Syrian War: News #21

Reports of another Ottoman Anka S drone shot down at Zawiya mountain

https://twitter.com/mig29_/status/1234174250942173184?s=21

apparently the Su-24 was shot down via Turkey shooting an Aim-120C7 but the AWAC aircraft guided it.  As the plane shot from within Turkish airspace and never entered Syrian airspace.

Dunno how true that is. I dont think the AWACS can guide the missiles but I may be wrong.

ultimatewarrior wrote:2 Su-24 pilots parachuted to safety. Not a big loss. Soon Syrian air force get dozens of Orion attack planes which are way more deadly than Su-24.

https://twitter.com/Dannymakkisyria/status/1234103863696875520

https://twitter.com/PetoLucem/status/1234156132945551360

Will Syrian airforce get this before Pakfa or after?

miketheterrible wrote:apparently the Su-24 was shot down via Turkey shooting an Aim-120C7 but the AWAC aircraft guided it.  As the plane shot from within Turkish airspace and never entered Syrian airspace.

Dunno how true that is.  I dont think the AWACS can guide the missiles but I may be wrong.

If so the AWACS plane is a legittimare target, even if it is in Turkey... and that costs much more than a drone

miketheterrible wrote:apparently the Su-24 was shot down via Turkey shooting an Aim-120C7 but the AWAC aircraft guided it.  As the plane shot from within Turkish airspace and never entered Syrian airspace.

Dunno how true that is.  I dont think the AWACS can guide the missiles but I may be wrong.

It's the russian EW teams that will be happy .

Most of what turkish write on twitter is bullshit. Don't believe them. F-16 should have problem tracking a su24 at max range.

Isos wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:apparently the Su-24 was shot down via Turkey shooting an Aim-120C7 but the AWAC aircraft guided it.  As the plane shot from within Turkish airspace and never entered Syrian airspace.

Dunno how true that is.  I dont think the AWACS can guide the missiles but I may be wrong.

It's the russian EW teams that will be happy .

Most of what turkish write on twitter is bullshit. Don't believe them. F-16 should have problem tracking a su24 at max range.

Thats why it was tracked by the AWAC. Apparently it was far so the F-16 couldn't track the plane but the F-16's were used to launch the AIM-120's. So they were shooting in the dark, it was the AWACS.

Rodion_Romanovic wrote:
If so the AWACS plane is a legittimare target, even if it is in Turkey... and that costs much more than a drone

Agree. They don't hesitate firing on su-24 not knowing if it was russian or syrian.

Russian crews are in danger and they should fire r-77-1 at f16 firing missiles and r-37 at awacs helping them.

I don't understand why russian are such pussies. Turkey is small player compare to them. They shouldn't be afraid of shooting them down. Even SAA destroyed one f-4 back in 2011.

nomadski wrote:
Yes must target the source that open fire. So planes shooting are legitimate for long range AA missiles. Iran makes the long range AA phoenix. May even have adapted this to fit Russian Mig. Russia can provide own long range. If SAM used. Then SAM site a target. Best taken out with Ballistic missiles. Shut them up quickly.

Can the radar of the russian s400 in Latakia provide target info to guide missiles launched by russian airplanes?

And what about syrian airplanes?

Russian command and control link is different. While it will work for russian jets, it wont work for Syrian.

Also, it all depends on how far the AWCAS was. Its all hard to determine to be frank.

But I agree, if Turkey is shooting at jets within Turkish airspace and not identifying them, it brings a problem to Russia that should force Russia to respond by firing at these planes. Already Russia had flown to intercept F-16's attempting to enter Syrian airspace. So now Turkey is just.....Turkey shooting from Turkish airspace.

Syrian_MC
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The 2 Su-24s were flying about 7 KMs above the ground when they were targeted from above Turkey
The pilots had a medical treatment in Homs

No Truth about targeting the S-300 and its managed by the Russians now

Last time Turkey targeted Aleppo air port was 2 days ago


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The total number of the Turkish downed UAVs today is 9 and 2 small drones (maybe operated by the Jihadis)
The campaign was enforced by AD and MANPADS

We’re not following the updates on the ground, other accounts are doing a great job in that regard


Syrian_MC
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Breaking

11 Grad rockets launched from near Jisir Al Shughur towards Khmemeim AB


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AD units in Masyaf reacted to this attack
No reports of explosions reported in the Syrian coast line.


