Syrian War: News #21

Pretty stupid escalation, whoever did it - Russia or Syria

It's not the way things are done, with direct attacks on NATO soldiers.

Turkish troops should simply have been left to understand, that there is nothing in Idlib left for them to do

Putin or whoever are far too sure of themselves. Whether this was meant as a de-escalation strike or whatever, it was misjudged, and now will lead to further conflict.
RIP to the dead

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

Arrow wrote:Turkey massacres SAA forces. Where's VKS? They allow the operation of Turkish artillery.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bu--OE5MnI&feature=emb_title&has_verified=1

Assuming this video is real in the way it's being presented to which I cannot say it is or isn't at this time. Since time stamps and other things are blurred.

But let's assume it is real, Russia legit just let the turks go in and destroy their allies. That would be total weakness on Russia's part.

One problem is if this is all like yesterday's stuff, the drones would have had to been around for hours upon hours to get the footage.

Well that's what happens

Only way to not 'just let' now is to escelate further.

flamming_python wrote:Pretty stupid escalation, whoever did it - Russia or Syria

It's not the way things are done, with direct attacks on NATO soldiers.

Turkish troops should simply have been left to understand, that there is nothing in Idlib left for them to do

Putin or whoever are far too sure of themselves. Whether this was meant as a de-escalation strike or whatever, it was misjudged, and now will lead to further conflict.
RIP to the dead

Turks directly fire manpads at sukhoi and use their artillery directly. They probably target zone where spetznaz operates. What did they think would happen ?

Turkey is a small country. They can't play with a country that is armed with 5000 nuks, has a immune economy to sanctions and produce state of art weapons. If Erdogan keep thinking he is a new sultan of an empire that doesn't exist he will destroy Turkey.

That's simple to understand. Turkey can't win against Russia.

SeigSoloyvov wrote:Article Five only comes into play if you are attacked on home soil etc your boys getting killed in a foreign land doesn't mean shit. Its amazing I have to explain something so grade school.

Article 5 does not apply if you attack a UN member state from your home soil using long range  munitions. It only applies if you get attacked by an aggressor regardless if the attack is on your home soil or not. NATO was created for peace, not for war. NATO prevented WW3 and the deaths of billions.

Isos wrote:Twitter is closed in Turkey. All those video from drones are likely old video. Turkey asked for the permission to fly armed drones there yesterday and russia said no.

Let them fly. Pantsirs, Buks M2, Pechora 2M easily knock down slow poke prop planes. EU sanctioned Turkey. They can't make any more.

ahmedfire wrote:

If they dare shoot at Russia jet. Watch out. Those old 1970s Hawks are easy prey for Kh-31P Krypton anti AD missies.

ahmedfire wrote:

That site doesn't look new, they look like permanent emplacements.

ultimatewarrior wrote:

ahmedfire wrote:

If they dare shoot at Russia jet. Watch out. Those old 1970s Hawks are easy prey for Kh-31P Krypton anti AD missies.

Static SAM ... only a guy who wants the operators of the system to be killed would deploy that.

flamming_python wrote:Pretty stupid escalation, whoever did it - Russia or Syria

Turkey did it when they decided to play jihad

flamming_python wrote:It's not the way things are done, with direct attacks on NATO soldiers.

It's exactly the way things are done, pimp status ends on the border

Russians do ther job, if only Syrians would do theirs it would be smoother than it is now

flamming_python wrote:Turkish troops should simply have been left to understand, that there is nothing in Idlib left for them to do

They were left to understand but failed to do so

You want to ditch the refugees? Send them to Europe, simple enough...

flamming_python wrote:Putin or whoever are far too sure of themselves. Whether this was meant as a de-escalation strike or whatever, it was misjudged, and now will lead to further conflict.

If this is true then they are sure in perfect amount:

https://twitter.com/BabakTaghvaee/status/1233369634121928705

#BREAKING: According to a source in 3rd Tactical Fighter Base of #Iran|ian Air Force, #Russia MOD has officially requested his counterpart to use #Hamedan as a refueling point for Su-25 ground attack aircraft & Tu-22M3 heavy bombers which are going to be deployed to #Syria.


Also, Bora class corvette and Buyan missile ship also departed for Mediterranean from Sevastopol

flamming_python wrote:RIP to the dead

F these particular dead

Grind dicks with jihadists, get the virgin treatment

Too much love for discount mujahedeen on your end FP

If they dare shoot at Russia jet. Watch out. Those old 1970s Hawks are easy prey for Kh-31P Krypton anti AD missies. Cool

They deployed it in Libyan airport too , today libyan army shelled his rockets over the HAWK radars and destoryed them , putting the AD systems in the range of your enemy rocket launchers and without controlling the sky is a stupid act of war

ahmedfire wrote:

Are those Nikes?

