomb pro turks them near turkish borders freely they will be able to bomb them in Azerbaijan.


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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:36 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:They blew Faylaq Al Sham's HQ and two weapon's depots this morning. There are over 60 dead and at least as many wounded. I hope the Turks got the message, because I think some one is going to keep sending....

    Details:

    https://twitter.com/NotWoofers/status/1320730513942978561

    As many as 100 dead now in the airstrike on the headquarters. Allegedly these were recruits who were about to graduate. Perhaps the Russians bombed their graduation ceremony. I doubt we’ll get imagery from Faylaq al Sham to prove it.

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:39 pm

    If this is what they admit to ...........................

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    So Fajlak al-Sham admits 36 killed members.


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    Post  JohninMK Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:41 pm

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    and that they are trying to prevent the Turkish violations and the armed factions loyal to it on those areas
    by Sputnik
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    Post  Isos Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:19 pm

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    I'm honored to introduce you to Syria's own kamikaze drone. Photo today from an attack on Sarmda, Idlib. By Syria TV.

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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:33 pm


    Is that Lancet drone?


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    Post  Isos Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:45 pm

    I thought the same but on twitter they say it's a syrian produced drone. Maybe a copy with iranian components. Or maybe it's a russian one. I don't really know.
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    Post  medo Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:40 pm

    Syrian War: News #22 - Page 16 Zala-l10

    This is zala lancet. Drone on the photo have different wings.
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    Post  franco Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:12 pm

    Isos wrote:I thought the same but on twitter they say it's a syrian produced drone. Maybe a copy with iranian components. Or maybe it's a russian one. I don't really know.

    I read it was a Syrian made copy of an Iranian drone.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:16 pm

    medo wrote:Syrian War: News #22 - Page 16 Zala-l10

    This is zala lancet. Drone on the photo have different wings.

    It is also bigger. Looks like a 40kg class drone.
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    Post  GarryB Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:44 am

    They can copy or buy any one they like... I just hope they make a lot of them and get good use...
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:52 am

    Russia could have simply put his money in the Serbian ALAS/RALAS system. Same for Armenia. Instead they are going for very limited systems (albeit cheap) for tasks the Russian military does not have.
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    Post  Isos Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:15 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:Russia could have simply put his money in the Serbian ALAS/RALAS system. Same for Armenia. Instead they are going for very limited systems (albeit cheap) for tasks the Russian military does not have.

    That's a missile. Suicide drone allows you to use it also as a recco drones. Missiles needs a target already spotted and once launched you need to quickly achieve the hit, it can't make U turns.

    China has plenty if drones that could have been bought for cheap and do the work.

    Russia is quite late on such systems but is already proposing some.
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    Post  Isos Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:27 pm

    https://mobile.twitter.com/BabakTaghvaee/status/1322720680312537088

    One of those syrian drones hit a target. Really hard to tell which drone it is. Zala lancet uses 4 wing abd this one just 2.
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    Post  GarryB Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:08 am

    Russia could have simply put his money in the Serbian ALAS/RALAS system. Same for Armenia. Instead they are going for very limited systems (albeit cheap) for tasks the Russian military does not have.

    Don't be silly... they already have Hermes almost ready to go... Syria can spend its money any way it pleases but why would Russia invest in something  it is already spending money on and tested in Syria?

    BTW if it was Hermes you likely wouldn't see it because of its flight speed...

    Russia is quite late on such systems but is already proposing some.

    They have all sorts of drones and guided missiles on the brink of entering service/getting tested in Syria from UAV specific weapons to helicopter launched anti armour missiles of various types and sizes and ranges.

    One of those syrian drones hit a target. Really hard to tell which drone it is. Zala lancet uses 4 wing abd this one just 2.

    This drone is said to be rather larger than the Lancet which suggests a proper wing would be justified because it is likely no longer carried around in a launch tube to be fired.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Fri Nov 06, 2020 2:49 pm

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