Syrian_MC
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Breaking

6 cruise missiles crossed the Syrian coast line heading north east

#Syria: RT:
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reports #SAA have retaken Hazarin village just SW of Kafr Nabl. #Idlib.

There must be some kind of agreement or tolerance from SAA, Russia and Iran towards Turkey. SAA is not hitting the outposts deep inside SAA territory and is not on the way to take turkish soldiers as hostage...but this would be normal. And SAA is not striking any turkish positions. SAA is hit hard from publicity point, because a drone strike creates more pr, than a normal attack. And what makes me wonder...Turkey is not attacking with tanks, only artillery and drone strikes. It's a bit treacherous against SAA soldiers now dying, but maybe in the long term genius, because Turkey is now unmasked. Something weird is going on in Idlib, that is sure! During daytime I was convinced SAA will lost in a few weeks Damaskus, but now it could be Turkeys Vietnam, if things are going well. HTS and Turkish Militia lost complete the momentum of war!

What gets on my nerves are the turkish fanboys climbing from one orgasm to another! This nationalism is similar to nationalism in WW1. So to a low percentage the conflict is not controlable anymore or will break ot later again. Some hits to Turkish Army would be nice, to ground turkish fanboys.

#SputnikBreaking

#BREAKING | #Russia сan't guarantee safety of Turkish aviation in #Syria after #Damascus shuts #Idlib airspace – MoD




The Syrian Arab Army and their allies are now in the center of Saraqib

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ahmedfire wrote:#SputnikBreaking

#BREAKING | #Russia сan't guarantee safety of Turkish aviation in #Syria after #Damascus shuts #Idlib airspace – MoD




The Syrian Arab Army and their allies are now in the center of Saraqib

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Now playground for Turkey seems to close.

This is a general problem not just affecting aircraft. In the same way that an F-16 can launch long range missiles, both AAM and ASM, at targets deep in Syria, so also can Turkey's barrel/tube or missile artillery fire munitions far into Syria and have been doing it.

Strictly speaking this is Turkey defacto declaring war on Syria. As a consequence Syria has the right to return fire, particularly at the offending assets. NATO Article 5 doesn't come into it as Turkey started it. That Syria doesn't is an indication that they really don't want to provoke Erdogan into having to declare proper war on Syria, which he would have to do to save face.

The problem for Turkey is what would happen should they, intentionally (unlikely) or accidentally, hit a Russian asset publicly as opposed to somewhere in the fog of a battlefield. OPSEC started out quite tight on both sides but now seems, to an extent, to have fallen apart.

hey Garry, can we ban the terrorist supporter here named the Ottoman? He is for supporting terrorism which is actually against the law here and many western as well as Russia, and he is supporting the murder of Syrian soldiers in Syria by an aggressor country.

miketheterrible wrote:hey Garry, can we ban the terrorist supporter here named the Ottoman?  He is for supporting terrorism which is actually against the law here and many western as well as Russia, and he is supporting the murder of Syrian soldiers in Syria by an aggressor country.

Aggression ain't exactly the same thing as terrorism

PapaDragon wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:hey Garry, can we ban the terrorist supporter here named the Ottoman?  He is for supporting terrorism which is actually against the law here and many western as well as Russia, and he is supporting the murder of Syrian soldiers in Syria by an aggressor country.

Aggression ain't exactly the same thing as terrorism

He is a supporter of HTS obviously. And I consider it the same since they are not there legally and killing soldiers defending their state. Its murder one way or another.

These refugees were created by Erdogan after he gave in to Obongos orders and let his country been used as staging point for the wests salafist foreign legion. If he wants no more refugees he should stop helping Al-Kaida.

Are posts like these recent ones by The Ottoman covered by the 'have to be in the special tweet thread' rule?