On top of destroyed tanks

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Yet *another* tank- a T-55 captured "in the vicinity" of #Saraqib. This brings us to no less than 11 Tanks captured in a couple of days.

F these particular dead

Grind dicks with jihadists, get the virgin treatment

Too much love for discount mujahedeen on your end FP

I don't think they wish to be there. Even the soldiers send in northern Cyprus don't really like to be send there. They have no choice. Either go wgere Erdogan send them or ho to jail with the others.

Are those Nikes?

Mim 23 HAWK from the 70s. Not even comparable to sa-6 (buk ancestor).

Isos wrote:

Are those Nikes?

Mim 23 HAWK from the 70s. Not even comparable to sa-6 (buk ancestor).

I remembered the first SEAD against HAWK batteries was done by Egyptian airforces in 70s using MIG-17 against israel's AD systems .

To be honest, Russia should have armed drones like the huge Iranian Shahed 129 which wrecked ISIS in eastern Syria and Nusra in Aleppo. Too bad Russia don't. It would definitely make anti terror ops much easier. Currently the unarmed drones only lase.

some good captures including Kornet missiles

Bayrakthar no stealth slow poke prop plane bombing the crap out of Tiger force at Saraqib today. Syrians are severely lacking in AD. Even LNA wouldn't have Bayrakthar flying around in broad daylight.

https://www.reddit.com/r/syriancivilwar/comments/fauwdu/turkish_drone_strike_hits_saa_in_altalhieh/

ahmedfire wrote:

Isos wrote:

Are those Nikes?

Mim 23 HAWK from the 70s. Not even comparable to sa-6 (buk ancestor).

I remembered the first SEAD against HAWK batteries was done by Egyptian airforces in 70s using MIG-17 against israel's AD systems .

Syrian su24 can be armed with kh-25P anti radar missile and destroy them easily. No need for kh-31 like suggested in another post.

The ECM pods of su-34 should reduce their engagement range to 10km if not less. Syrian mig29 also have Talisman ECM pods now. But that's not needed since kh-25P outranges the MIM-23.

flamming_python wrote:Pretty stupid escalation, whoever did it - Russia or Syria

It's not the way things are done, with direct attacks on NATO soldiers.

Turkish troops should simply have been left to understand, that there is nothing in Idlib left for them to do

Putin or whoever are far too sure of themselves. Whether this was meant as a de-escalation strike or whatever, it was misjudged, and now will lead to further conflict.
RIP to the dead

What ridiculous logic displayed. The Turks are the ones guilty of escalating the conflict, are we forgetting how much they financed Chechen and Dagastani jihadists through the Pankisi gorge? What about Libya? Surely it's the Russian MOD's fault for why the Turks are sending troops and military support to the jihadists in Libya against everyone's wishes. What about the recent escalation of Northern Cyprus with their illegal oil exploration? Just accept that no amount of diplomacy can make a crocodile accept a vegetarian diet FFS!

If you believe the Turks they killed at least 50.000 syrian soldiers in the last week alone.

In the meantime Erdogan and his head-chopper friends lost control over 30+ villages in the south of Idlib. The military victories of the Turks are only surpassed by the victories of Germany in WWII, like Stalingrad, Kursk and so on.

The hit building remains




More higher res pictures and geo location https://twitter.com/john_marquee/status/1233439682744074240

Balyun is over towards the right hand side of this map, halfway between the red line and the top. Well positioned for an HQ, roads out in five directions. Proper Google maps link at link above.

Isos wrote:Twitter is closed in Turkey. All those video from drones are likely old video. Turkey asked for the permission to fly armed drones there yesterday and russia said no.

Yes! All videos are a "best of" the last weeks. Only hard shelling tonight occured in kurdish area north of Aleppo, but SAA is also mixed in this area with kurdish units. So maybe SAA was hit last night, but not in Idlib!!!

Hole wrote:If you believe the Turks they killed at least 50.000 syrian soldiers in the last week alone.

In the meantime Erdogan and his head-chopper friends lost control over 30+ villages in the south of Idlib. The military victories of the Turks are only surpassed by the victories of Germany in WWII, like Stalingrad, Kursk and so on.

Minimum 3 billion according to turkish sources Hahaha